Feelin’ Jovani or Feelin’ Petty? with Eric Williams

Jolenta tries to make sense of what we’re seeing play out with Jenn Pedranti this season on The Real Housewives of Orange County. This leads to a deep dive on The Father’s Daughter archetype and her evil alter ego, The Backstabber.  Hot Mess-Terpiece Theatre Instagram Jolenta’s Instagram SOURCES The Greek Myths, by Robert Graves Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes, by Edith Hamilton The Penguin Dictionary of Classical Mythology, by Pierre Grimal Mythos: A Retelling of the Myths of Ancient Greece, by Stephen Fry Bravo shows, Peacock.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta is joined by Eric Williams (That’s a Gay Ass Podcast) to talk about one of his favorite scenes from the original Real Housewives of New York. Is life really a cabaret if your boyfriend doesn’t get a ticket to the show?  Hot Mess-Terpiece Theatre Instagram  Eric’s Instagram Jolenta’s Instagram SOURCES 'Real Housewives' star Luann de Lesseps arrested in Palm Beach - https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/real-housewives-star-luann-de-lesseps-arrested-palm/story?id=51978385 Real Housewives of New York, Peacock What Is Jovani, and Why Are the Real Housewives Obsessed With It? - https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/what-is-jovani-and-why-are-the-real-housewives-so-obsessed.html Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Is she nurturing or over-controlling? When it comes to moms, it can be hard to tell. This week Jolenta looks at how mothers show up in The Real Housewives and Sister Wives. Hot Mess-Terpiece Theatre Instagram Jolenta’s Instagram SOURCES: Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes, by Edith Hamilton The Penguin Dictionary of Classical Mythology, by Pierre Grimal The Greek Myths, by Robert Graves Mythos: A Retelling of the Myths of Ancient Greece, by Stephen Fry PuppyGate: Every Question Answered About 'RHOBH' 's Season 9 Scandal - https://people.com/tv/rhobh-puppygate-everything-to-know-lisa-vanderpump-dorit-kemsley-teddi-mellencamp/ A Timeline Of Brandi & Lisa's 'RHOBH' Feud - https://www.bustle.com/articles/56946-what-happened-between-rhobh-lisa-vanderpump-brandi-glanville-a-timeline-of-their-feud-may-clear Real Housewives, Peacock The Valley: After Show, Peacock Vanderpump Rules, Peacoc Sister Wives, TLC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta is joined by comedy writer Chelsea Devantez (Glamorous Trash) to discuss the beautifully layered confrontation between Jessica and Amber on season 1 of Love is Blind. More Chelsea - @chelseadevantez More Jolenta - @jolenta_g SOURCES: Love is Blind on Netflix Love Is Blind Season 1 Couples: Where Are They Now? - https://people.com/love-is-blind-season-1-couples-where-are-they-now-11678724 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta explores how The Matriarch and her dark alter ego, The Scorned Woman, stir the pot on The Real Housewives and in Greek mythology. Hot Mess-Terpiece Theatre Instagram Jolenta’s Instagram Sources: Mythos: The Greek Myths Reimagined - by Stephen Fry Mythology: Timeless Tales of Gods and Heroes - by Edith Hamilton 45 Master Characters - by Victoria Lynn Schmidt Teresa Giudice’s Most Iconic Moments: https://www.realitytea.com/2024/03/20/teresa-giudice-iconic-moments-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/ Real Housewives Of New Jersey’ Stars Sentenced To Prison For Conspiracy, Bankruptcy Fraud And Tax Offenses: https://www.justice.gov/usao-nj/pr/real-housewives-new-jersey-stars-sentenced-prison-conspiracy-bankruptcy-fraud-and-tax Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jolenta is joined by reality TV expert/producer Chris DeRosa (Fixing Famous People) to discuss an iconic scene from The Real Housewives of Orange County. Together they explore how Tamra meeting her future daughter-in-law teaches us about the damage men can do with their silence, the rise of conservative ideology in America, the history of DM sliding, and so much more. More Chris DeRosa - @thechrisderosa More Jolenta - @jolenta_g SOURCES Internet Archive Translation of Perrault’s Sleeping Beauty in the Woodhttps://archive.org/details/gri_33125012874901/page/n23/mode/2up 45 Master Characters, Revised Edition: Mythic Models for Creating Original Characters by Victoria Lynn Lynn Schmid peacock.com - bravo shows Everything That's Been Going on With Tamra Judge's Husband, Sons, and Daughters by Talia Ergas https://www.bravotv.com/the-daily-dish/tamra-judge-sons-daughters-husband Inside 'RHOC ' Star Tamra Judge's Roller Coaster Relationship with Estranged Daughter Sidney Barney https://people.com/tv/real-housewives-orange-county-tamra-judge-sidney-barney-estrangement/ 988 Crisis Lifeline: If you or someone you know is dealing with mental health struggles, emotional distress, alcohol or drug use concerns, or just need someone to talk to - call the Crisis Lifeline at 988 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kristen and Jolenta announce the beginning of a new era! This includes: –Jolenta’s new show, Hot Mess-terpiece Theatre, available in this very feed! –Kristen’s new show, Pillow Talk, available exclusively at https://www.hatch.co/pillow-talk ! –The continuation of Kristen’s show, Health Matters from Mayo Clinic, available everywhere you get your favorite shows! –The continuation of Dean & Kristen Look Back - the official By The Book recap show, exclusively at Patreon.com/listentobythebook !  Be sure to keep up with Kristen and Jolenta’s ongoing adventures at facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta, kristenmeinzer.com, and jolentagreenberg.com. You can also follow us on Instagram @k10meinzer and @jolenta_g Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on Bored and Brilliant, by Manoush Zomorodi. To hear the full episode (including Kristen's current feelings about he good and evil of phones), get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love.  And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the home of our weekly advice column, our Patreon-only season of By The Book, nearly 200 minisodes, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve lived by, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love.  And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the home of our weekly advice column, our Patreon-only season of By The Book, nearly 200 minisodes, the written rules of every self-help book we’ve lived by, and more: patreon.com/listentobythebook Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices