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AI Agents, Deepfakes, and the Problem of Trust

29.10.2026
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A few seconds of audio can now be enough to clone a voice. But the bigger challenge is knowing who, or what, is on the other end of an interaction. That question matters when someone calls a bank, joins a job interview, or sends an AI agent to act on their behalf.


Vijay Balasubramaniyan, CEO and Co Founder of Pindrop, joins The Tech Trek to discuss how identity and security are changing as deepfakes and AI agents become easier to create. He shares why Pindrop's apparent overnight success took 15 years, how fraudsters are automating account attacks, and why companies need to think beyond a single identity check.


The conversation also gets into hiring. Vijay describes fake applicants, different people appearing across interview rounds, and the case for verifying identity throughout the hiring process and after onboarding. His larger point is that stronger, ongoing identity signals could also make security less intrusive for legitimate users.


Key takeaways

- Deepfake detection needs to keep pace with tools that can clone voices from seconds of audio.

- Companies must distinguish legitimate AI agents from agents attempting fraud or unauthorized access.

- Recruiting teams are increasingly part of an organization's security defenses.

- Continuous identity can protect interviews, accounts, and employee access without adding constant friction.


Episode highlights

- 01:38 Why Pindrop's success took years to build

- 03:44 Voice cloning goes from 20 hours to three seconds

- 06:44 How fraudsters use AI agents to make calls at scale

- 11:51 Who takes responsibility when an AI agent makes a bad decision?

- 16:28 Fake candidates and the risks hiding in hiring funnels

- 21:34 How continuous identity could make security feel invisible


A moment worth pulling out: “They are now part of security. They're the front end.” Vijay on recruiting teams.


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