To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias

Robert's keynote speech for the Japanese American National Museum on combatting authoritarianism in the modern world.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andrew and James continue their discussion of what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela. Sources: https://www.ebsco.com/research-starters/history/omar-torrijos-ousts-arias-panama Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-PolandSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Andrew and James discuss what happened in Panama in 1989 and why people are comparing these events to what is happening in Venezuela. Sources: https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/venezuelas-interior-minister-says-100-people-died-us-attack-2026-01-08/ Emperors In the Jungle: The Hidden History of the U.S. in Panama by John Lindsay-PolandSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Garrison and Mia unravel whether the DHS is posting coded nazi messages, and discuss the limits of treating anti fascism as an easter egg hunt. Original Air Date: 08.07.25 Sources: https://harpers.org/archive/1964/11/the-paranoid-style-in-american-politics/ https://files.libcom.org/files/[Mark_Fisher]_Capitalist_Realism_Is_There_no_Alte(BookZZ.org).pdf https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trumps-immigration-record-far-high-arrests-low-deportations-rcna217752 https://michiganadvance.com/2025/04/09/ice-director-envisions-amazon-like-mass-deportation-system-prime-but-with-human-beings/ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20p36e62gyo https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/mexico-refuses-us-military-flight-deporting-migrants-sources-say-2025-01-25/ https://bsky.app/profile/bishonentype.bsky.social/post/3luq3qktltc2nSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret reads you excerpts from a book explaining the ins and outs of mutual aid.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  - Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd - Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota - Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota, Pt. 2 - To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias - Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill & Rojava You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone Sources/Links: Gaza and the Board of Peace feat. Dana El Kurd UNOCHA on ceasefire violations - https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/humanitarian-situation-update-353-gaza-strip  BBC on the Yellow Line - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckgxl6zkenqo Aljazeera on the 20 point plan - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/16/us-declares-phase-two-of-gaza-ceasefire-but-what-did-phase-one-deliver  The Huffington Post on Putin’s invite - https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/donald-trump-has-invited-vladimir-putin-to-join-his-gaza-board-of-peace-kremlin-says_uk_696e0478e4b0fb912e9948f8?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1768820090  Aljazeera on Board of Peace - https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/18/trumps-board-of-peace-appears-to-seek-wider-mandate-beyond-gaza  Who is Nikolay Mladenov - https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2026/1/15/who-is-nickolay-mladenov-the-diplomat-tasked-with-disarming-gaza  Everyone vs ICE: On the Ground In Minnesota Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need Rent Support for neighbors in Central: https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis Supplies for Political Art Making: https://givebutter.com/spno Protective Gear for Legal Observers: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe Diapers and Menstrual Supplies: https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2 Abolish ICE Shirts: https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e Northstar Front Line Street Medics: https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund: Venmo: @TCSwoletariat Cashapp: $TCSwoletariat To Catch A Fascist: An Interview with Christopher Mathias Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767  The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/ Executive Disorder: Alex Pretti Shooting, DHS Funding Bill & Rojava https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&t=1222&v=Amhb8PK_an8&feature=youtu.be https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112 https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf  https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426  https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312  https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q  https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point  https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287  https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20 https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20  https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump  https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20  https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/ https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304dSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The gang discuss the killing of Alex Pretti by Border Patrol in Minneapolis, conflicting accounts of the shooting, a DHS bill in the Senate, and updates on Syria and the FED.  Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=fHjlCV6d7gVSHjiN&t=1222&v=Amhb8PK_an8&feature=youtu.be https://www.foxnews.com/video/6388288892112  https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2026/01/26/greg-bovino-agents-victims-pretti-minneapolis-shooting/88361659007/  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.107.0.pdf  https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758/gov.uscourts.mnd.229758.109.0.pdf  https://www.startribune.com/ice-raids-minnesota/601546426  https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/115968824541011312  https://bsky.app/profile/vanhollen.senate.gov/post/3mdg7b7k5nc2q  https://newrepublic.com/article/205723/dem-senator-harsh-new-takedown-trump-hits-home-breaking-point  https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-8/chapter-I/subchapter-B/part-287  https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2015826728644391063?s=20 https://x.com/MayorFrey/status/2015917704725622985?s=20 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/greg-bovino-demoted-minneapolis-border-patrol/685770/  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIM7ap12vPo https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/2016564180757725221?s=20  https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/politics/stephen-miller-alex-pretti-trump  https://x.com/cspan/status/2016557604282011748?s=20  https://prospect.org/2026/01/26/ice-trump-democrats-funding-department-homeland-security-alex-pretti-minnesota/ https://www.axios.com/2026/01/26/senate-democrats-dhs-funding-government-shutdown https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs https://www.axios.com/local/boston/2025/04/29/patriots-plane-guantanamo https://www.audacy.com/national/sports/pats-team-plane-apparently-used-for-ice-deportation-flights https://www.wbur.org/news/2025/04/29/new-england-patriots-charter-jet-guantanamo https://apnews.com/article/ihan-omar-vinegar-attack-minneapolis-385a30eaf6acc40d6ba5c6c45c09304dSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Molly interviews Christopher Mathias about his new book, To Catch a Fascist: The Fight to Expose the Radical Right. It's a rollicking tale of infiltrating nazi groups and exposing their private communications to dox them en masse.  Preorder Chris' book: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/To-Catch-a-Fascist/Christopher-Mathias/9781668034767  The article Chris mentioned about Spit & Dan: https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/death-in-the-desert-2263332/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In the second part of a two part series, Margaret and James reflect on their time in Minnesota, the incredible community response to the immigration raids, and what other communities can learn from the Twin Cities. Links: Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need Rent Support for neighbors in Central https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis Supplies for Political Art Making https://givebutter.com/spno Protective Gear for Legal Observers https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe Diapers and Menstrual Supplies  https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2 Abolish Ice Shirts https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e Northstar Front Line Street Medics https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund Venmo: @TCSwoletariat Cashapp: $TCSwoletariatSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Margaret and James reflect on their time in Minnesota, the incredible community response to the immigration raids, and what other communities can learn from the Twin Cities. Links: Rent Support for neighbors in Phillips https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-phillips-families-in-urgent-need Rent Support for neighbors in Central https://www.gofundme.com/f/critical-rent-assistance-for-central-neighborhood-families Rent Support for neighbors in Powderhorn https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-powderhorn-families-in-crisis Supplies for Political Art Making https://givebutter.com/spno Protective Gear for Legal Observers https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-equip-twin-cities-legal-observers-with-ppe Diapers and Menstrual Supplies  https://secure.everyaction.com/jLLKnfwWk0qdptMbYLoyPQ2 Abolish Ice Shirts https://www.eaglescreenprint.com/printshop/p/defend-612-abolish-ic3-wnj6e Northstar Front Line Street Medics https://www.paypal.com/biz/profile/northstarhealth Twin Cities Swoletariat Bail Fund Venmo: @TCSwoletariat Cashapp: $TCSwoletariatSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.