232. ALL TEA EPISODE; Valley split? RHOC pause rumors; Next Gen NYC casting; New Bravo franchise AND cities?

Cocktailers who are coming to Fan Fest — send us pics and tips! DM B or hit the Send Us Tea button at bravoandcocktails.com all weekend. Last BravoCon you gave us Shep talking smack and Lindsay Hubbard keeping the peace between Tom Sandoval and his ex, and we'll be ready. We start with the email we got about Kristen Doute and Luke, who the streets say have split. Nothing is confirmed and we're rootin gfor them. Next Gen NYC is updating their cast. Who's in and who's out?  Gia Giudice's restaurant is getting slammed online for being adults only. We both come down on Gia's side on this, even as moms. But there's one key piece of info that puts us on the same side. Could RHOC go on pause? And is Bravo soft launching Lindsay Hubbard for a move to RHONY? We're skeptical about this rumor, and share a few reasons why. And we're hearing more and more about a possible new franchise show at Bravo and possible new cities. Last, Bronwyn from RHOSLC is spotted on a flight, the model showing up in Kyle Cooke's videos, and our feelings about Tia from RHOP.  This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors: -Quince: Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to Quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too. -Nutrafol: With Nutrafol Strand Serum, your length goals are officially in reach. Discover Strand Serum today at Nutrafol.com.

We talk exclusives for the first half of the pod! Including a new show that's been greenlit, what's been happening with Jesse McBee and his wife, Alli, plus we're going rogue from what everyone else is saying about Amanda, West and filmig iIn the City. Plus, we heard why CT wasn't in the Bahamas, and the "love child" Southern Charm rumor got a little louder this week. Whitner, we have a proposition for you.  B educates Amanda on the phenomenon of "Will Diggers" or "Senior Chasers" who try to manipulate senior citizens to gain an inheritance. Here's the link to the country song B talked about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKpQRjj_WbU The Real Housewives of Potomac premiere was a banger. Robyn is back and won't give Shmaren a moment of peace. Wendy tries to throw Eddie under the bus from her $200k G Wagon. And we are so sad about Tia...did she know? We have some theories about what might have been happening behind the scenes. Then the premieres. Potomac came back loud: Karen is out of jail and nobody in our DMs is happy she's back, Wendy Osefo is talking about the indictments while pulling up in a G Wagon, Robyn is not giving Karen a minute of peace, and Stacey and Ashley and the rest of the women drop something about Tia's husband at a picnic table that we are still thinking about. Did Tia already know? We disagree on that one. And on RHONY, the old Sai is back and Amanda thinks she's a hypocrite. We get pretty heated about this topic... This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors: -The Lowline Hotel and Leeward Restaurant: Cocktailers! You must check out The Lowline Hotel and Leeward, the gorgeous restaurant inside The Lowline. Exclusive for Cocktailers: Get 15% off your next booking by clicking here and using code BRFF -Nutrafol: With Nutrafol Strand Serum, your length goals are officially in reach. Discover Strand Serum today at Nutrafol.com.

Tracy is with us this week, and she's breaking down the Virtual Reali-Tea Awards. Huge thank you at the Tristate Cadillac Club for hosting us at a genuinely wild night. Tracy tells all: who she met, who was actually letting loose, Kyle Cooke behind the DJ booth, Carl Radke with his shirt off, the Countess closing out the show, and which Bravoleb is even better looking in person. But first, Cocktailers, it's Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Do your self exams and get your mammograms. Whitney Rose was partying at the awards without a care in the world, and her attorney officially filed for divorce the next morning. We have some interesting theories about that whole situation, including a DM about exactly where Justin was spotted last weekend and the company he was keeping. Vicki Gunvalson is very angry at us, so come down this rabbit hole with us that ends with Vickiherself calling us liars. We've also got tea on where Carmella stands, and what's happening with casting for next season, if there is one. Plus RHOA has rolled up to Baha Mar and our Cocktailers are on property, of course. We have reports from the flight, the lobby and the resort. Is CT actually there? The new Southern Charm trailer has everyone flipping out over a love child accusation, and our Charleston people did not disappoint.  This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors: -Cozy Earth: Head to cozyearth.com and use our code COCKTAILS for an exclusive 20% off home and sleepwear! -Nutrafol: With Nutrafol Strand Serum, your length goals are officially in reach. Discover Strand Serum today at Nutrafol.com. -Caraway: Reset your kitchen on a budget. Bundle and save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs buying the products individually. Explore more set savings on bakeware, food storage, accessories and more. Visit Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP to take an additional 10% off your next purchase. This deal is exclusive for Cocktailers, so visit Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP or use code GOSSIP at checkout. -Quince: Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to Quince.com/cocktails. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too.

Happy first birthday to one of our youngest Cocktailers, Baby Beau! This week's Zoom was one for the books...you never know what's going to happen on a Cocktailer Zoom and this one did not disappoint. We're watching Ciara on Dancing with the Stars ad we're so proud to see her doing so well. Are cameras for In the City up? And will West and Amanda be on the show? We tell you what we know plus have some firsthand tea from someone who saw them at the Yankees game. Apparently even Kyle Cooke is interested in that tea, because he reposted it. We're hearing some rumors about Whitney and Justin from RHOSLC - let's just say the streets are talking. We know B is no fan of Whitney's but should Whitney take all the blame for the explosive fight with Quai on the trolley? Smother Mothers...do we consider ourselves Smothers? And last but not least, we're not really surprised that Bronwyn didn't tell the whole truth about her previous marriage....   This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors:    -The Lowline Hotel and Leeward Restaurant: Cocktailers! We're so excited to partner up with the Lowline and Hotel and Leeward restaurant for Bravo Fan Fest! We're doing a "Cocktail on Us" promotion where 10 lucky winners will win a complimentary cocktail at the Leeward Restaurant during Fan Fest weekend in Charleston! Just follow for @thelowlinehotel and @leewardcharleston and comment on this post on our Instagram. You won't want to miss out on The Prosecco Princess, Leeward's special Bravo and Cocktails themed cocktail that comes with a tiara garnish! -Nutrafol: Nutrafol is the #1 dermatologist recommended hair growthh supplement brand. And right now, Nutrafol is offering cocktailers  $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you visit Nutrafol.com and enter promo code Gossip.

Halloween tangents: One of us did racy costumes in her 20s, one didn't, but both are trying to bring the racy costume back. Also, a reminder that the Cocktail Party Zoom is this Tuesday the 29th at 7pm ET. Podcast exclusive: Katie Ginella posted a cryptic "karma" reel this week, so we took it to an OC source. Listen to hear what we're hearing. Plus the Discord debate we want your take on: why is Katie catching heat for gloating when Janet Caperna did the same thing about Danny Booko and Nia Sanchez leaving The Valley and nobody blinked? West Wilson has a new show, and has been spotted with Amanda Batula. Kenny and Whitney got engaged in Italy with a People spread, and we're keeping an eye on Kenny, who might be showing shades of bridezilla — ask him about the pink flowers. Over on RHONY, the new women are coming out swinging at their own marriages: Hailey Glassman on why she married Ruben, Daisy's Craigslist-and-Raya arrangement, and the Jessel versus Erin showdown that sounded extremely rehearsed. Real Housewives of Salt Lake City has a new face (not Meredith) - we are liking Ashley Quai. Whitney Rose and Justin are still living in the same house, and Bronwyn Newport's model boyfriend Brandon has everyone talking. We've also got two exclusive emails out of Salt Lake: one about an OG whose new "boyfriend" is reportedly on her payroll, and one about a blonde OG who is furious that Bronwyn got Traitors over her. Amanda did a little research on what an ayahuasca retreat actually involves, and we're interested but too chicken to try it. Next Gen NYC: does Charlie have B under his spell?   This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors:   -Bellesa Boutique: EVERYONE who signs up to our giveaway wins a FREE spicy toy or gift card for toys! https://bbvibes.com/cocktails #bbpartner   -Caraway: Right now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs. buying the products individually. And you can find even more set savings when you shop Caraway's full kitchenware collection. Visit Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP to take an additional 10% off your next purchase. This deal is for Cocktailers only so visit Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP or use code GOSSIP at checkout.

The RHOSLC season premiere was this week and we are both weepy, teary messes. It was a beautiful tribute and look inside how all the housewives reacted and also supported Mary. Rest in Peace, Robert Jr.    And RHONY was another banger. Erin vs. Jessel and why we see it differently. A moment of appreciation for Erika. Our conversation about Martha Stewart and Daisy turns into: How do celebrities retain their makeup artists? Seriously, Cocktailers, we are curious about this. Tell us what you know. We're hearing about what we can look forward to for the next season of RHONY. We wrap up the pod by talking about the Next Gen NYC finale part 1. We disagree about Liam, and do we think Georgia has a future on the show? B has an interesting theory about why Riley and Ariana are actually not speaking.   This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors: -Bellesa Boutique:EVERYONE who signs up to our giveaway wins a FREE spicy toy or gift card for toys! https://bbvibes.com/cocktails #bbpartner -Quince: Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to Quince.com/cocktails. Get free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. Now available in Canada and the UK, too. -Caraway: ORight now, you can save up to $230 on the 12 piece cookware set vs. buying the products individually. And you can find even more set savings when you shop Caraway's full kitchenware collection. Visit  Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP to take an additional 10% off your next purchse. This deal is for Cocktailers only so visit Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP or use code GOSSIP at checkout. -Home Serve: Join the millions of customers who trust HomeServe. For 50% less your first year, go to Home Serve dot com slash gossip. That's Home Serve dot com slash gossip for 50% less.

RHONY is back, baby. We feel like we got the yacht after this episode. From the Carole Radziwill homage to Carrie Bradshaw to the Martha Stewart cameo right off the back, we think we are going to have a lot to look forward to as fans. While we're happy that Sai is sharing more about what was really going on in her marriage, we can't help but give her the side-eye for not being honest with us all along, and we're really questioning her motives for becoming Jessel's bestie. Hailey Glassman was perhaps the biggest surprise of the show: not at all what we were expecting and we are loving the kookiness. Are CT and Phaedra for real? As much as we love them together, we've got our suspicions and will tell you why we both feel this way. Todd Tucker is not worldwide, but he's releasing a new documentary about his divorce. We would like one Cocktailer to go see this movie and report back to the rest of us. And how his other new movie release is related to some RHOA casting news that we're hearing. Last but not least, could Steven McBee's ex-girlfriend Allie be getting her own show? We're hearing some rumors. NOTE: Amanda accidentally listed Allie's last name as Eckhart. Allie's last name is Eklund, and we're sorry for that mistake, especially because we're both big fans of hers!   Thank you to our sponsors, Bellesa Boutique and Nutrafol for sponsoring this week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip.   Bellesa Boutique: EVERYONE who signs up to our giveaway wins a FREE spicy toy or gift card for toys! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/cocktailsandgossip-pod #bbpartner Nutrafol: Give your hair the support it needs. Right now, Nutrafol is offering Cocktailers $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you visit Nutrafol.com and enter promo code GOSSIP

Rest in peace to Gloria Steinem. We thank her for advocacy for feminism and human equality. Funny story, Amanda was a missing person for about 16 hours and learned what it was to have an Italian Mom and Jewish Mom worried about her. Danny and Nia will not be on Season 4 of the Valley. We weren't surprised...and could Lacy become a full time castmember? Brittany was granted a temporary restraining order, and Jax fires back by filing for his own. This is a big hit to Jax's plans to get back onto The Valley...and Lori K's efforts to rehabilitate Jax' reputation. Podcast exclusive: We got an email in our Send Us Tea inbox that we haven't posted yet...but since we're just among friends here on the pod, we read it and talk about why we haven't shared it yet. Amanda Batula and West Wilson went to yet another wedding last weekend, but there was a little controversy. Cocktailers knew first, of course. This led to a convo about wedding etiquette, and B and Amanda both had slightly different perspectives on it.    This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsors. -HomeServe: Join the millions of customers who trust HomeServe. For 50% less your first year, go to homeserve.com/gossip. Quince: Find the fall pieces you'll reach for most at Quince. Download the Quince app for app-exclusive offers, or go to Quince.com/cocktails. Get free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. 

We start with a tribute to Dolly Parton, who we sadly lost on August 25th. We share a funny story about her that we hadn't heard before...and talk about the way that she fought the patriarchy, yet never considered herself a feminist. We will miss you dearly, Dolly. Big news in Beverly Hills. We're hearing Leah Remini is also joining the cast! We're also hearing this is the heaviest salary year ever for RHOBH...what do we think this means for the show and for other Bravo shows? And, in other casting news, we're also being told that Scheana will join the cast of The Valley for Season 4. Does this mean someone else on the cast has to go? We think it might. We get a lot questions about Lindsay and Carl from Summer House. Are they getting back together? Here's what we know. KJ has been seen with Remi Bader...while we knew who she was we found that a lot of Cocktailers didn't, so B gives us a little more information about her background and career. We relive the Baby Sister saga and Amanda teaches B about the "formula" that tells you how much younger of a person you can date. We don't make the rules, Kyle. Will West and Amanda be on In the City? We share our thoughts on that and why it would make sense. Last but not least, Farah Aldjufrie is expecting a baby boy and announced who the father is. But Cocktailers knew back in July after she announced her pregnancy.    For those interested in donating to Dolly Parton's Imagination Library, which gifts books monthly to children from birth to age five, free of charge, visit https://donate.imaginationlibrary.com/   Thank you to our sponsor, Caraway for sponsoring this episode of Cocktails and Gossip. Over 155,000 people have rated 5 stars about their Caraway Kitchen. Now it's time to try it for yourself. Plus for a limited time, every dollar you spend on clean kitchenware gets you closer to your dream kitchen— or $100,000 cash! Visit  Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP to take an additional 10% off your next purchse. This deal is for Cocktailers only so visit Carawayhome.com/GOSSIP or use code GOSSIP at checkout.

We open this week by remembering Hayden Panettiere and talking honestly about postpartum depression and anxiety. Speaking on it should never cost a woman her job, and Amanda shares her own experience with postpartum anxiety for the first time on the pod. The Send Us Tea inbox has been working this week. Podcast exclusive: we're hearing names for the next season of The Traitors. Contracts are not signed and this is all subject to change, but we like what we're hearing. We also break down three separate emails about what Bravo's Housewives slate looks like heading into late 2027 and 2028. New cities, new casts, and what show is likely going on "pause".  Plus, what's going on with RHOBH filming? And we've got the eight women reportedly asked about the next Ultimate Girls Trip. Then Amanda puts on her Legally Blonde glasses for a look at McBee Dynasty and how timing is everything and is starting to make a lot more sense. Apparently wife-swapping is more common than we knew. Next Gen NYC is so good right now. Following up on the Jax/Brittany/Lori mess, we got a slightly ominous email about the timeline... This week's episode of Cocktails and Gossip is brought to you by our sponsor, Nutrafol. For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering Cocktailers $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you visit Nutrafol.com and enter code GOSSIP.