You Are the CEO of Your Health: Rethinking the Cancer Journey with Elina Fuhrman

What if a cancer diagnosis that feels like the end of your world could actually become the beginning of a completely new and empowering relationship with your body, your life, and yourself? In this episode of HEAL with Kelly, I sit down with Elina Fuhrman — Cancer Healing Strategist, epigenetics expert, therapeutic chef, bestselling author of Soupelina’s Soup Cleanse, and founder of the Healing Journey Method and the Fuhrman Protocol. After discovering a lump just before her 40th birthday and receiving an aggressive breast cancer diagnosis, Elina found herself overwhelmed by fear, conflicting information, and treatment decisions that felt impossibly urgent. So she turned to the skill that had shaped her former career as an Emmy-nominated CNN journalist: she started asking questions. Relentlessly and fervently — like her life depended on it. And those questions took her places she never expected. We explore what it means to become an active participant in your health journey rather than simply handing over your power, why Elina believes there are important parts of the cancer conversation we’re still missing, and how her search for answers ultimately became about far more than treating a diagnosis. We also talk about the connection between nourishment and healing, shedding old identities and emotional patterns, intuition, and what can happen when life forces us to finally listen to the parts of ourselves we may have ignored for years. Elina shares how her own search for a more nourishing way to eat ultimately led her into the kitchen, where her exploration of herbs, plants, and therapeutic soups became another unexpected chapter of her healing journey. Elina’s story challenges some deeply held ideas about illness, healing, and even what it means to “fight” cancer. Whether you’re navigating a diagnosis, supporting someone you love, or simply want to feel more empowered in your own health, this conversation is an invitation to ask different questions — and perhaps see healing through an entirely new (and more hopeful) lens. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🎙️ [2:39] Her World Went Into Freefall the Moment They Said Cancer 💊 [4:05] She Went Through Five Oncologists Before Making Any Decision 🧬 [6:27] The Tumor Is Not the Cancer — Why Everyone Gets This Wrong ⏳ [25:00] You Have More Time Than They Tell You After a Diagnosis 💔 [30:37] Therapy Cracked Her Open — and She Heard Herself Say It Was Her Marriage ✈️ [10:24] Escaped the Soviet Union at 20 With One Tiny Suitcase 🧘 [35:29] A Receptionist Said "Have You Tried Meditation?" — It Changed Everything 🌿 [39:53] Ayurveda in India, Shamans in Brazil and Her Whole World Expanding 🍲 [58:33] How She Started Making Therapeutic Soups From Chinese Medicine Herbs 💡 [1:00:40] She Married Ayurveda, Chinese Medicine and Naturopathy Into One Protocol 🌱 [44:12] Her Three Month Healing Journey Protocol and Why Cells Need That Long ❤️ [1:04:47] There Is No Diagnosis That Cannot Be Reversed — She Truly Believes It LINKS: Elina Fuhrman’s website: https://www.soupelina.com/ Elina on Instagram @elinafuhrman Soupelina’s Soup Cleanse Cookbook: https://amzn.to/4c6Wa35 SPONSOR: TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to ⁠https://⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly⁠ to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Could some of the symptoms you’ve learned to live with — brain fog, fatigue, headaches, hormonal changes, or simply not feeling like yourself — have less to do with what’s happening inside your body and more to do with the environment you’re living in? In this episode of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I sit down with Ariana Thacker, chemical engineer and founder and CEO of MoldCo, whose own unexpected health crisis led her to investigate one of the most overlooked environmental factors affecting our health: mold exposure. We talk about why mold-related illness can be so difficult to recognize, why conventional testing often completely misses it, and the surprising reason two people living in the exact same home can have completely different experiences. Ariana also challenges some of the biggest assumptions we have about where mold exists — including why newer homes aren’t necessarily in the clear. We explore the emerging connections researchers are seeing between our environments and everything from brain and immune health to hormones, metabolism, and chronic illness. And Ariana shares what she wishes she had known before getting sick, how to begin thinking differently about the health of your home, and why mold may only be one piece of a much bigger environmental conversation.   If you’ve ever had symptoms you couldn’t quite explain, wondered whether your home could be affecting how you feel, or simply want to know what may be hiding in the places you spend the most time, this conversation will change the way you look at your environment — and your health. Exclusive HEAL Offer: Ready to take a closer look at your health and home? Use code HEAL15 to save 15% off MoldCo’s CIRS Panel, Complete Panel, and Home Test. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🏠 [2:01] 50 Million Americans Impacted by Mold 🧬 [2:33] The Gene That Makes Mold Exposure Devastating 🤒 [4:23] From Crushing It at Work to Slurring Her Words 🔍 [7:31] Her Air Test Showed 34,000 Spores Per Meter 💊 [10:34] First Month on a Binder and Her Brain Came Back 🧪 [12:17] The HLA Test That Shows How Vulnerable You Are 🚪 [13:47] 75% of People Get Better Just by Leaving 🏘️ [14:09] Your Rights When a Landlord Won't Fix the Problem 🔧 [37:08] How to Find a Mold Inspector You Can Actually Trust 🦠 [39:48] CIRS Explained and Why Medicine Misses It Completely 🧫 [40:00] Actinobacteria — The Hidden Threat Beyond Mold 🧴 [46:09] Binders as a Longevity Hack Even If You're Not Sick LINKS MoldCo website: https://www.moldco.com/ Free Questionnaire: https://access.moldco.com/signs MoldCo on Instagram @themoldcompany SPONSORS: JUST THRIVE: When you start a 90-day Just Thrive probiotic gummy subscription, you'll get a free 30-day probiotic gummy. That’s 4 months worth to get started on your health journey. Visit ⁠⁠https://justthrivehealth.com/heal⁠⁠ to claim your free probiotic gummy with your first 90-day probiotic subscription, or enjoy 20% off anything sitewide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if Alzheimer’s doesn’t begin when you start forgetting names or struggling with memory but decades earlier, when subtle changes are happening in your metabolism, inflammation, and brain?   With Alzheimer’s in my own family, this conversation with Dr. David Perlmutter felt especially personal. Dr. Perlmutter is a board-certified neurologist, six-time New York Times bestselling author, and one of the leading voices challenging how we think about brain health and cognitive decline. His new book, Brain Defenders, explores emerging research around microglia — the immune cells of the brain — and why they may hold an important key to protecting our brains as we age.   We dive into why Dr. Perlmutter believes we need to start thinking about Alzheimer’s prevention in our 30s and 40s, the surprising connection between metabolic health and the brain, and how our everyday choices may influence whether our brain’s immune cells protect us or work against us. We also get into the role of ultra-processed foods, blood sugar and insulin, the gut microbiome, environmental toxins, sleep, inflammation, mitochondria, vitamin D, and some of the biomarkers Dr. Perlmutter believes are worth knowing. And for women, we explore what happens to the brain during menopause, the latest conversation around estrogen and hormone replacement therapy, and why women face a greater risk of Alzheimer’s.   Dr. Perlmutter also shares fascinating new research that could change how we think about Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, MS, traumatic brain injury, and other neurological conditions — including why the future of brain health may look very different from the traditional “wait for symptoms, then treat” approach. This episode left me feeling incredibly hopeful about how much influence we may actually have over the future of our brains. If you’ve ever worried about your memory, your family history, or simply want to stay sharp and resilient as you age, this is a conversation you don’t want to miss. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🧠 [1:50] Only 6.8% of Americans Are Metabolically Healthy — and Your Brain Pays the Price 🍟 [7:31] One Handful of Chips a Day Raises Your Alzheimer's Risk by 13% 💊 [9:18] The Alzheimer's Drugs the FDA Approved That Don't Work — and Kill 🦠 [12:47] You're Eating for Billions — How Your Gut Microbiome Drives Brain Health 🌱 [30:01] 70% of Alzheimer's Patients Stopped Declining With Just Diet and Exercise 🧬 [31:16] One Brain Scan That Shows If Your Microglia Have Turned Against You 💡 [35:51] Flashing Light 40 Times Per Second — MIT's Alzheimer's Breakthrough 😴 [46:32] Bad Sleep Leaves Toxic Proteins in Your Brain Overnight ☀️ [47:57] Why Vitamin D Deficiency Is a Massive Alzheimer's Risk Factor 📊 [50:44] The Blood Test That Predicts Alzheimer's Before Symptoms Appear 🩸 [52:32] Get a Fasting Insulin Test — Not Just a Blood Sugar Test 🦠 [55:41] Long Covid Shifted Microglia in 12% of the Planet — Here's What Helps   LINKS Dr. David Perlmutter’s website:https://drperlmutter.com/ Dr. David Perlmutter on Instagram @davidperlmutter Brain Defenders: Harness the Power of Your Immune Cells to Protect Your Brain for Life book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4glvlcH TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to https://⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Do you struggle to get good sleep? The reason you’re exhausted, waking up at 3 a.m., or struggling to feel like yourself might surprise you. And likely has to do with sneaky and quietly disruptive sleep habits. In this episode of the HEAL with Kelly Podcast, I sit down with world renowned sleep expert Dr. Michael Breus, PhD, a double board-certified Clinical Psychologist and Clinical Sleep Specialist known as The Sleep Doctor. After nearly 25 years in the field, he has a refreshingly simple message: we may be making wellness — and sleep — far more complicated than it needs to be. There is a ton of information jam packed in this episode. We explore the fascinating science of our individual sleep chronotypes (I’m a Lion, what are you?!) and how understanding your body’s natural rhythm could change the way you approach not only sleep, but your entire day. Dr. Breus shares some surprisingly simple sleep tips that challenge many of the things we’ve been taught about getting a good night’s rest. We tackle some of the biggest questions around sleep — from those frustrating middle-of-the-night wake-ups, to menopause, sleep apnea, melatonin, sleep trackers, caffeine, alcohol, and the everyday habits that may be affecting us more than we realize. And we go beyond sleep itself, exploring the fascinating world of dreams, the connection between sleep and emotional healing, and why the timing of everything from your morning routine to intimacy may matter more than you think. This conversation made me look at sleep in an entirely new way. Rather than chasing the perfect nighttime routine, what if better sleep actually begins with what you do the moment you wake up? If you’re ready to understand your sleep differently and discover simple ways to feel more rested and energized, this episode is for you. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : ⏰ [0:30] Wake Up at the Same Time Every Day — Here's the Biology 🦁 [2:40] Lions, Bears, Wolves and Dolphins — What's Your Chronotype? 🐬 [9:27] The Fourth Chronotype Nobody Talks About 🔥 [11:52] The Best Time to Have Sex Based on Your Hormones ☕ [14:09] Wait 90 Minutes Before Your First Coffee 🌡️ [22:49] Why You Wake Up at 3am — and the Exact Fix 😮 [27:53] The Sleep Doctor Has Sleep Apnea and Didn't Know It 👩 [32:42] How Women's Sleep Apnea Gets Misdiagnosed as Depression 🛏️ [34:31] The Truth About Toxic Mattresses 💭 [42:46] Dreams Are Emotional Metabolism — What's Really Happening 🦷 [45:14] Why Everyone on Earth Has the Teeth Falling Out Dream 🧠 [49:31] How to Remember Your Dreams — and When Not To ✨ [50:20] Lucid Dreaming for PTSD and Trauma Healing 💊 [1:00:12] Sleep Is a Quality Game — Not a Quantity Game ⚠️ [1:01:00] Why Melatonin Is More Dangerous Than You Think 🧬 [1:05:18] His Exact Supplement Stack for Better Sleep 😔 [1:08:03] A Few Bad Nights of Sleep Can Make You Believe Dark Thoughts LINKS Sleep Doctor’s website: https://sleepdoctor.com/heal Sleep Doctor on Instagram @thesleepdoctor Dr. Michael Breus on Instagram @drmichaelbreus SPONSORS: JUST THRIVE: When you start a 90-day Just Thrive probiotic gummy subscription, you'll get a free 30-day probiotic gummy. That’s 4 months worth to get started on your health journey. Visit ⁠https://justthrivehealth.com/heal⁠ to claim your free probiotic gummy with your first 90-day probiotic subscription. Enjoy 20% off anything sitewide. COWBOY COLOSTRUM: For a limited time, get up to 25% off your entire order. Go to https://cowboycolostrum.com/kellyg and use code KELLYG at checkout for 25% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Grief has a script that we’ve been handed: five stages, one after another, until time supposedly heals you. But what if that was never the full story? There isn't one right way to grieve, and your path might look different. In this episode, I sit down with Kate Doerge, certified grief coach, speaker, and author of Reimagining Grief, who has walked through more loss in one lifetime than most people can grasp. She lost her father unexpectedly to heart failure, then her mother to an accident, and then, most heart-breakingly, her 16-year-old daughter Penny. Out of this deep experience of loss, she's built a completely new way of moving through grief — one built on choice instead of waiting for it to pass.  We talk about what it actually means to feel grief in your body, the signs from her loved ones Kate can't explain away, and the choice that turned her family's indescribable loss into a way of helping thousands of others heal through loss. This conversation made me think differently about grief, healing, and what it really means to honor the people we love. Whether you're grieving today or simply want to better support someone who is, I hope this episode reminds you that healing doesn't mean leaving your loved one behind, it means learning to carry their love with you as you keep on living. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ :👼 [4:36] Penny's Diagnosis at Four Months Old — One in 300,000🌟 [8:38] Seven Brain Surgeries and She Never Let It Define Her🕯️ [10:19] In That Last Week They Filled the House With Music, Love and Light💔 [13:55] She Lost Her Father, Then Her Mother, Then the Unimaginable🌈 [16:03] Her Dad's Headstone Was a Rock From His Favorite Beach🏃 [30:13] Grief Lives in Your Body — If You Don't Move It, It Gets Stuck🌻 [33:53] The Day After Penny's Celebration They Launched Pennies Flight Foundation✨ [37:12] It's Not Your Lifespan That Matters — It's Your Wingspan📖 [41:29] The Five Stages of Grief Were Written in the 1960s — It's Time for an Update🙏 [44:00] Stop Saying I'm Sorry — Say This Instead💡 [46:20] Post Traumatic Growth Instead of Post Traumatic Stress🪙 [54:50] Running Through Dallas Thinking of the Book — Then a License Plate Said Faith Over Fear LINKS Kate Doerge website: https://www.katedoerge.com/ Kate on Instagram @doergek Reimagining Grief book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4wNDywY SPONSORS RE-LYTE: Go to https://redmond.life/kelly and use code KELLY to get 15% off your first order. TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to ⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Could some of the biggest health challenges our kids are facing today — anxiety, emotional meltdowns, trouble focusing, allergies, even immune issues — are actually rooted in the gut? In this episode, I sit down with Tina Anderson, founder of Just Thrive, for a conversation about why the microbiome may be one of the most overlooked foundations of lifelong health. After leaving successful careers in the pharmaceutical industry, Tina and her husband set out to understand the root causes of chronic disease, and what they discovered completely changed the direction of their lives.  We explore the powerful connection between the gut and the brain, why so many children are struggling with gut imbalances today, and how everyday factors like antibiotics, ultra-processed foods, environmental toxins, and chronic stress may be impacting our health in ways most of us never realized. Tina also breaks down common myths about probiotics, explains what makes spore-based probiotics different, and offers a simple explanation of concepts like leaky gut and microbial diversity. I found this conversation to be extremely empowering — especially as I think about how to best support my daughter’s health. It's not about striving for perfection, which can be flat out exhausting. It's about understanding how small, intentional choices can help create a stronger foundation for us and our children. Just Thrive is offering my listeners something special:When you start a 90-day Just Thrive probiotic gummy subscription, you'll get a free 30-day probiotic gummy. That’s 4 months worth to get started on your health journey. Visit https://justthrivehealth.com/heal to claim your free probiotic gummy with your first 90-day probiotic subscription. Enjoy 20% off anything sitewide. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 💊 [0:00] She Left Pharma After Watching It Make People Sicker — Not Better 🧠 [4:41] 90% of Your Serotonin Is Made in Your Gut — Not Your Brain 👶 [6:31] The Kids Allergy and ADHD Epidemic Is Really a Gut Health Crisis 🌾 [7:38] Glyphosate, Antibiotics and Ultra Processed Food Are Destroying the Gut 💡 [10:06] A Wayne Dyer Book Woke Them Up — Then Came the Call That Changed Everything 💸 [11:31] They Took Their Life Savings and Licensed Strains From a London University 🥛 [14:49] Why Refrigerated Probiotics Are Dead Before They Even Reach Your Gut 🦠 [20:21] You Are Ten Times More Bacterial Cells Than Human Cells 👦 [30:30] An Autistic Boy's Mood, Energy and Behavior Shifted on the Spore Probiotic 🧬 [44:38] The New Strain Coming That Targets Metabolic Health and Insulin 🧘 [47:37] The Gut Brain Probiotic That Supports Brainwave Activity and Inflammation 💛 [49:37] 14 Years In — and the Stories Still Give Her Goosebumps Every Single Day LINKS Just Thrive website: https://justthrivehealth.com/heal Just Thrive on Instagram @justthrivehealth Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I sat down with a woman who walked away from one of the most public marriages in music history — and I wanted to know what it actually takes to choose yourself when the whole world admires your partner. Deborah Santana spent over thirty years building a life, a business, and a family inside a marriage to one of the most famous musicians of our time, Carlos Santana. From the outside, it looked like the dream. But somewhere along the way, she started asking herself the question so many of us avoid: Am I actually living my purpose, or just managing everyone else's?  Deborah is an author, activist, philanthropist, filmmaker, and longtime advocate for equity and empowerment. Her new memoir, Loving the Fire, traces a journey of choosing truth over appearances, freedom over fear, and her own voice over quiet acceptance of what no longer serves her. In this conversation, we get into what it really takes to rebuild your identity after fame, motherhood, and decades of putting yourself last — the moment that finally gave her permission to leave, what she's learned about love the second time around, and why she now believes the world has lost something essential by turning away from matriarchal wisdom. We also talk about raising kids who feel truly seen and the intuitive flashes she trusts more than almost anything else in her life.  Deborah is 75 and more radiant than ever. She is living proof that reinvention can happen at any age. If you feel like you’ve abandoned yourself or your dreams to keep others happy, this one is for you. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 💍 [3:18] Married at 22 to One of the Most Famous Musicians in the World 💼 [3:46] She Was CEO of Carlos Santana's Business for 13 Years 💔 [6:27] Their Values Diverged — and What Happens on the Road Stayed on the Road 🌹 [8:39] Her Mother Died — and Said With Her Foot on Her Back: Go ✍️ [11:31] She Worked So Hard on Herself She Worked Her Way Out of the Marriage 🌍 [17:18] What Matriarchal Societies Knew That We've Forgotten 👩 [20:32] Her Mother Married Across Racial Lines When It Was Dangerous to Do So 💌 [24:26] When She Left She Wrote Each Child a Letter So They'd Always Have It 🌿 [28:07] The Four Seeds She Lives By — Community, Creativity, Care and Contemplation 🙏 [30:47] How to Hold Privilege and Trauma at the Same Time 👂 [32:28] Being an Ally Means Listening — Not Fixing ✨ [46:31] How Keeping Yourself Pure Lets the Intuitive Flashes Come In LINKS Deborah’s website: https://deborahsantana.com/ Deborah on Instagram @dssantana Loving the Fire: Choosing Me, Finding Freedom on Amazon: https://amzn.to/4bhuyYF SPONSORS: QUALIA:  Go to qualialife.com/HEAL for 50% off. As a special bonus, use code HEAL for an additional 15% off your order.  TIMELINE: Mitopure now starts at just $79. Go to ⁠timeline.com/healwithkelly to get 20% off Mitopure supplements and Skincare with code HEALwithKelly. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Have you ever wondered how some people find the strength to keep going when life keeps knocking them down? In this conversation, I sit down with bestselling author and creator of the global phenomenon The Miracle Morning, Hal Elrod, to explore what it really means to heal, persevere, and choose hope in the face of overwhelming adversity. Millions know Hal for transforming their mornings — but fewer know the extraordinary journey that led him there. From a car accident that left him clinically dead for six minutes and being told he'd never walk again, to a rare cancer diagnosis with only a 20-30% survival rate, Hal has been forced to confront life's darkest moments over and over, and has found his way back every single time. What struck me most wasn't just his resilience — it was his perspective. We get into the five-minute rule, the difference between optimism and delusion, why he believes resistance — not circumstance — is the real source of emotional pain, the true origin of the Miracle Morning and the SAVERS practice, his approach to affirmations and visualization (and why most people get both wrong), the holistic modalities he pursued alongside conventional treatment, and what no one warns you about when medication starts changing who you are. If you've ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or needed a reminder that difficult seasons don't last forever — this one's for you. Content Advisory: If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide or is in emotional distress, please reach out to a trusted loved one or a qualified mental health professional. If you're in the U.S. or Canada, you can call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. If you are elsewhere, please contact your local crisis services. You are not alone. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🚗 [6:40] Hit Head On at 70mph — Then Died for Six Minutes 🧠 [10:21] The Five Minute Rule That Changed Everything 🏥 [12:37] Doctors Said Never Walk Again — He Took His First Step Three Weeks Later 💸 [13:47] Lost Half His Income in 2008 and Had a Life Changing Epiphany ☀️ [18:58] How the Miracle Morning Was Born 🎗️ [27:28] Stage Four Cancer and a 20 to 30% Survival Rate 💪 [30:19] Why He Told His Wife There Was a 100% Chance He Would Survive 📖 [32:20] The SAVERS System Explained ✍️ [34:45] How to Write Affirmations Your Brain Actually Believes 👁️ [40:23] The Right Way to Visualize — Mental Rehearsal Over Vision Boards 🧠 [46:52] How to Wake Up With Energy No Matter How Little Sleep You Got 🧪 [51:14] Chemo Broke His Brain and the Suicidal Depression That Followed 💡 [1:05:10] A Grieving Father Did the Miracle Morning and Chose Not to Be Depressed Anymore LINKS Miracle Morning website: https://miraclemorning.com/ Miracle Morning book in Amazon: https://amzn.to/4b1y7Sq Hal Elrod on Instagram @hal_elrod SPONSORS RE-LYTE: Go to https://redmond.life/kelly and use code KELLY to get 15% off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You all know that we are living in a toxic soup of seen and unseen chemicals. They're in our water, our food, our air, our furniture, and our clothing — everywhere we turn. It can feel overwhelming. But what if detoxification simply became a natural part of how we live, not something we need to fear or stress about? In this episode, I sit down with my good friend, vitality expert and detox architect Natalie Lefevre, for a fascinating conversation about what it really means to support the body's ability to heal. Like many of the guests I love bringing to you, Natalie's passion comes from her own healing journey. After being misdiagnosed, experiencing serious health challenges, and losing someone she loves, she was propelled into a lifelong search for answers that took her far beyond conventional medicine and around the world in pursuit of innovative healing modalities. Natalie works with advanced diagnostics and blood filtration technologies to uncover what conventional approaches often miss. But what I love most about her perspective is that she doesn't stop at the physical body. We explore the emotional and nervous system patterns that can silently keep us stuck, even when we're eating well, exercising, and doing all the "right" things. Together, we discuss environmental toxins, heavy metals, microplastics, inflammation, nervous system regulation, grief, emotional healing, subconscious programming, and the powerful connection between body, mind, and spirit. Natalie's philosophy is simple: detox isn't a protocol — it's a way of life. And true vitality becomes possible when we address all of who we are — the physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual aspects of healing. Whether you're just beginning your wellness journey or looking to go deeper into root-cause healing, this conversation will leave you thinking differently about what it means to detox, heal, and reclaim your health. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 🌍 [0:00] Born in the Seychelles, Overthrew the Government and Landed in Texas ☠️ [3:29] Mercury Poisoning From Eating Salmon — The Start of Her Journey 🧠 [8:26] Emotional Toxins Are Real and Every Organ Holds a Different One 🪦 [9:29] Her Dad Died of Stage Four Cancer — and She Let Herself Scream It Out 💊 [14:16] Her Ibogaine Journey and Feeling Pure Oneness 🧪 [28:32] The Two Labs She Starts Every Client With 🩸 [31:39] The Full Body Blood Cleanse That Changed Her Life ✈️ [33:25] Her Lotion Set Off the Bomb Alarm at the Airport 🌡️ [43:05] Why Fever Is a Healing Mechanism — Not the Enemy ⚡ [35:53] Ozone, Oxygenation and What to Do for Long Covid 🌱 [41:20] We Live in a Red Zone Now — Detox Has to Be a Lifestyle 💛 [57:45] Start Somewhere — and Give Yourself Grace Disclaimer: The information shared in this episode is for educational purposes only and is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. Always consult with a qualified healthcare professional before making changes to your health, diet, supplements, medications, or treatment plan. LINKS Natalie Lefevre website: https://natalielefevre.com/ Natalie on Instagram @island_natalie Legacy Lyfe on Instagram @legacylyfe_ SPONSORS COWBOY COLOSTRUM: For a limited time, get up to 25% off your entire order. Go to cowboycolostrum.com/kellyg and use code KELLYG at checkout for 25% off. QUALIA: Go to qualialife.com/HEAL for 50% off. As a special bonus, use code HEAL for an additional 15% off your order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I truly feel that all healing is spiritual healing. And this is something Dr. Amy Robbins emphasizes it in this eye opening conversation. Amy is a clinical psychologist, spiritual teacher, psychic medium, and host of the podcast Life, Death, and the Space Between. She has spent 20 years quietly doing something quite radical — building a framework that refuses to separate what happens in the therapy room from what's happening in your soul. She calls it Spiritually Informed Therapy, and I really feel like it’s the missing piece in the mental health conversation. We get into the spiritual experiences therapists are increasingly hearing from their patients behind closed doors — but are often hesitant to address because it’s not acknowledged in the western psychology space. We talk about everything from felt presences of spirits, intuitive knowing, grief, communications from other realms, awakenings, and why traditional mental health spaces don't know how to hold them. Amy shares why she believes spirituality can no longer be treated as separate from mental health, and how she's training clinicians to ethically bring these conversations into their work. We also go deep on alignment, trauma, anxiety, nervous system regulation, breathwork, and the hidden cost of ignoring your intuition. And why chronic stress doesn't just exhaust you, it cuts you off from the quiet inner voice that's trying to guide you.  This one is part therapy session, part spiritual awakening, part reminder that every piece of being human, the joy, the heartbreak, the mystery, is sacred. Key Moments You'll Love ✨ : 👻 [2:49] Her Aunt Died on the Table — Then Visited Her in a Dream 📍 [5:52] The Message She Got That Her Uncle Confirmed Word for Word 🌀 [7:38] When Past Life Hits Started Coming Through With Patients 💍 [11:49] She Saw a Ring in a Reading — and It Materialized Five Minutes Later 🧠 [14:42] Only 5% of Therapists Are Trained in Spirituality 🚿 [17:11] The Curriculum Downloaded in the Shower — All Seven Modules at Once 🎵 [21:29] His Late Wife's Wedding Song Played on Their Anniversary 🔒 [24:49] Why Trauma Makes You Pick Up Everyone Else's Energy 🛑 [30:20] A Voice Said Don't Go — a Car Flew Through the Red Light 🧬 [33:42] When You Ignore Your Soul's Alignment Disease Follows ⚗️ [46:44] Her Aunt Came Through in a Psychedelic Journey and Said Thank You 🌍 [54:18] Are We in a Simulation — and Does It Even Matter?  LINKS Dr. Amy Robbins website: https://www.dramyrobbins.com/ Dr. Amy Robbins on Instagram @dramyrobbins Dr. Amy Robbins Podcast: Life, Death and the Space Between SPONSORS RE-LYTE: Go to https://redmond.life/kelly and use code KELLY to get 15% off your first order. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices