The Connection Between Mental and Physical Health: Darin Olien on Depression, Nutrition, and Recovery

In this inspiring episode of Giving Voice to Depression, wellness expert and author Darin Olien — co-host of Netflix’s Down to Earth with Zac Efron — opens up about his personal experiences with depression and shares how physical and mental health are deeply connected.Olien, known for his best-selling books SuperLife and Fatal Conveniences, discusses how diet, hydration, sleep, trauma, and emotional awareness play crucial roles in improving mental health. He shares candid reflections on grief, loss, and rebuilding his life after his Malibu home burned down — revealing how embracing vulnerability and self-compassion became essential parts of his healing journey.Together with hosts Terry McGuire and Dr. Anita Sanz, Darin explores how we can take small, realistic steps to strengthen mental resilience, nurture our bodies, and reclaim hope.Whether you’re struggling with depression, supporting a loved one, or simply looking for practical ways to take better care of your mind and body, this conversation offers real-world tools and the reminder that you don’t have to walk this road alone.💬 Primary Topics CoveredThe powerful link between physical and mental healthPersonal experiences with depression and lossThe role of nutrition, hydration, and sleep in mood regulationUnderstanding trauma, grief, and emotional healingPractical wellness tools for depression and anxietyHow to recognize when to seek professional helpThe value of community, empathy, and therapyWhy it takes courage to feel and process emotionsBuilding resilience and redefining hope after major life changes⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Welcome and episode overview01:20 – Meet Darin Olien: Author, wellness expert, and mental health advocate03:38 – Darin shares his family’s experience with depression05:42 – “When your body is depressed, your mind follows”: the biology of depression06:12 – Losing everything in the California wildfires — grief and renewal07:35 – The courage it takes to process pain and let go08:41 – How ultra-processed foods affect mood and mental clarity09:31 – Trauma, stress, and their long-term impact on mental health11:13 – Why community, therapy, and medication all matter12:27 – The importance of radical self-honesty and emotional safety13:17 – The power of empathy and active listening13:50 – Breaking stigma: why therapy isn’t weakness, it’s wisdom15:19 – Self-forgiveness and letting go of pain that isn’t yours16:36 – Understanding control: sleep, nutrition, and body rhythms18:07 – How diet and hydration influence mental health19:49 – “Get help. This is your life.” — Darin’s call to action20:54 – Permission to dream: finding purpose after depression22:00 – Dr. Sanz on what you can control — nutrition, sleep, activity, stress 24:47 – How genetics account for 20% — and your choices for 80% — of outcomes 25:51 – Closing reflections: hope, control, and compassionExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

In part two of his conversation with Giving Voice to Depression, musician, author, and activist Andre Henry continues sharing how creativity, self-compassion, and community have helped him survive depression and suicidal thoughts.Following his song “Make It to Tomorrow”, Andre walks listeners through the tools that keep him grounded — self-hugs, breathing exercises, and reframing shame into self-acceptance. He explains how therapy helped him build a “safety plan” that brings him back from despair to agency.Hosts Terry McGuire and Carly McCollow join him to discuss the power of community, how to show yourself the same compassion you’d show others, and the importance of recognizing that needing help doesn’t mean you’re broken — it means something in you needs attention.If you’ve ever felt stuck in darkness or hopelessness, this episode offers the real-world reminders and tools that can help you make it to tomorrow, too.💬 Primary Topics CoveredHow music helps process depression and emotional painAndre Henry’s “safety plan” for surviving suicidal thoughtsUsing self-hugs and breathing techniques to manage shameTransforming hopelessness into small acts of self-careWhy feeling suicidal doesn’t mean you’re broken — it means something needs attentionReframing depression as a sign of unmet needs, not personal failureThe role of community and therapy in mental health recoveryUsing creativity as emotional resilienceWhat it means to believe you can “make it to tomorrow”⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Giving Voice to Depression continues the conversation with Andre Henry01:12 – Revisiting “Make It to Tomorrow” and the meaning behind the song02:31 – How music helps Andre process depression and connect with others03:32 – The “safety plan” built into the second verse — sunlight, movement, connection04:42 – How therapy and body awareness helped him reclaim control05:15 – Self-hugs and the science of self-compassion06:22 – The Rick Hanson exercise: turning compassion inward07:12 – “I’m not afraid to say I’m not okay”: Andre’s emotional honesty08:38 – Why depression is a logical response to pain, not a personal failure09:10 – Remembering resilience: “You’ve outlived every bad day so far.”10:28 – How self-love changes the way you face external challenges11:13 – Why feeling suicidal doesn’t mean you’re broken — it means something needs care12:20 – “I didn’t see this beauty coming, but here we are.”13:27 – Carly and Terry reflect: Depression doesn’t mean brokenness — it signals a need for care14:32 – Full song performance: Make It to Tomorrow 17:21 – Closing message: Depression is too dark a road to walk aloneExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

When everything feels unbearable, how do you keep going? In this deeply moving conversation, musician and author Andre Henry shares how writing his song “Make It To Tomorrow” helped him survive one of his darkest moments.Growing up in the Black community, Andre faced the silence and stigma surrounding mental health. Through his art, he began to name his pain — transforming suicidal thoughts into words and melodies that resonated with thousands of listeners.In this episode, Andre opens up about his lifelong relationship with depression, the systemic and cultural pressures that intensified his struggles, and the powerful tools that help him fight for another day. He and hosts Terry McGuire and Carly McCollow explore what it means to sit with hard emotions, to normalize mental health conversations, and to turn despair into creative expression.If you’ve ever felt like you couldn’t make it to tomorrow, this story reminds you that you’re not alone — and that hope, healing, and connection are still possible.💬 Primary Topics CoveredDepression, suicidal ideation, and survival through creativityHow music can be a form of therapy and emotional releaseThe Black community and mental health stigmaChildhood melancholy and early signs of depressionThe emotional and social weight of racial injusticeWhy some people who want to die don’t actually want death — they want pain to stopUnderstanding triggers, rumination, and hopelessnessUsing safety plans and “mental health toolkits” in crisis momentsRecognizing depression as a reasonable response to a painful worldThe importance of honest conversations about suicide prevention⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Giving Voice to Depression and why real conversations matter01:25 – Meet Andre Henry, musician, author, and survivor03:12 – Early signs of depression and “melancholy” as a child04:34 – Stigma and silence around mental health in immigrant and Black communities05:58 – What inspired “Make It To Tomorrow” and how it became a lifeline07:36 – The moment Andre wrote the song in crisis08:13 – The emotional weight of racism and trauma09:41 – Understanding the difference between wanting to die and wanting pain to stop12:08 – Managing triggers and internal narratives13:12 – Using music, exercise, and connection as survival tools14:46 – Preview of part two: self-hugging, safety plans, and hope16:22 – Reflections on childhood emotions and family dynamics17:54 – Depression as a response to a painful world18:19 – How Andre reframes his story through art and empathy19:02 – Closing: You’re not alone — depression is a dark road, but not one to walk aloneExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

A new year often brings the pressure to reinvent ourselves — to lose weight, quit bad habits, or be more productive. But what if this year, your most important resolution was simply to take better care of your mental health?In this insightful Giving Voice to Depression episode, psychologist and author Dr. Margaret Rutherford joins Terry McGuire and Bridget to talk about setting mental health resolutions that actually help — ones rooted in self-compassion instead of shame.Dr. Rutherford explains why traditional resolutions often fail and how to replace them with practical, emotionally sustaining goals that strengthen your mental, physical, and spiritual health. From journaling and mindfulness to therapy, social media limits, and learning to forgive yourself, this conversation offers a roadmap for real and lasting emotional change.If you’re starting the year wanting to feel better but unsure where to begin, this episode gives you both insight and doable next steps.💬 Primary Topics CoveredWhy most New Year’s resolutions fail — and how to make meaningful onesThe link between mental, physical, and spiritual healthHow to set goals based on self-compassion, not shameThe importance of therapy, meditation, and journaling in recoveryThe role of social media, boundaries, and relationships in emotional wellbeingThe difference between “superficial self-care” and real self-careHow to support others’ mental health by reducing stigmaLearning to forgive yourself and heal from past mistakesUsing your experiences to grow empathy and connectionEmbracing the truth that there is no health without mental health⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Why New Year’s resolutions often fail02:27 – How setting intentions for mental health can be powerful03:38 – Dr. Margaret Rutherford on self-awareness and emotional honesty04:30 – The problem with goals based on shame or self-loathing05:22 – How to take a holistic view of health: mind, body, spirit06:12 – Why self-validation is essential in challenging times06:40 – How to plant “mental health seeds” for your future07:45 – The effects of social media on depression and self-image09:03 – Resolutions that make a real difference (therapy, journaling, mindfulness)10:22 – The benefits and accessibility of online therapy11:20 – Breaking down stigma and understanding hidden struggles13:22 – “People don’t fake depression. They fake being okay.”14:43 – Seeing mental health as a spectrum — and everyone’s on it16:25 – Healing from guilt, shame, and past actions17:09 – There is no health without mental health17:25 – Creating a “to-be” list instead of a “to-do” list18:05 – A message of hope and self-forgiveness for the new yearExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

The holidays can be painful for anyone carrying grief, loss, or depression — especially in a world that insists on constant cheer. In this special annual episode of Giving Voice to Depression, author John Pavlovitz reads his essay “To Those Who Struggle This Christmas” — a heartfelt message to anyone who feels broken, lonely, or unseen this time of year.His compassionate words acknowledge every kind of pain that the season can amplify: grief over loved ones lost, strained relationships, health struggles, or the quiet war within your own mind. He reminds listeners that while pain may feel overwhelming today, this moment is not the end of your story — that you are loved, seen, and not alone.Co-hosts Terry McGuire, Carly McCollow, and Dr. Anita Sanz introduce and close the episode with reflections on why this message matters — and where to find community and support if the holidays feel unbearable.If this season is heavy for you, this six-minute reflection is a soft place to land.💬 Primary Topics CoveredHoliday depression and the loneliness of unmet expectationsHow grief, loss, and separation deepen emotional pain in DecemberMental health and faith: how compassion and honesty can coexistThe false pressure to “be merry” when you’re strugglingReleasing guilt for not feeling joyful during the holidaysWhy you are not alone in your pain — millions feel this way tooThe reminder that your current sadness is not your whole storyFinding hope through empathy, connection, and communityThe role of self-acceptance in healing through the holidays⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction: Giving Voice to Depression’s holiday message00:25 – The power of sharing stories of struggle during the holidays01:32 – Introducing Dr. Anita Sanz and John Pavlovitz’s annual essay02:20 – John Pavlovitz begins reading “To Those Who Struggle This Christmas” 02:44 – A message to those grieving, alone, or weighed by loss 04:25 – When dreams dissolve and relationships end 05:13 – For those facing illness, depression, and personal demons 06:00 – The shared human truth: you are not suffering alone 06:45 – Hope beyond today’s pain: your story is not over 07:20 – Reflection from hosts on finding hope and connection 07:40 – Where to find support and understanding in the GVTD communityExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

The holiday season can bring warmth, connection, and joy — but it can also trigger deep stress, loneliness, and depression. In this insightful conversation, Dr. Anita Sanz, psychologist and board member for Giving Voice to Depression, joins hosts Terry McGuire and Bridget to talk about how to navigate the holidays with compassion and balance.Using a surprising lens — Ebenezer Scrooge — Dr. Sanz explores how grief, loss, and unrealistic expectations can transform the season into an emotional burden, and what we can do to reclaim meaning. She shares practical ways to manage mental health, from setting boundaries and redefining traditions to offering (and receiving) grace.Listeners will learn actionable self-care strategies and a simple but powerful way to support friends with depression during the holidays — what Dr. Sanz calls “the gift of the out.”If you’ve ever felt pressure to pretend everything’s fine when you’re struggling, this episode reminds you: You have permission to slow down, simplify, and celebrate on your own terms.💬 Primary Topics CoveredWhy the holidays are emotionally challenging for people with depressionHow grief and unrealistic expectations fuel holiday stress“The Scrooge Perspective”: empathy for those who can’t feel festiveWhat it means to “offer the out” to someone strugglingHow to set healthy boundaries with friends and familyGiving yourself permission to rest, say no, or leave earlyNon-negotiable self-care during the holidays (sleep, nutrition, sunlight)How to simplify and find meaning beyond consumerismDealing with financial pressure and post-holiday burnoutChoosing quality over quantity: redefining what “celebration” means⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Introduction and welcome02:28 – Why holidays amplify stress, grief, and expectations03:38 – Reframing “Scrooge” through the lens of empathy and depression05:13 – Why some people withdraw or avoid gatherings07:24 – The emotional cost of unpredictability in depression08:00 – “The Gift of the Out”: offering flexibility and compassion08:47 – Allowing guests to arrive, leave, or skip without guilt09:13 – Why flexible invitations reduce pressure for people with depression10:32 – Turning empathy inward: offering compassion to yourself10:57 – The basics of self-care during the holidays (sleep, nutrition, movement)12:07 – Simple, low-cost ways to recharge emotionally12:54 – Asking “What do I really want this holiday to mean?” 13:31 – Letting go of traditions that no longer serve you 14:43 – Redefining family expectations and setting limits 15:53 – Post-holiday burnout and financial stress management 16:42 – The importance of permission and choice in healing 17:38 – Hosts share their own holiday simplification experiences 18:59 – Closing reflections and message of hopeExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

In this special episode of Giving Voice to Depression, hosts Terry McGuire and her sister and former co-host Bridget Shore introduce a simple, science-backed tool that anyone can use to calm their nervous system and ease symptoms of depression or anxiety — EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique), also known as tapping.They’re joined by Brad Yates, one of the world’s most recognized EFT practitioners, who guides listeners through a powerful step-by-step tapping session designed specifically for people living with depression.Brad explains how tapping works by lowering cortisol (the body’s main stress hormone), interrupting negative thought loops, and helping people release stuck emotional energy. He walks listeners through the basic tapping points, offers guidance on self-acceptance and gratitude, and reminds us that even small reductions in distress can reignite hope.If you’ve ever felt “stuck” in depression, this episode offers a free, accessible way to start feeling lighter — no special equipment, therapist, or medication required.💬 Primary Topics CoveredWhat EFT Tapping is and how it helps reduce stress and depressionThe science behind tapping: lowering cortisol and calming the nervous systemStep-by-step guide through the tapping points and techniqueWhy acknowledging your negative feelings is essential for healingHow tapping can help shift emotional patterns linked to past traumaThe connection between self-acceptance and emotional recoveryHow small progress (even from a “9” to an “8.75”) builds hopeUsing tapping as a portable, no-cost self-help tool for mental healthEncouragement for practicing regularly for stronger resultsHow to pair tapping with gratitude and mindfulness for long-term relief⏱ Timestamps00:00 – Intro: Why self-help tools like EFT belong in your mental health toolbox01:11 – What EFT Tapping is and how it helps manage depression and anxiety02:23 – The science of tapping: lowering cortisol and reducing stress03:02 – Brad Yates joins to explain how tapping works04:08 – Why tapping provides both emotional and physical relief05:03 – How small stress reductions create momentum for hope06:08 – Step-by-step EFT demonstration: tapping points and phrases09:23 – How tapping helps release old programming and trauma10:13 – Shifting identity from “I have depression” to “I experience depression”10:30 – Guided tapping session for depression and self-acceptance14:21 – Focusing on gratitude, breathing, and small joys17:19 – Checking progress: from low mood to calm awareness17:57 – Why EFT works even for skeptics18:13 – A tool that requires no cost, insurance, or therapist19:13 – Why saying affirmations out loud makes tapping more powerful19:50 – Call to action: try EFT, share your results, and suggest future topicsExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

The holidays are marketed as “the most wonderful time of the year,” but for millions struggling with depression, anxiety, and burnout, the season can feel more overwhelming than joyful.In this special Giving Voice to Depression episode, Terry McGuire and Dr. Anita Sanz discuss how to manage emotional overload and protect your mental health amid unrealistic expectations, family pressures, and financial strain.Dr. Sanz shares compassionate, evidence-based strategies she gives her therapy clients to prevent holiday burnout — from paring down expectations and setting boundaries to planning for alone time and managing social triggers.You’ll learn why fatigue, disrupted routines, and grief make the holidays especially difficult for people with depression — and how to use humor, self-care, and intentional rest to make it through intact.This conversation is full of practical insights for anyone who feels stretched too thin or emotionally fragile during the holidays — and a reminder that taking care of yourself is not selfish; it’s essential.Primary Topics Covered:Why holiday expectations can worsen depression and anxietyHow fatigue and disrupted routines impact mental healthSetting healthy boundaries with family and friendsDealing with loneliness and grief during the holidaysPractical coping tips for holiday travel and gatheringsThe “Bingo Card” method for handling family stress with humorFinancial pressure and gift-giving guiltHow to simplify plans and reduce emotional overloadCreating new, meaningful traditions when you’re grievingThe importance of rest and post-holiday recovery daysTimestamps:00:00 – Introduction: The mental health challenges of the holidays02:29 – Why expectations and energy demands cause emotional overload03:38 – Family pressure, estrangement, and grief04:16 – How to stop trying to make everyone happy05:13 – Financial strain and burnout after overspending05:43 – How disrupted routines impact your well-being06:19 – Rule #1: Simplify and match expectations to your reality06:46 – Remember you’re a co-creator of your holiday experience07:56 – How to handle loneliness or being alone for the holidays09:10 – Finding meaning when you’re not celebrating with family10:40 – Grieving during the holidays and giving yourself permission to “turtle”11:56 – Using humor and creativity to manage family stress (the “Bingo Card” strategy)13:33 – Reframing interactions through laughter and dark humor14:38 – Setting firm limits on time, topics, and commitments15:39 – Giving yourself a “buffer day” after travel or family events15:58 – Managing energy demands and planning for recovery16:44 – Final advice: Be gentle, lower expectations, and care for yourself firstExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

The holidays are often portrayed as a time of joy, connection, and celebration—but for many living with depression or grief, this season can feel unbearably heavy.In this episode of Giving Voice to Depression, host Terry McGuire and psychologist Dr. Anita Sanz speak with grief expert Krista St-Germain about how to navigate the emotional complexities of the holiday season when you’re struggling with loss, sadness, or mental exhaustion.Krista explains the difference between grief and depression, why both can coexist, and how social expectations and “holiday perfectionism” can make it harder for us to honor what we’re truly feeling. She shares compassionate, practical strategies for setting boundaries, communicating your needs, and letting go of the guilt that often comes with saying “no.”You’ll also learn Krista’s “N-O-W Method”—a simple three-step process for sitting with emotions instead of resisting them:Name what you’re feelingOpen to itWitness the physical sensations until they passThe conversation closes with a powerful reminder: If someone’s going to be disappointed this holiday season, make sure it’s not you.Primary Topics Covered:How grief and depression overlap but differ in focusWhy holidays amplify emotional pain and lonelinessHow social “shoulds” worsen depression during celebrationsThe importance of rewriting family rituals after lossHow to communicate your needs to othersSetting healthy boundaries without guiltHow to stop “pre-feeling” bad emotions before eventsUsing the N-O-W method to process feelings mindfullyWhat to do when loved ones can’t understand your griefHow to honor your emotions instead of performing for othersTimestamps:00:00 – Introduction and welcome01:45 – Grief vs. depression: how they overlap and differ04:25 – Understanding grief as a response to all kinds of loss07:00 – How accomplishments can unexpectedly trigger grief08:10 – The pressure of “holiday happiness” and unrealistic expectations09:28 – Giving yourself permission to change traditions10:21 – Communicating your needs to family and friends11:13 – Handling pushback and advocating for yourself12:17 – Respecting different ways of grieving within families13:06 – Avoiding “should” thinking during the holidays13:28 – How anticipating bad feelings makes things worse14:34 – Learning to feel your feelings with the N-O-W method17:48 – When loved ones expect you to act happy18:04 – Boundaries: “Someone’s going to be disappointed—don’t let it be you”19:37 – Why feeling guilty often means you’re doing the right thing20:12 – Grieving lost dreams and unmet expectations21:08 – The value of mindfulness and emotional witnessing22:49 – Giving others permission to be disappointed23:25 – Reframing conflict and emotional honesty25:32 – Challenging the expectation to “perform” happiness26:10 – The lack of grief education in our culture26:40 – Depression and grief: two misunderstood emotional experiences27:01 – Using EFT (tapping) to manage difficult feelings27:18 – Closing reflections and hope for the holidaysExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/

Michelle is a mom living with depression, anxiety, and ADHD — and raising children diagnosed with OCD, ADHD, and DMDD. In this candid and compassionate episode, she describes how she juggles emotional overwhelm, fights toxic productivity, and clings to small moments of self-care. You’ll hear real strategies from her therapy sessions, how she recognizes early signs of a crash, and why talking to yourself with kindness matters. If you’ve ever wondered how to keep parenting through your own darkness, Michelle’s story will speak to you.Key Topics Discussed:Parenting with depression, anxiety, and ADHDRaising kids with OCD, ADHD, and DMDDFeeling physically and emotionally weighed down by depressionTherapist advice that actually helpsLearning to speak to yourself with compassionSetting boundaries and making space for your own needsManaging toxic productivity and self-worthThe power of naming what your soul needsCreating emotional check-in routines with your partnerThe importance of showing kids real coping strategiesTimestamps:00:00 Intro01:12 Parenting with Depression and Mental Illness in the Family02:12 Michelle’s Mental Health Journey Begins03:10 Physical and Emotional Experience of Depression04:14 Caring for Young Kids When You Feel Weighted Down05:40 Therapist Tips for Self-Care Amidst Chaos07:03 Learning to Speak Kindly to Yourself07:59 How Michelle Manages Intrusive Thoughts08:52 Daily Emotional Dump Strategy with Spouse09:41 Empathy as a Parenting Tool (and Challenge)10:22 Balancing Self-Care and Motherhood12:32 Early Warning Signs of a Depressive Episode14:03 Preparing During the “Good” Days15:35 ADHD and Depression: Coexisting Conditions16:59 Medication Helps — But It’s Not a Cure17:24 Micro-Actions to Shift Out of a Depressive Fog18:50 What’s Missing? Soul-Check Questions21:27 DMDD Explained (Childhood Mood Disorder)24:10 Toxic Productivity and Survival Mode25:41 “Pain is Pain” – Validating Emotional Struggles26:00 Closing: You're Not AloneExplore mental health and addiction treatment options at recovery.comFacebook Community: https://www.facebook.com/GivingVoiceToDepression/Terry's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/givingvoicetodepression/