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From Pulp to Performance: The Science of Paper with Dr. Alexey Vishtal

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In this episode of the Good Garbage Podcast, host Ved Krishna sits down with Dr. Alexey Vishtal, a scientist and industry expert in pulp, paper, and sustainable packaging, to explore thematerial reality behind sustainability.

From growing up in Russia to building his career in Finland, Alexey shares the journey that led him into material science — including a PhD focused on the stretchability of paper and years working inside a global corporation like Nestlé. Along the way, he gained rare insight into how sustainability actually moves (or stalls) inside large systems.

This conversation goes beyond surface-level sustainability narratives and into the physics, constraints, and trade-offs that define packaging today. From water vapor barriers to economic viability, Alexey explains why materials — not intentions — ultimately decide what works.


Together, Ved and Alexey discuss:

Why paper performance is more complex than it seems

What stretchability, barriers, and material limits really mean

How regulation and consumer demand shape sustainability efforts

What working inside Nestlé revealed about innovation at scale

How nature offers clues for better material design

Why collaboration is essential for the future of sustainable packaging


The episode closes with a reflection on good garbage — and what it would take to design materials that truly belong in natural and industrial systems.

🎙️ Good Garbage features conversations with scientists, founders, and builders working to leave the planet cleaner — while asking one essential question: What is #GoodGarbage?


📌 Chapters 

00:00 Introduction to Dr. Alexey Vishtal

03:04 From Russia to Finland: early influences

05:46 Discovering pulp & paper

09:00 The science of paper stretchability

12:10 Inside Nestlé: sustainability at scale

17:56 Regulation, consumers & real change

21:11 India, culture, and perspectives

29:52 Innovation in sustainable packaging

50:06 Why water vapor barriers are so hard

54:13 Learning from nature

01:01:20 The future of sustainable materials

01:24:19 Vision for the future of packaging


Producer: Adriana Sánchez Uebelhoer

Video Producer: Sargam Krishna

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