279 - Marvin Oka: The Nature of Second Order Leadership

In this conversation with Marvin Oka we explore neurobehavioral modelling as a lens for understanding change, leadership, and learning, examining the tension between stability and integration, the four types of change, and the cognitive capacities - such as metacognition and generative inquiry - required for second-order leadership. Moving from theory into practice, the episode explores leadership as an emergent property of systems, offering insights into whole-system change, the leadership anchorline, and how leaders and coaches can guide people from inner turbulence toward greater integration, flow, and adaptive development.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/the-nature-of-second-order-leadership-with-marvin-okaDive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. 

In this conversation with Nicholas Janni and Amy Elizabeth Fox, we discuss some of the core topics of their new book, “Leading in Chaos”. We explore what it means to lead in chaotic times — returning from exile, cultivating the frequency of hope, and learning how to bring real change into organizations. We move through awareness practices, enabling meaningful conversations, directive versus facilitative coaching, and the deeper invitation to embrace the role of teacher and to be a blessing in the world.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/leading-in-chaos-with-nicholas-janni-and-amy-elizabeth-fox/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. 

In this conversation with Jeremy D. Johnson we explore how integral futuring can help us navigate the temporal complexity of the polycrisis and restore a living relationship with the future. Together we look at the practices of tending latent possibilities, weaving time, and cultivating the anticipatory desire that fuels meaningful cultural transformation.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/integral-futuring-with-jeremy-d-johnson/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. Doors are now open for The Power of Embodied Transformation — our in-depth online coach training that gives you access to the most powerful change technology available to us as coaches — the human body itself. Unlock the intelligence of the body so you can create lasting change with your clients. Learn more and book your spot here. 

In this week’s conversation with Rebecca Hinds we unpack why so many meetings drain energy instead of generating clarity and momentum, exploring the rhythm and timing of effective gatherings, meeting triage and the “Four D” test, and how effective brainstorming actually works. We dive into designing and optimising meetings (and asynchronous communication), the foundations of healthy meeting culture, how AI is reshaping collaboration, and how to hold space for truly emergent conversations.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/designing-good-meetings-with-rebecca-hinds/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. Early Bird is now open for The Power of Embodied Transformation — our 7-month online coach training that gives you access to the most powerful change technology available to us as coaches — the human body itself. Unlock the intelligence of the body so you can create lasting change with your clients. Learn more and book your Early Bird spot here. 

In a solo episode with Joel Monk, he reflects deeply on a timely question facing coaches today: Why is embodied coaching not just relevant, but truly essential for the times we’re living in? Learn why navigating life with our rational mind alone is no longer enough, and how it actually cuts us off from a vast web of deeper, embodied intelligence. Plus, get two simple exercises that you can start doing right now with your clients to help them drop into their embodiment.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/essential-tools-for-coaches-in-these-times/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. Early Bird is now open for The Power of Embodied Transformation — our 7-month online coach training that gives you access to the most powerful change technology available to us as coaches — the human body itself. Unlock the intelligence of the body so you can create lasting change with your clients. Learn more and book your Early Bird spot here. 

Today’s conversation with Christina Congleton we explore the depth and breadth of human potential in a time of profound invitation and struggle, weaving in developmental psychology, coaching practice, and the wider economic and neoliberal forces shaping the metacrisis we’re experiencing. For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/the-edge-of-developmental-psychology-with-christina-congleton/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. Early Bird is now open for The Power of Embodied Transformation — our 7-month online coach training that gives you access to the most powerful change technology available to us as coaches — the human body itself. Unlock the intelligence of the body so you can create lasting change with your clients. Learn more and book your Early Bird spot here. 

In this conversation with Jordan Gruber we dive into the “symphony of selves”; where our inner parts come from, how they evolve, whether a single “Super Self” exists, and the concept of “right mind at the right time”. Weaving together pragmatism, mysticism, and microdosing, the episode examines how working consciously with parts (and carefully chosen dosages) can support healing, insight, and improved performance.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/a-symphony-of-selves-with-jordan-gruber/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. Early Bird is now open for The Power of Embodied Transformation — our 7-month online coach training that gives you access to the most powerful change technology available to us as coaches — the human body itself. Unlock the intelligence of the body so you can create lasting change with your clients. Learn more and book your Early Bird spot here. 

has become so difficult in an era of systemic collapse, and how leadership must evolve from individual authority to a collective, values-driven practice rooted in inner work, love, and shared meaning. Together, we reflect on the power of story, the re-integration of the feminine to restore balance, the search for a worldview that serves all life, and what the current state of AI and large language models reveals about our shared existential moment.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/navigating-complexity-collapse-change-with-richard-hames/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. 

In this conversation with Nicholas Janni and Shani Lehrer showcasing their new course, Radical Creativity, we explore the civilizational inflection point we are living through and the necessity of radical presence and inner awareness for leaders to navigate profound uncertainty without collapsing into old programs. Through engaging shadow, pain, and projected parts, the dialogue explores leadership as the capacity to align with deepest essence and integrate the Warrior and the Healer, enabling leaders to balance inner development with outer responsibility and creative response.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/radical-creativity-for-a-world-in-transition-with-nicholas-janni-and-shani-lehrer/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get Free Access to our Transformational Coaching Masterclass with Staci Haines — The Body Knows the Way: An embodied approach to coaching in times of collective uncertainty and stress. Staci will show you how to unlock the wisdom of the body so you can help your clients transform reactivity into resilience — even in the face of today’s challenges. Learn more and get the recording here. 

In this conversation with Emma Donaldson-Feilder and Liz Hall we explore relational mindfulness as a living, bidirectional practice—one that weaves inner awareness with the dynamics of relationship to create coherence, depth, and genuine connection in these complex times. Through shared inquiry, shadow work, and an attunement to emergence, the conversation reveals why human presence remains irreplaceable, and how relational fields become energetic containers for real transformation.For more resources, visit the podcast episode page at https://www.coachesrising.com/podcast/relational-mindfulness-with-emma-donaldson-feilder-and-liz-hall/Dive deeper into transformational coaching with us…Get a Free Guided Somatic Practice — Access Your Embodied Intelligence — with world-renowned somatic coach Staci Haines. In this short session, Staci helps you drop beneath the mind and awaken the capacities of presence, connection, intuition, and attunement — the foundations of embodied leadership in these times. Get the free practice here.