Will Quantum Computing Ruin The Future of Bitcoin? (This is the answer)

Cory Klippsten, founder of Swan Bitcoin, and Ben Werkman, CIO of Swan, join us to break down the next evolution in Bitcoin investing: public companies engineered from the ground up to maximize Bitcoin exposure. This isn’t MicroStrategy 2.0—it’s something entirely new. From Swan’s vertically integrated model to the overlooked opportunities in private credit, Cory and Ben reveal how Bitcoin-native strategies are disrupting traditional finance from the inside out. In this episode, we explore why buying spot Bitcoin is just the beginning—and how Swan is building a full-stack financial institution with Bitcoin as its base layer. We unpack the hidden leverage behind Swan’s business model, the risks and rewards of taking the company public, and what it takes to navigate capital markets while staying true to Bitcoin values. Whether you’re a sovereign individual, fund manager, or curious builder, this episode unlocks the future of Bitcoin capital formation—and the asymmetric edge that Swan is betting everything on.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tim Kotzman, investor and Bitcoin strategist, joins us to unpack the explosive rise of Bitcoin treasury companies—and why this emerging asset class could reshape how corporations grow, govern, and compete in a post-dollar world. From MicroStrategy’s leveraged playbook to MetaPlanet’s media-first strategy, Tim breaks down how capital markets are being retooled around Bitcoin as pristine collateral. In this episode, we explore why simply “putting Bitcoin on the balance sheet” is no longer enough—and how a new class of public companies is engineering Bitcoin exposure with hedge-fund-like precision. We dig into the nuances of equity valuation in a Bitcoin-native environment, the hidden risks most investors overlook, and how leadership, leverage, and attention are the new trifecta of corporate value creation. Whether you’re a long-term HODLer, equity analyst, or capital allocator, this episode reveals the deeper playbook behind Bitcoin’s corporate revolution.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I get it. It's scary hearing about what quantum computers could do to Bitcoin one day if or when they actually arrive. But here's the thing. Understanding how bitcoins encryption actually works is the key to understanding how quantum can, or more importantly, can't disrupt it. And what I'm about to show you will completely flip the script on your perspective.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Adam Back, legendary cypherpunk and CEO of Blockstream, joins us to break down why Bitcoin treasury companies are emerging as one of the most disruptive forces in finance—and what this shift means for the future of capital markets. From early skepticism to full-blown corporate adoption, Adam unpacks how Bitcoin’s volatility, asymmetric upside, and institutional interest are converging to reshape how the world stores value. In this episode, we dive into why public companies are holding—and aggressively acquiring—Bitcoin, how sovereign wealth funds and pensions are finally moving off zero, and why short-term sellers are handing over BTC to long-term diamond hands. Adam also explains MicroStrategy’s unique playbook, the rise of “Bitcoin-native” corporate balance sheets, and why he believes the next phase of adoption will be deeper, more decentralized, and unstoppable. Whether you’re a retail investor or a boardroom strategist, this episode offers a masterclass in how the Bitcoin treasury revolution is unfolding.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The world's safest investment just collapsed and almost nobody saw it coming. Wall Street's most trusted investment lost trillions in value, and if you're still holding on to it, your portfolio could be next. But what caused this crash? And more importantly, what should you do now? In the next few minutes, you'll discover why the smartest investors in the world are quietly moving billions into a surprising asset, and how one simple decision right now could protect your future wealth.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Trump's 'One Big Beautiful Bill' just passed, and I'm using it to build $5 million while most people don't even know it exists. The OBBB has seven wealth-building provisions that could immediately put money back in your pocket. But here's the kicker—when you layer this with strategic investments in business, real estate, and Bitcoin the way I'm about to show you, we're talking about potential generational wealth that could hit $5 million or more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Right now, a $300 Trillion Credit Rotation is forming—and nobody sees it coming. Most investors and even Wall Street think these Bitcoin Treasury Companies are just a bubble, another creative play on Bitcoin, or maybe just a way to quickly generate cash. But… They’ve completely missed the real story—and it’s WAY bigger than anyone realizes. These companies aren’t gambling—they’re building highly targeted financial products, each acting like a straw siphoning trillions out of broken credit markets and into Bitcoin.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Jeff Walton, former reinsurance broker turned Bitcoin thought leader, breaks down why Bitcoin treasury strategy companies are exploding—and what it means for the future of finance. From riding GameStop to the top to identifying asymmetric risk in traditional markets, Jeff reveals how a background in risk management led him to bet big on Bitcoin. In this episode, we explore why Bitcoin treasury companies are outperforming, how MicroStrategy rewrote the corporate playbook, and the difference between simply holding Bitcoin versus having a full-blown Bitcoin treasury strategy. Jeff unpacks why so-called "zombie companies" are pivoting to BTC, the biggest risks and red flags in this emerging space, and why he believes the future of capital markets will be built on Bitcoin.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brian Dixon, CEO at Off the Chain Capital, shares how investors are using Buffett-style value investing to outperform Bitcoin itself—focusing on discounted assets, protocol-layer dominance, and long-term theses. In this episode, we explore why the base layer is winning, how Bitcoin and AI are converging, and why sovereign wealth funds and institutions are quietly accumulating BTC. From Mount Gox claims to Bitcoin treasury plays, Brian breaks down the biggest asymmetric opportunities in crypto today—and what they signal about the future of money, markets, and global power.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Alessandro Palombo is a global expert in citizenship strategy, residency optimization, and the intersection of Bitcoin and personal sovereignty. In this episode, we explore how high-net-worth individuals are navigating global uncertainty with a new playbook—leveraging Bitcoin and flag theory to unlock a permissionless life. We dig into how the rise of machine-driven economies, overreaching governments, and outdated governance structures are creating a new class divide: landlords vs. renters. Alessandro shares why now—especially if your net worth exceeds $1M—is the time to build your "freedom stack," diversify across jurisdictions, and secure optionality for you and your family. From Portugal’s Bitcoin-backed golden visa program to the evolution of Europe’s flat tax regimes, Alessandro breaks down actionable strategies for preserving wealth, accessing global mobility, and achieving true sovereignty in the AI age. Whether you're a Bitcoin believer, a sovereign individual in the making, or simply preparing for the future, this is a must-listen conversation.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.