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On this mid-week episode we join the upbeat creators of 'Rebel Finance School', Alan and Katie Donegan, for a turbo-charged pep rally aimed at every late-starter who's ever whispered "it's too late for me." We kicked off the Donegans' free 10-week course that's helping thousands around the world on their journey to FI.     📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐Rebel Finance School 🎶New Album: Money Revolution: The World’s First Financial Independence Music Album! 📙New Book: 'The Rebels’ Guide to Financial Freedom: Simple Missions to take you from Zero to Money Superhero Rebel Entrepreneur Podcast Rebel Donegans YouTube   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes referenced Not Just Another Album, It’s A Money Revolution! | Alan & Katie Donegan | 129 Indiana Jones and an Extraordinary Life with the Donegans | Alan and Katie Donegan | 079     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Jillian Johnsrud—mini-retirement evangelist, mother of five, and author of 'Retire Often'—returns to show us why pressing pause can be the ultimate career accelerator. In this episode she explains the three hallmarks of a bona-fide mini retirement and the three ways to snag one: 1️⃣ Negotiate a sabbatical 2️⃣ Slot it between jobs 3️⃣ Pounce when life throws an unexpected layoff or family crisis   📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charity: The Hope Effect 🌐 Retire Often 📘 Retire Often Book 🎙️Retire Often Podcast    Free Opt-In Worksheets: Planning Negotiating Workbook Group Coaching   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes referenced Retire Often | Jillian Johnsrud | 043   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

On this mid-week episode, we're switching it up again. This time Bill joins the 'Finance for Physicians' podcast with host Daniel Wrenne, CFP®. In this vulnerable interview, Bill owns up to every late-starter mistake—credit-card splurges, 'free' advisors, and lifestyle creep after a twin-sized home upgrade. Then he slings real-world antidotes: pause-plan-pivot, backward budgeting, downsizing the McMansion, and letting Social Security's ‘inflation-proof annuity’ finish the job. Bill's best advice is that physicians should treat money like they treat medicine—learn the language, follow the protocol, and stop ignoring the labs. Now a Financially Independent Physician, we're giving Bill a new name: the (FI)sician!   📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.)   🌐Finance for Physicians The White Coat Investor  Physician On FIRE Open Social Security   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

In this episode we are joined by Cary Carbonaro, an award-winning author, and Certified Financial Planner™ with over 25 years of experience. Her specialty is empowering women to discover their unique path to financial independence. One thing we love the most about Cary is how radically transparent she is with her clients. Just call her the "Queen of Transparency" because she shares her tax return, investment portfolio and other parts of her financial life with them. In our conversation with her we discuss: The Great Wealth Transfer that she talks about in her latest book, 'Women and Wealth.' The unique needs of women and the psychology driving their financial decisions. The played out “widows and divorcees” stereotypes of women. Her analogy of comparing different shoes to asset classes. What women really want from financial professionals (hint: it's not just beating the market).   📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charity: Girl Scouts 🌐Cary Carbonaro 📗Women and Wealth: A Playbook to Empower Clients and Unlock Their Fortune 📕The Money Queen's Guide: For Women Who Want to Build Wealth and Banish Fear 📄Stepping Up Your Function and Style with Asset Classes   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes referenced ATM Receipts, Origami, and Unravelling Your Relationship With Money | Shannah Game | 123 The Power of Cash Flow Planning | Sarah-Catherine Gutierrez | 016   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

This mid-week episode is the recording of a session done with the smart women of the WE (Women Empowered) Wealth Collective, titled: What Every Woman Should Know About Minimizing Taxes in Retirement. ‘Catching Up to FI’ co-host and author of ‘F.I.R.E for Dummies', Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC®, continues through an easy to follow checklist of tax considerations in retirement. She demo-drives 72(t) and RMD calculators, live-shops the ACA site to score premium tax credits, and shows how Medicare surcharges work.  Topics for the series include: Age-band tax checklist (pre-55, 55-65, 65-75, 75+) Separating "macro" worry (markets, policy) from micro action (what you control) Early withdrawal strategies  (Rule of 55/50, 72(t) / Equal Payments, HSAs, Affordable Care Act/Tax Credits, Brokerage Accounts, ect) Tax Minimizing tips during normal retirement (Social Security, Medicare Surcharge, Increased Standard Deduction, Balancing account types) Later in life considerations (RMDs, Qualified Charitable Distribution, Inheritances, ect)   This is the second part of a two-part series and part 1 aired last Wednesday. This session references visuals from a presentation that is better viewed on youtube or you can follow along using this slide deck.   Disclaimer for this session: The intent of this session is open discussion about money topics that makes us all a little smarter. The content is for general education and information purposes only, and is not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.   🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us 📩 Sign up for our newsletter  ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) WE Wealth Collective (Facebook Group) WE Wealth Collective is a group dedicated to empowering women to take control of their finances, cultivate abundance in every aspect of life, and live boldly on their own terms.    🌐JackieCummingsKoski.com 📕F.I.R.E. For Dummies 📘Money Letters 2 My Daughter Jackie’s EconoMe Talk Sarah Catherine “SC” Gutierrez Sarah Catherine “SC” Gutierrez talk at EconoMe Official IRS Tax Code & Publications 📗But First, Save 10 Official IRS Tax Code & Publications Healthcare.gov – ACA Enrollment & Subsidy Calculator 72tCalc.com Dinkytown.net   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes Mind Blowing ways to Maximize Your Health Savings Account (HSA) | Jeff York | 98 Maximizing HSAs Part 2: Devising Drawdowns, Badass Scenarios, Listener Questions | Jeff York | 99 https://youtu.be/36S67X4s4pc?si=UzbaPS2qJcO3ri2W 72(t) Expert Tells All: No More Secrets About Early Withdrawals (Part 1) | Bill Stecker | 131 Cashing in on 72(t): The Goldmine of Early Retirement Rules (Part2) | Bill Stecker | 133  Social Security Made Simple | Mike Piper | 054 Life & Taxes | Sean Mullaney | 013 Attorney Spilling all the Legal Tea on Estate Planning | Jenny Rozelle | 121     If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Mention financial independence and one of the first names that come up is JL Collins, author of the bestselling book 'The Simple Path to Wealth'. In fact, he is affectionately known as the Godfather of FI. One million copies and 10 years after its original publication, JL back with a shiny new, revised and expanded edition... and it just hit the New York Times Bestseller list!!! We know you've heard and seen JL all over the place because he is a BIG deal. But we uncovered some intriguing facts about his life and career that isn't often talked about (we're just curious like that). Here are five things you probably didn’t know about JL Collins that we discuss in this episode: Before he ever started writing about financial independence, he worked in the magazine publishing industry.  He was a job-hopper throughout his career to make more money and took lots of sabbaticals because he liked working, just not all the time. He started writing his blog to teach is daughter (Jessica) about investing, problem was… she wasn't listening when she was a kid. His daughter (Jessica) is now in her thirties and turns out, she has gained a deep understanding of his teachings (way more than he originally thought). She’s now firmly on the path to FI and just left her corporate job. His daughter Jessica was part of his team in updating the new version of ‘The Simple to Wealth’ and getting to work so closely with her was the most gratifying part for him as a dad.   📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) 🌐JLCollinsnh.com 📗 The Simple Path to Wealth (Revised & Expanded 2025 Edition & NYT Best Seller!) : Your Road Map to Financial Independence and a Rich, Free Life 📕 Pathfinders: Extraordinary Stories of People Like You on the Quest for Financial Independence—and How to Join Them 📘 How I Lost Money in Real Estate Before It Was Fashionable: A Cautionary Tale   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes referenced Pathfinders: Triumphs and Trials on the Road to Financial Independence | JL Collins | 070 Pathfinders: Stories of Success and Financial Independence | JL Collins | 069 F-You Money Part 2 | JL Collins | 024 F-You Money Part 1 | JL Collins | 023 Mr 4% is now Mr 5% | Bill Bengen | 111 Sustainable FIlosophy with Mr. Money Mustache | Pete Adeney | 073   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Tax talk without the snooze-fest! This mid-week episode is the recording of a session done with the smart women of the WE (Women Empowered) Wealth Collective, titled: What Every Woman Should Know About Minimizing Taxes in Retirement. ‘Catching Up to FI’ co-host and author of ‘F.I.R.E for Dummies' Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®, AFC®, turns this insightful discussion into a masterclass on trimming Uncle Sam's tab at every phase of retirement. Jackie rewinds to her own FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) journey: the divorce-day "401(k) gap" that lit her savings rocket, supersizing her HSA past $200,000, and hitting FI at 49 with a 40% savings rate. Expect plain-English breakdowns, plenty of ‘there are no dumb questions’ crowd chat, and Jackie's trademark mix of CFP level and girlfriend realness. Topics for the series include: Age-band tax checklist (pre-55, 55-65, 65-75, 75+) Separating "macro" worry (markets, policy) from micro action (what you control) Early withdrawal strategies  (Rule of 55/50, 72(t) / Equal Payments, HSAs, Affordable Care Act/Tax Credits, Brokerage Accounts, ect) Tax Minimizing tips during normal retirement (Social Security, Medicare Surcharge, Increased Standard Deduction, Balancing account types) Later in life considerations (RMDs, Qualified Charitable Distribution, Inheritances, ect) This is part one of a two-part series and the second part will be aired next Wednesday (6/18/25). This session references visuals from a presentation that is better viewed on youtube or you can follow along using this slide deck.   Disclaimer for this session: The intent of this session is open discussion about money topics that makes us all a little smarter. The content is for general education and information purposes only, and is not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.     🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us 📩 Sign up for our newsletter  ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) WE Wealth Collective (Facebook Group) WE Wealth Collective is a group dedicated to empowering women to take control of their finances, cultivate abundance in every aspect of life, and live boldly on their own terms.    🌐JackieCummingsKoski.com 📕F.I.R.E. For Dummies 📘Money Letters 2 My Daughter Jackie’s EconoMe Talk Sarah Catherine “SC” Gutierrez Sarah Catherine “SC” Gutierrez talk at EconoMe Official IRS Tax Code & Publications 📗But First, Save 10 Official IRS Tax Code & Publications Healthcare.gov – ACA Enrollment & Subsidy Calculator 72tCalc.com Dinkytown.net ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes Mind Blowing ways to Maximize Your Health Savings Account (HSA) | Jeff York | 98 Maximizing HSAs Part 2: Devising Drawdowns, Badass Scenarios, Listener Questions | Jeff York | 99 72(t) Expert Tells All: No More Secrets About Early Withdrawals (Part 1) | Bill Stecker | 131 Cashing in on 72(t): The Goldmine of Early Retirement Rules (Part2) | Bill Stecker | 133  Social Security Made Simple | Mike Piper | 054 Life & Taxes | Sean Mullaney | 013 Attorney Spilling all the Legal Tea on Estate Planning | Jenny Rozelle | 121 If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

Wall Street has us all on edge right now, so we called in one of the smartest people we know when it comes to stock market to help us make sense of it all, Sam Stovall. Sam is CFRA's Chief Strategist and a market historian that knows his stuff! He joins us in this episode to discuss: What stock market history tells us about the shaky situation we're in today  What tariffs really have to do with the stock market and economy  The 'rebalance' rule  Mid-term election tailwinds  Where the federal reserve fits into all of this   📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charity- W!SE (Working in Support of Education) 🌐CFRA Research 📗The Seven Rules of Wall Street 📕Standard & Poor's Sector Investing 📘Stock Trader's Almanac BetterInvesting.org National Bureau of Economic Research   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes referenced Catching Up to FI in Uncertain Times | Bill & Jackie | 138 Bonus Episode: The Market is Crashing, Now What? | Bill & Jackie | 135   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

We just hit 1 Million Podcast Downloads... that puts us in the top 1% of podcasts world wide!!! And we have you to thank 💞 This is a special message from Bill and Jackie to everyone that helped the podcast grow to this level. We are so grateful for the support and looking forward to the next million downloads with our regular Sunday episodes and occasional pop-up episodes on Wednesdays.  🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us 📩Sign up for our newsletter  ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.

In this episode we are joined by Julien and Kiersten Saunders, co-creators of rich & REGULAR and authors of 'Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away'. What started as a blog in 2017 has grown into a multimedia powerhouse, all centered around their mission… to inspire better conversations about money. Hear why Julien walked out of corporate life before he had 'FU money,' and how Kiersten's Valentine's Day resignation collided with the pandemic. They also talk to us about:  Their 15-year 'Cashing Out' career sprint The power of 'Money on the Table' (think Anthony Bourdain meets FIRE) The joy of raising an eight-year-old who calls 78-year-olds his besties A reminder that aiming for the heart—rather than the wallet—can turn any late start into a blockbuster finale  📩 Sign up for our newsletter  NEW! 🌐 Visit Catching Up to FI website  🔗Connect with us ☕ Like what you hear on Catching Up to FI? Support the show at "Buy Me a Coffee"  🎙️We love hearing from you! Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question Record a Voice Message with your feedback or question   ===DEALS & DISCOUNTS FROM OUR TRUSTED PARTNERS=== 🎓 Student Loan Planner: Get a custom student loan plan from our CFP®, CFA and CSLP® professionals. They charge a one-time fee for their thorough review. Our listeners receive $100 off a 1:1 consult using the link below. Flat fee is normally $595, but after your $100 off ‘Catching Up to FI’ discount, it's $495. 👉🏼 Be sure to use this link: studentloanplanner.com/catchingup    📈 Boldin (formerly NewRetirement): Retirement planning software that's like having a financial advisor at your fingertips. You can get started with the free version or choose the premium option (PlannerPlus) and get a 14-day free trial.   👉🏼 Be sure to use this link to get started:  Go.boldin.com/catchingup   Personal Finance Club: Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only   Nectarine: Advice-Only and Flat-Fee Hourly Fiduciary Financial Advisors (Catching Up to FI will be compensated by Nectarine if you use our affiliate link, which creates an incentive and conflict of interest. We are not current clients or employees of Nectarine.)   For a full list of current deals and discounts from our partners, sponsors and affiliates, click here: catchinguptofi.com/our-partners   RESOURCES MENTIONED ON THE SHOW: (As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.) Charity- Umi Feeds 🌐rich & REGULAR Blog 📗Cashing Out: Win the Wealth Game by Walking Away rich & REGULAR YouTube  rich & REGULAR YouTube Episode 199: The late starters guide to investing after 40 rich & REGULAR: Taste the Impact | The Money Behind Every Meal Julien's talk at EconoMe Conference  MarketWatch FIRE Starters video profiling rich & REGULAR Invest for Better   ⏰ ‘Catching Up to FI’ Episodes referenced Vote Your Money: Values Aligned Investing | Janine Firpo | 139 Mom and Dad, We Need to Talk | Cameron Huddleston | 048   If you enjoyed this episode, please follow the show on your podcast player and leave us a rating or review. If you want to watch, be sure to subscribe to our YouTube Channel. This helps others find the show and keeps us creating great content for you!   ⚠️Disclaimer: Our content is for general education and information purposes only. We are not providing financial, legal, or tax advice. Always do your own research or consult a professional before making important decisions.