Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan: Forensic Anthropology and the Suicide of Gabby Petito's Murderer

Ricky Johnson, David Harrington, and Clayton McGeeney were last seen alive on January 7, 2024, watching the final regular-season Kansas City Chiefs game at the home of their friend, Jordan Willis. Two days later, authorities found their frozen bodies outside the house. After a yearlong investigation, prosecutors charged Jordan Willis and Ivory Carson in connection with the deaths, which gained national attention. Both men face three counts of involuntary manslaughter and two counts of delivering a controlled substance. Police say Carson, known as "Blade Brown," supplied and sold cocaine to Willis and the victims. Investigators found Carson's DNA on a bag of fentanyl inside Willis' home. During the investigation, law enforcement initially said they did not suspect foul play. A toxicology report later confirmed that the men had cocaine, THC, and fentanyl in their systems. Police have since ruled the deaths as caused by "fentanyl and cocaine toxicity." As the case progressed, Willis moved out of the home and checked into rehab. A forensic analysis of Harrington’s phone uncovered text messages between Willis, McGeeney, Johnson, and others, linking Carson to the cocaine supply. DNA evidence identified Willis as a major contributor, and a second bag contained DNA matching Carson, confirming his role as the drug supplier.  Now, as the two suspects face each other in court, they don't even look at each other.  Joining Nancy Grace today: Jonathan Price - Brother of Ricky Johnson Derek Smith - Criminal Defense Attorney Dr. Heidi Green - Clinical Psychologist, Trauma Specialist, and Author: ‘The Path to Self-Love and World Domination; IG: @drheidigreen Barry Hutchison -  Former 26-year Law Enforcement Veteran and Detective, Owner & Chief Investigator for Barry & Associates Investigative Services located in Kansas & Missouri Dr. Kendall Crowns -  Chief Medical Examiner Tarrant County (Ft Worth), NEW Podcast --- launching on April 7th, Lecturer: Burnett School of Medicine at TCU (Texas Christian University) Eric Zahnd - Platte County Prosecutor in Missouri Alexis Tereszcuk - Crimeonline.com Investigative Reporter Dave Mack - CrimeOnline Investigative Reporter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack discuss Forensic Anthropology,  starting with the two questions usually asked of Forensic Anthropologists: Who are they?  What happened? Joseph Scott Morgan explains what is Forensic Anthropology and how experts in the field are able to figure out what happened in cases where only a minimum of remains are left to investigate.   Transcribe Highlights 00:10.88 Introduction- Forensic Anthropology  05:05.90 Thinking neighbor was "the" Margaret Mead 10:26.47 Forensic Anthropologists - The Body Farm 14:56.66 Training is very intense 20:01.55 Terminator the liquid guy 25:03.32 Bones that make up the human skull  30:18.10 Swampy area - what happens to bones? 35:08.07 Study of human skeletal remains 40:42.60 Suture lines in floor of skull 44:34.54 Working case of genocide  50:36.76 Gunshot wound 55:22.21 ConclusionSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In his 2022 memoir, "Friends, Lovers, and the Big, Terrible Thing," Matthew Perry claimed to have been to rehab 15 times, detoxed 65 times, and spent about $7 to $9 million trying to get sober.     Two years after his near-death experience, Matthew Perry goes to a Rehab facility in Switzerland. He admitted to faking pain symptoms to get Oxycontin during COVID. He was also getting daily Ketamine infusions. Ultimately it was Ketamine that killed him.   On October 28, Matthew Perry went to his country club to play a game of Pickleball with friends. Perry returned to his home after the game and was seen by his assistant, who was leaving the house to run errands. At 4 p.m., the assistant returned home and found Perry floating face down in the heated end of the pool.  Paramedics pulled Perry out of the pool and pronounced him dead at the scene. Jasveen Sangha, known as the "Ketamine Queen,"  sold the drug involved in Matthew Perry's death.  She remains in custody.  Court documents reveal the close ties between Sangha, drug dealer Eric Fleming, and Perry's assistant Kenneth Iwamasa. Iwamasa told Fleming he "cleaned up the scene" by disposing of ketamine vials and syringes and "deleted everything." Fleming then informed Sangha that he believed they were protected since he never dealt with Perry directly, only through Iwamasa, who would be considered Perry's "enabler." In their communications, Sangha and Fleming refer to Perry using the code name "Chandler,"   Now the doctor who called Perry a moron, who's directly implicated in Perry’s ketamine overdose, Dr. Salvador Plasencia,  admits his guilt in Perry's death.   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Former "Empire" actor Jussie Smollett convicted of staging a hate crime attack against himself on a cold Chicago night.  Then the Illinois Supreme Court overturned Smollett's conviction. The court did not consider where the actor committed the crime, only that his constitutional rights were violated when he was prosecuted again after  the original charges were dropped.   Smollett then settled with the city.   Now a new Netflix documentary suggest Smollett was telling the truth.    Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The death penalty criminal trial was approaching for the man accused of killing four Idaho college students in the middle of the night, Ethan Chapin (20), Kaylee Goncalves (21), Xana Kernodle (20), and Madison Mogen (21), when the state offered Bryan Kohberger a plea deal in exchange for the death penalty.  The plea left some family members of the Idaho college murder victims divided. Under the plea agreement, 30-year-old Kohberger agrees to plead guilty to all counts against him in the November 2022 fatal stabbings, and the death penalty would be removed. After the agreement is reached, the injuries of the victims are made known because the gag order is lifted, and the extent of their injuries left some family and members of the public outraged at the brutality of the crime. Allegedly, some family and friends now say if they had known the viciousness of the attacks, they would not have agreed with the state on giving him a plea. Joining Nancy Grace today: Greg Morse - Criminal Defense Attorney of Morse Legal, Author of “The Untested” found on Amazon; website: morselegal.com Dr. John Delatorre -  Licensed Psychologist and Mediator (specializing in forensic psychology); Psychological Consultant to Project Absentis: a nonprofit organization that searches for missing persons; X, IG, and TikTok - @drjohndelatorre Chris McDonough - Director At the Cold Case Foundation, Former Homicide Detective, Worked over 300 Homicides in 25 year career, Trained the first Native American Homicide Task Force; & Host of YouTube channel, "The Interview Room"  Joseph Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics: Jacksonville State University, Author of "Blood Beneath My Feet," and Host: "Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan;" X @JoScottForensicith Joseph Scott Morgan;" X:@JoScottForensicc Susan Hendricks - (Outside Ada County Courthouse) Journalist, Author: “Down the Hill: My Descent into the Double Murder in Delphi;" IG @susan_hendricks X @SusanHendicks Dave Mack - Crime Stories Investigative Reporter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A North Carolina man has been charged with first degree murder after he beat his roommate to death for asking him for a cigarette.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A teacher is arrested for the cruel double murder of a mom and dad trying to save their two young daughters from a vicious attack during a family hike on a trail in Arkansas, known as Devil’s Den State Park, ending a five-day manhunt for the alleged predator. Clinton David Brink, 43, and his wife, Cristen Amanda Brink, 41, were hiking Saturday with their 7- and 9-year-old daughters through Devil’s Den State Park when a man attacked them on the trail around 2:30 p.m., officials say. The two young girls ran to safety as they heard their mother's screams echoing; currently, both girls are with family members and suffered no physical injuries. The parents are being hailed as heroes for saving their daughters from the vicious fatal attack.  James Andrew McGann, 28, was arrested in Springdale, Arkansas, around 30 miles from the crime scene at a hair salon. getting his hair cut, possibly shaved. McGann is charged with two counts of capital murder, according to a release from the Arkansas State Police. The motive for the brutal attack that resulted in the deaths of both parents is still unclear. Joining Nancy Grace today: Andrea Lewis - Partner at Searcy Law in Pam Beach, Florida, Former Felony Prosecutor at Palm Beach County State Attorney's Office - where Epstein was prosecuted, President of the Palm Beach County Bar Association, WEBSITE: searcylaw.com  Dr. Janie Lacy - Licensed Psychotherapist and CEO of Life Counseling Solutions, Author of "How To Heal From A Toxic Relationship: A Guide To Reclaiming Your Mental Health and Happiness", Host of “The Resilient Professional” Podcast on YouTube, janielacy.com, Instagram & Facebook: @JanieLacy   Ron Bateman - Former Sheriff for Anne Arundel County, Maryland. Former Homicide and Undercover Narcotics Detective, Author of Crime Ttrilogy, "Silent Blue Tears" [he is currently directing and producing a film documentary on the murders at the Capital Gazette Newspaper in Annapolis];.X: Ronbatemanbooks   Dr. Michelle DuPre - Forensic Pathologist and Consultant, Medical Examiner and Detective: Lexington County Sheriff's Department; Author: “Money, Mischief, and Murder: The Murdaugh Dynasty...the Rest of the Story," "Homicide Investigation Field Guide" & "Child Abuse Investigation Field Guide;"Currently Working on New Book: "The Inside Story"  Carsen Holaday- Senior News Reporter, The U.S. Sun  Sydney Sumner - CRIME STORIES Investigative Reporter  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Killer's fanatics target a victim's mom in court with death threats during Idaho butcher Brian Kohberger's sentencing, while a survivor continues to fight to heal. Roommate Dylan Mortensen has launched a GoFundMe to help repair her shattered life. Parents abandon their baby at the courthouse after a failed drug test, the dad claims "they were going to take him anyway."  Plus, a teen's primal scream stops a kidnapper and earns her a "hero" award!  Jennifer Gould reports. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs asks a judge to free him on $50m bond pending sentencing. The disgraced Music mogul to be sentenced in October on prostitution related offenses after acquittal on more serious charges, attorney tell courts no other "John" would still be in jail. Prosecutors insist Combs' remains a flight risk. Combs, 55, faces up to a decade in prison on two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution for flying people around the country, including his girlfriends and male sex workers.  After Combs was acquitted, lead attorney Marc Agnifilo, ask that 'Diddy' be released on bond, however Judge Arun Subramanian denies his request, saying Combs has not shown clear evidence he is not a “danger to any person or the community”. Joining Nancy Grace today: Philip Dubé - Former Court-Appointed Counsel, Los Angeles County Public Defenders: Criminal & Constitutional Law, Forensics & Mental Health Advocacy Dr. Cheryl Arutt - Licensed Clinical and Forensic Psychologist specializing in Trauma Recovery, PTSD and EMDR,  website: askdrcheryl.com,  website: CreativeEMDR.com , IG: @askdrcheryl Dr. DeWayne Hendrix - Former Warden at the MDC in Brooklyn [also served as a Warden in Sheridan, Oregon],  Former Senior Warden with the US Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Founder and President of A New Daylight Foundation, Author: "Who Are You?  See it Say it and Seize it;" @anewdaylight (IG)  @drdewaynehendrix (LinkedIn)  @anewdaylight (X-Twitter) Rob Shuter - Host: Naughty But Nice Podcast, Former Publicist of Sean Combs; IG: @naughtygossip Lynn Shaw - Founder and Executive Director of Lynn's Warriors [an organization committed to ending human trafficking and sexual exploitation],  Host of Lynn's Warriors on YouTube; X: @lynns_warriors, YouTube: @LynnsWarrior Tisa Tells - Pop Culture Investigator & Commentator and Host of 'Tisa Tells' on YouTube; Instagram & TikTok: @TisaTellss, Facebook: Tisa.Tells.3 Sydney Sumner - CRIME STORIES  Investigative Reporter See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.