Simon Saunders: The Unsettling Mysteries of Time

SPONSORS: - Go to https://www.plaud.ai/curt and use the promo code "CURT" to get a Plaud device today - Accelerate your efficiency. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at http://shopify.com/theories - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE This is a podcast all about time: depending on how you look at it, that's either unnerving or exhilarating. Professor Simon Saunders — Emeritus Fellow at Merton College, Oxford, and one of the most celebrated philosophers of physics alive — goes deep on what time actually is, why special relativity demands a block universe, and what any of this has to do with the Many Worlds Interpretation. Why doesn't space inherit the paradoxes of time? What's really missing from the block universe picture (and is it the same thing missing from quantum probability?) Saunders argues that Bell inequality violations aren't evidence against locality but evidence for Many Worlds, presents a novel derivation of the Born rule from a single physical postulate, and sketches a quantum version of Leibniz's monadology as a possible path through the mind-body problem. I hope you enjoy. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XUBHNMFXUX5S4 TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Defining Temporal Passage - 00:05:03 - Block Universe and Relativity - 00:11:15 - The Timeless Viewpoint - 00:18:07 - CMB and Global Time - 00:23:19 - Persistence and Spatial Revisitability - 00:31:02 - Philosophy of Physics Foundations - 00:38:46 - Relativistic Localization Problems - 00:49:22 - Reeh-Schlieder and Vacuum States - 00:55:23 - Branching and Actuality - 01:05:41 - Interval Probabilities and Frequentism - 01:14:14 - Decoherent Histories Interpretation - 01:25:49 - Ontic Structural Realism - 01:32:15 - Deriving the Born Rule - 01:38:02 - Leibnizian Quantum Monadology LINKS MENTIONED: - Simon's Papers: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=htEv3XIAAAAJ - Many Worlds? [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0199560560?tag=toe08-20 - A Brief History of Time [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0553380168?tag=toe08-20 - How Relativity Contradicts Presentism [Paper]: https://users.ox.ac.uk/~lina0174/kansas.pdf - Trouble With Quantum Mechanics [Article]: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2017/01/19/trouble-with-quantum-mechanics/ - Locality, Complex Numbers, and Relativistic Quantum Theory [Paper]: https://www.jstor.org/stable/192768 - Bohmian Mechanics: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/qm-bohm/ - Finite Frequentism Explains Quantum Probability [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2404.12954 - Chance in the Everett Interpretation [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1609.04720 - Reeh-Schlieder Defeats Newton-Wigner [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0007060 - Everett's Thesis [Paper]: https://cqi.inf.usi.ch/qic/everett_phd.pdf - Physics and Leibniz's Principles [Paper]: https://philpapers.org/rec/SAUPAL-2 - Critical Exposition of the Philosophy of Leibniz [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/1605204536?tag=toe08-20 - Avshalom Elitzur [TOE]: https://youtu.be/pWRAaimQT1E - David Wallace [TOE]: https://youtu.be/4MjNuJK5RzM - David Deutsch [TOE]: https://youtu.be/vKeWv-cdWkM - Sean Carroll [TOE]: https://youtu.be/9AoRxtYZrZo - Tim Maudlin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/fU1bs5o3nss - Sechit Madra (Trainer): https://www.instagram.com/sechit_madra More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Exclusive Plaud Prime Day discount for Curt's viewers: use code CURT for up to 20% OFF at https://www.plaud.ai/curt - Accelerate your efficiency. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at http://shopify.com/theories - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE This is a breaking podcast. We're premiering a new paradigm for quantizing 4D gravity here first, without strings. Neil Turok — inaugural Higgs Chair at Edinburgh, former director of Perimeter Institute, and 2026 Fellow of the Royal Society — believes quantum gravity may not require strings, extra dimensions, or a multiverse. The key: a 1970s theory called quadratic gravity, long abandoned over two seemingly fatal problems. Turok and Bateman argue both problems dissolve — one by reinterpreting a classical instability as ordinary gravitational expansion, the other by a subtle tweak to the Born rule that allows quantum states of negative norm without ever producing negative probabilities. One quiet assumption, Turok argues, underpins decades of string theory's necessity. Drop it, and the whole case for a multiverse unravels. Neil graciously gave me a sneak peek at his and his PhD student Sam Bateman's new research. Bleeding edge! I hope you enjoy. TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Quadratic Gravity Emergence - 00:05:03 - Renormalization and Asymptotic Freedom - 00:10:57 - Ghosts and Krein Spaces - 00:16:00 - Generalizing the Born Rule - 00:23:27 - Ostrogradsky Instability Reinterpreted - 00:31:29 - UV Completeness and QCD - 00:38:21 - Higgs Compositeness and Hierarchy - 00:43:58 - CPT Symmetric Universe Minimalism - 00:52:54 - The 36 Fields Mystery - 01:00:10 - Orthodoxy vs. Revolutionary Ideas - 01:06:39 - Gravitational Entropy and Smoothness - 01:16:14 - Multiverse Measure Problem - 01:23:05 - Theoretical Physics Health - 01:30:07 - Sam Bateman’s Breakthrough - 01:43:33 - Philosophy of Cosmology LINKS MENTIONED: - Neil's Papers: https://inspirehep.net/authors/985402 - Renormalization of Higher-Derivative Quantum Gravity [Paper]: https://journals.aps.org/prd/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevD.16.953 - Quadratic Gravity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadratic_gravity - Asymptotic Freedom in Higher-Derivative Quantum Gravity [Paper]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/0370269385902485 - Ostrogradsky's Theorem: http://www.scholarpedia.org/article/Ostrogradsky's_theorem_on_Hamiltonian_instability - Krein Space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indefinite_inner_product_space - CPT-Symmetric Universe [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1803.08928 - Pathologies of Dimension-Zero Scalar Fields [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.05683 - No-Ghost Theorem for Pais-Uhlenbeck Oscillator [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/0706.0207 - Cancelling the Vacuum Energy [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2110.06258 - Gravitational Entropy [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.07279 - Neil's Lecture: https://pirsa.org/15100070 - Neil Turok on the Big Bang [TOE]: https://youtu.be/ZUp9x44N3uE - Neil Turok on Black Holes [TOE]: https://youtu.be/zNZCa1pVE20 - Carlo Rovelli [TOE]: https://youtu.be/hF4SAketEHY - Leonard Susskind [TOE]: https://youtu.be/2p_Hlm6aCok - Jacob Barandes [TOE]: https://youtu.be/wrUvtqr4wOs - Geoffrey Hinton [TOE]: https://youtu.be/b_DUft-BdIE - Harvey Friedman [TOE]: https://youtu.be/gx3uKT1qJvY - Scott Aaronson [TOE]: https://youtu.be/1ZpGCQoL2Rk - David Deutsch [TOE]: https://youtu.be/vKeWv-cdWkM - Peter Woit & Joseph Conlon [TOE]: https://youtu.be/fAaXk_WoQqQ More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XUBHNMFXUX5S4 Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Accelerate your efficiency. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at http://shopify.com/theories - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Roman Yampolskiy has spent two decades being right about things people wished he wasn't — and he's not here to scare you, but to be precise. He argues AI alignment isn't merely unsolved but fundamentally under-defined: no agreed-upon values, no way to formalize them even if there were, and no mechanism for enforcing them on something smarter than its creators. His strongest argument isn't a doom scenario, it's that you cannot indefinitely control something smarter than you. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Defining General Intelligence - 00:05:58 - AI Instrumental Convergence - 00:11:11 - The Orthogonality Thesis - 00:16:15 - Escaping the Simulation - 00:21:45 - Principle of Indifference - 00:27:51 - Acquired Savant Syndrome - 00:33:51 - LLM Internal States - 00:41:02 - AI Safety Impossibility Results - 00:47:16 - Public Misconceptions - 00:53:21 - Existential vs. Suffering Risks - 01:01:20 - AI Alignment Definition Crisis - 01:09:28 - Computational Irreducibility - 01:16:20 - Substrate Independence - 01:22:50 - Philosophical Zombie Critique - 01:29:57 - The Cassandra Paradox - 01:37:35 - Religion and Simulation - 01:46:03 - Digital Physics Evidence - 01:51:20 - Limits of Control LINKS MENTIONED: - Roman's Papers: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=0_Rq68cAAAAJ - Roman's Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPIq6Bb-1iLmqyksJjy4kLQ - Roman's Twitter: https://x.com/romanyam - Roman's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/roman.yampolskiy - AI Identity [Paper]: https://philarchive.org/archive/ZIETPO-7 - Basic AI Drives [Paper]: https://selfawaresystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/ai_drives_final.pdf - Qualia in Agents [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.04020 - Orthogonality Thesis [Paper]: https://nickbostrom.com/superintelligentwill.pdf - Escape the Simulation [Paper]: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369187097_How_to_Escape_From_the_Simulation - Could This AI Be Conscious? [Article]: https://unherd.com/2026/05/is-ai-the-next-phase-of-evolution - Impossibility Results in AI [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2109.00484 - When AIs Act Emotional: https://youtu.be/D4XTefP3Lsc - Hacking the Simulation [Paper]: https://philarchive.org/rec/YAMHTS-2 - Autonomous Machine Intelligence [Paper]: https://openreview.net/pdf?id=BZ5a1r-kVsf - Hinton on Maternal Instincts [Article]: https://fortune.com/2025/08/14/godfather-of-ai-geoffrey-hinton-maternal-instincts-superintelligence/ - Singleton Hypothesis [Paper]: https://nickbostrom.com/fut/singleton - New Kind of Science [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/1579550088?tag=toe08-20 - On AI Controllability [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.04071 - Universe as Numerical Simulation [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1210.1847 - Nir Lahav [TOE]: https://youtu.be/3nHiOtnnrzA - Joscha Bach [TOE]: https://youtu.be/3MNBxfrmfmI - Bas Van Fraassen [TOE]: https://youtu.be/lhpRAWxvY5s - Simulation Hypothesis [TOE]: https://youtu.be/3_lBPMc6JRY - Geoffrey Hinton [TOE]: https://youtu.be/b_DUft-BdIE - Max Tegmark [TOE]: https://youtu.be/-gekVfUAS7c - Stephen Wolfram [TOE]: https://youtu.be/FkYer0xP37E - David Chalmers [TOE]: https://youtu.be/5r9V1ryksnw More links: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Go to https://www.plaud.ai/curt to get a Plaud device today - Go to https://shortform.com/toe for a free trial and an exclusive $50 OFF on your annual subscription - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Harvey Friedman — the youngest professor in Stanford's history, founder of reverse mathematics, and the mathematician Kurt Gödel chose to sponsor his final paper — has spent 60 years on one question: can ordinary, finite math be trusted? His theorems show that even concrete statements involving nothing more exotic than rational numbers cannot be proved or refuted within ZFC. The foundations of mathematics, Friedman argues, are not settled bedrock but vertiginous — made more mysterious, not less, by his own work. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XUBHNMFXUX5S4 TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Gödel’s Incompleteness Misinterpretations - 00:09:48 - Woodin vs. Friedman Foundations - 00:17:28 - Category Theory vs. Logic - 00:24:30 - Borel Determinacy Paradoxes - 00:31:23 - Embedded Maximality Principles - 00:41:18 - Tree(3) and Kruskal’s Theorem - 00:47:40 - Finitism and Large Cardinals - 00:53:11 - Divine Consistency and Angels - 01:03:25 - Reverse Mathematics Origins - 01:11:14 - Constructive Logic and Intuitionism - 01:21:17 - Theology and AI Immortality LINKS MENTIONED: - Harvey Friedman Papers: https://u.osu.edu/friedman.8/foundational-adventures/publications/ - Harvey Friedman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@harveyfriedman4465/videos - Harvey Friedman Chess Club: https://cclchess.com/ - This Man Is About to Blow Up Mathematics [Article]: https://nautil.us/this-man-is-about-to-blow-up-mathematics-236446 - Harvey Lecture at OSU: https://youtu.be/NAGQD-bSXok - Most Abused Theorem in Math [TOE]: https://youtu.be/OH-ybecvuEo - John Norton [TOE]: https://youtu.be/Tghl6aS5A3M - Emily Riehl [TOE]: https://youtu.be/mTwvecBthpQ - What Is Infinity? [TOE]: https://youtu.be/rHtqGrtcB1w - Norman Wildberger [TOE]: https://youtu.be/l7LvgvunVCM - Wolfgang Smith [TOE]: https://youtu.be/lF4S_P_o-g0 - Scott Aaronson [TOE]: https://youtu.be/1ZpGCQoL2Rk - Consciousness Iceberg [TOE]: https://youtu.be/65yjqIDghEk - Edward Frenkel [TOE]: https://youtu.be/n_oPMcvHbAc - Elan Barenholtz [TOE]: https://youtu.be/A36OumnSrWY - Michael Levin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/c8iFtaltX-s - Godel Incompleteness Theorems: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness/ - Consistency of Axiom of Choice [Book]: https://archive.org/details/dli.ernet.469796/page/18/mode/2up - Independence of Continuum Hypothesis [Paper]: https://www.jstor.org/stable/71858 - Borel Determinacy [Paper]: https://www.jstor.org/stable/1971035 - Paris-Harrington Theorem: https://mathworld.wolfram.com/Paris-HarringtonTheorem.html - The God Letter: https://uncertaintist.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/einstein-letter-gutkind-excerpts.pdf - Undecidable Propositions of Principia Mathematica [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0486669807?tag=toe08-20 - Categories for the Working Mathematician [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/1441931236?tag=toe08-20 - On Necessary Use of Abstract Set Theory [Paper]: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0001870881900219 - Borel Set: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borel_set More links: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Go to https://shortform.com/toe for a free trial and an exclusive $50 OFF on your annual subscription - Go to https://vanman.shop/curt to get 15% off your order - Go to https://www.plaud.ai/curt to get a Plaud device today - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Janna Levin — Claire Tow Professor of Physics and Astronomy at Barnard College, founding Director of Sciences at Pioneer Works, and co-host of Quanta's The Joy of Why — works with Brian Greene to explore whether hidden Klein-bottle dimensions could explain why matter beat antimatter after the Big Bang. The geometry does the work — no fudged parameters. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Universe as Gödel Sentence - 00:05:24 - Unknowable Initial Conditions - 00:10:28 - AI and Non-Computable Consciousness - 00:15:36 - The Hard Problem Paradox - 00:25:25 - Klein Bottle Topology - 00:32:04 - Pin Structures and Chirality - 00:39:56 - Breaking Matter-Antimatter Symmetry - 00:51:26 - Topology and Dark Energy - 00:57:00 - Black Hole Information Paradox - 01:07:04 - ER=EPR and Firewalls - 01:13:37 - Black Holes as Particles - 01:18:42 - Emergent Gravity and Holography - 01:23:43 - Rejecting Physical Infinities - 01:31:41 - Narrative Truth vs. Axioms - 01:41:22 - Insomnia and Mathematical Madness - 01:47:22 - Scientific Mysticism and Honesty - 01:53:34 - Biological Morality and Advice LINKS MENTIONED: - Janna's Substack: jannalevin.substack.com - Janna's Books: amazon.com/stores/author/B001IXTNZQ - Janna's Papers: inspirehep.net/authors/1000438 - Pioneer Works: pioneerworks.org - Whales Don't Want to Go to Mars [Article]: jannalevin.substack.com/p/billions-of-exoplanets-zero-aliens - Black Hole Blues [Book]: amzn.to/4cPOcfr - A Madman Dreams of Turing Machines [Book]: amazon.com/dp/1400032407?tag=toe08-20 - Gödel Incompleteness Theorems: plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness - Gödel Numbering: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del_numbering - Wave Function of the Universe [Paper]: isidore.co/misc/Physics%20papers%20and%20books/Classic%20Papers/Wavefunction%20of%20the%20Universe%20(Hartle%20&%20Hawking).pdf - Janna & Penrose at Oxford: jannalevin.substack.com/p/penrose-and-mein-oxford - Hard Problem of Consciousness [Paper]: consc.net/papers/facing.pdf - Klein Bottle: mathworld.wolfram.com/KleinBottle.html - Klein Bottle Cosmology [Paper]: arxiv.org/abs/2511.23447 - Brane-World Motion in Compact Dimensions [Paper]: arxiv.org/abs/1103.2174 - Dark Energy & Extra Dimensions [Paper]: arxiv.org/abs/0707.1062 - Particle Creation by Black Holes [Paper]: link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02345020 - BH Complementarity [Paper]: arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9306069 - Black Holes: Complementarity or Firewalls? [Paper]: arxiv.org/abs/1207.3123 - Thermodynamics of Spacetime [Paper]: arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9504004 - Most Abused Theorem in Math [TOE]: youtu.be/OH-ybecvuEo - Roger Penrose [TOE]: youtu.be/sGm505TFMbU - Roger Penrose [Part 2]: youtu.be/iO03t21xhdk - Neil Turok [TOE]: youtu.be/zNZCa1pVE20 - David Chalmers [TOE]: youtu.be/5r9V1ryksnw - Brian Greene [TOE]: youtu.be/O2EtTE9Czzo - Leonard Susskind [TOE]: youtu.be/2p_Hlm6aCok - Ted Jacobson [TOE]: youtu.be/3mhctWlXyV8 - Juan Maldacena [TOE]: youtu.be/6LbRHMvyrik More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Go to https://shortform.com/toe for a free trial and an exclusive $50 OFF on your annual subscription - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Juan Maldacena wrote the most cited paper in theoretical physics, birthing AdS/CFT and realizing holography — and today, the problem keeping him up at night is wormholes. He suspects space-time isn't fundamental at all, that geometry itself might be what entanglement looks like from the inside. The singularity isn't a place, it's a name for everything we don't yet understand. I hope you enjoy it. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XUBHNMFXUX5S4 TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Emergent Space-Time Geometry - 00:05:28 - GR and QM Incompatibility - 00:11:52 - The Singularity Problem - 00:17:00 - Extremal Black Hole Thermodynamics - 00:22:00 - The Island Formula - 00:27:30 - Spacetime and Quantum Information - 00:34:15 - ER equals EPR - 00:41:51 - Traversable Wormhole Physics - 00:47:24 - Simulating Wormholes with Qubits - 00:52:53 - Celestial Holography and Symmetries - 00:58:00 - dS/CFT and Dark Energy - 01:04:24 - Quantum Error Correction Codes - 01:10:00 - The Physicist’s Mindset - 01:15:19 - Inflationary Gravity Wave Predictions - 01:21:03 - Clocks and Emergent Time - 01:26:44 - Is Space-Time Doomed? - 01:32:00 - AI in Theoretical Physics - 01:38:00 - Overcoming Academic Inadequacy LINKS MENTIONED: - Juan Maldacena's Website: https://www.ias.edu/sns/malda - Large N Limit of Superconformal Field Theories [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9711200 - Eternal Black Holes in AdS [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0106112 - Holographic Derivation of Entanglement Entropy [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0603001 - Real Observers Solving Imaginary Problems [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.14014 - Building Spacetime with Quantum Entanglement [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1005.3035 - Entropy of Bulk Quantum Fields [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08762 - Entanglement Wedge Reconstruction [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1905.08255 - Comments on the Double Cone Wormhole [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11617 - Traversable Wormholes in Four Dimensions [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.04726 - JT Gravity as a Matrix Integral [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1903.11115 - Single-Minus Gluon Tree Amplitudes [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2602.12176 - Bulk Locality and Quantum Error Correction [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1411.7041 - Black Hole Information Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_hole_information_paradox - Chilloquium 2023 [Lecture]: https://youtu.be/Ow81IJyzmUQ - Erik Verlinde [TOE]: https://youtu.be/ilVImMHcr_g - Leonard Susskind [TOE]: https://youtu.be/2p_Hlm6aCok - Edward Frenkel [TOE]: https://youtu.be/RX1tZv_Nv4Y More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS:- Accelerate your efficiency. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at http://shopify.com/theories- Go to https://shortform.com/toe for a free trial and an exclusive $50 OFF on your annual subscription- I subscribe to The Economist for their science and tech coverage. As a TOE listener, get 35% off! No other podcast has this: https://economist.com/TOESlavoj Žižek doesn't answer your question — he dismantles it, rebuilds it, and hands you something stranger and more useful than you started with. Philosopher, provocateur, self-described pessimist, he insists on something most thinkers shy away from: that freedom isn't the absence of necessity — it's the moment you choose what you fundamentally are. The fall comes first. Paradise was never real. Reality is the gap, not either side of it. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE TIMESTAMPS:- 00:00:00 - Socrates and Radical Freedom- 00:05:02 - Quantum Indeterminacy vs. Freedom- 00:10:06 - Ontological Collapse Paradoxes- 00:15:07 - Adorno and Social Antinomies- 00:20:36 - Democritus: Less Than Nothing- 00:25:40 - Sartre and Existential Choice- 00:30:45 - Freudian Death Drive- 00:36:01 - Heidegger and Hysterical Awareness- 00:42:10 - Imp of Perversity- 00:48:07 - Einstein vs. Bohr- 00:53:15 - God’s Ontological Laziness- 00:58:17 - Hegel’s Retroactive Necessity- 01:03:41 - Digital Spirituality and AI- 01:09:18 - Stalin and Failed Projects- 01:14:41 - Hegel in a Wired Brain- 01:20:10 - Religious Convictions and Physics- 01:25:12 - Zen Buddhism and WarLINKS MENTIONED: - Slavoj's Books: https://amazon.com/stores/author/B000APK7P8- Philosophical Investigations into Human Freedom: https://amazon.com/dp/0791468747?tag=toe08-20- Freedom: A Disease Without Cure: https://amazon.com/dp/1350559164?tag=toe08-20- Groundwork of the Metaphysic of Morals: https://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/kant1785.pdf- Binding, Minds & the Platonic Realm [Lecture]: https://youtu.be/0BVM0UC28nY- Quantum Healing: https://amazon.com/dp/0553348698?tag=toe08-20- Republic of Silence: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1944/12/paris-alive-the-republic-of-silence/656012/- Discourse on the Origin of Inequality: https://amazon.com/dp/0486434141?tag=toe08-20- Beyond the Pleasure Principle: https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Freud_Beyond_P_P.pdf- Philosophy of Spirit: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/jlindex.htm- Hegelian Reading of the New Science of Consciousness: https://www.crisiscritique.org/storage/app/media/2025-08-25/slavoj-zizek.pdf- The Mirror Stage: https://english.hku.hk/staff/kjohnson/PDF/LacanMirrorStageECRITS.pdf- Being and Time: https://amazon.com/dp/0061575593?tag=toe08-20- Less Than Nothing: https://amazon.com/dp/1781681279?tag=toe08-20- The Imp of the Perverse: https://web.english.upenn.edu/~cavitch/pdf-library/Poe_Imp.pdf- Einstein-Bohr Debate: https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/dk/bohr.htm- Ages of the World: https://amazon.com/dp/1438474059?tag=toe08-20- Quantum History: https://amazon.com/dp/135056642X?tag=toe08-20- Phenomenology of Spirit: https://amazon.com/dp/0198245971?tag=toe08-20- Philosophy of Right: https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/pr/preface.htm- White Holes: https://amazon.com/dp/B0BTKZVJJK?tag=toe08-20- Science of Logic: https://amazon.com/dp/1542519918?tag=toe08-20- End of History and the Last Man: https://amazon.com/dp/0743284550?tag=toe08-20More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Why can't local agreement scale to global truth? At the Mind at Large consciousness conference, hosted by the Center for Process Studies, I make the case using sheaf theory and physics — breaking down consciousness, free will, and the hard problem to show why sincerity beats any polished, totalizing philosophy. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XUBHNMFXUX5S4 TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Intellectual Slogan Fatigue - 00:06:11 - The Reverse Elephant Metaphor - 00:11:12 - Local-to-Global Extension Failures - 00:16:13 - Three Senses of Irreducibility - 00:21:16 - Sheaf Theory and Obstructions - 00:26:30 - Hard Problem Formalizations - 00:31:36 - Averted Vision and Consciousness - 00:36:36 - Taxonomy of Everything - 00:41:39 - Pre-articulate Scientific Intimations - 00:46:45 - Speculative Philosophy and Humility - 00:51:47 - Ontological Significance of Vagueness LINKS MENTIONED: - Matthew Segall [TOE]: https://youtu.be/DeTm4fSXpbM - Jenann Ismael [TOE]: https://youtu.be/7kvXihDAOi0 - Aephraim Steinberg [TOE]: https://youtu.be/cOZ3Kto6NIc - The Third Option [TOE]: https://youtu.be/tJsghrZQaYU - Scott Aaronson & David Chalmers [TOE]: https://youtu.be/7PlmOXQ18jk - Curt Debunks "All Possible Paths" [TOE]: https://youtu.be/XcY3ZtgYis0 - Consciousness Iceberg [TOE]: https://youtu.be/65yjqIDghEk - Stephen Wolfram [TOE]: https://youtu.be/FkYer0xP37E - Karl Friston [TOE]: https://youtu.be/uk4NZorRjCo - Michael Levin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/c8iFtaltX-s - Geoffrey Hinton [TOE]: https://youtu.be/b_DUft-BdIE - Noam Chomsky [TOE]: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ7ikzmc6zlORiRfcaQe8ZdxKxF-e2BCY - Anna Ciaunica & Michael Levin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/2aLhkm6QUgA - Mind-at-Large Project: https://ctr4process.org/mind-at-large/ - Process and Reality [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0029345707?tag=toe08-20 - The Structure of Science [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0915144719?tag=toe08-20 - Sorites Paradox: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sorites-paradox/ - The Mathematics of Self [Article]: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/p/the-mathematics-of-self-why-you-can - Gödel, Escher, Bach [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0465026567?tag=toe08-20 - Sheaf (Mathematics): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheaf_(mathematics) - Counterexamples in Topology [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/048668735X?tag=toe08-20 - Process Philosophy: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/process-philosophy/ - Consciousness Explained [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0316180661?tag=toe08-20 - The Conscious Mind [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0195117891?tag=toe08-20 - Matter and Memory [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/1420937804?tag=toe08-20 - Boiling Frog: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frog - Peano's Axioms: https://mathworld.wolfram.com/PeanosAxioms.html - Aharonov-Bohm Effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aharonov%E2%80%93Bohm_effect More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Sign up for Claude today at https://Claude.ai/theoriesofeverything and checkout Claude Pro — which includes access to all of the features mentioned in today's episode - Go to https://shortform.com/toe for a free trial and an exclusive $50 OFF on your annual subscription. - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE George Ellis is one of those guests who makes you rethink what you thought you understood. Co-author with Stephen Hawking of the singularity theorems, he's spent decades insisting on something most physicists won't touch: that reductionism is simply — patently — false. Physics doesn't decide outcomes. Context does. The thermostat sets the temperature. The algorithm tells the electrons what to do. The physics is the servant, not the master. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Reductionism is Patently False - 00:07:37 - Top-Down Causation Mechanics - 00:13:46 - Modular Hierarchical Structures - 00:21:00 - Causation at Emergent Levels - 00:26:56 - Universal Biological Principles - 00:36:07 - Critiquing Penrose and CCC - 00:42:41 - The Physics of Infinity - 00:48:50 - Agency and Physical Constraints - 00:56:08 - The Open Future - 01:07:23 - Bioelectricity and Goal-Directedness - 01:12:28 - Evolving Block Universe - 01:19:32 - Multiverse as Metaphysics - 01:24:49 - Moral Realism as Data LINKS MENTIONED: - George's Papers: https://inspirehep.net/authors/1010821 - George's Books: https://amazon.com/stores/George-Francis-Rayner-Ellis/author/B00287T2PW - Arrow of Time [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1302.7291 - Why Reductionism Does Not Work [Paper]: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-63187-4_6 - Recognizing Top-Down Causation [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1212.2275 - Top-Down Causation by Information Control [Paper]: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3226993/ - Causal Closure of Physics [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2006.00972 - Issues in Philosophy of Cosmology [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0602280 - The Music of Life [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0199228361?tag=toe08-20 - How Can Physics Underlie the Mind? [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/3662498073?tag=toe08-20 - Large Scale Structure of Space-Time [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0521099064?tag=toe08-20 - The Selfish Gene [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0199291152?tag=toe08-20 - World Beyond Physics [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0190871334?tag=toe08-20 - Contextual Wavefunction Collapse [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1807.08171 - A Theory of Biological Relativity [Paper]: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23386960/ - Facing Up to the Problem of Consciousness [Paper]: https://consc.net/papers/facing.pdf - Denis Noble [TOE]: https://youtu.be/K-U-ZB3yHK4 - Michael Levin [TOE]: https://youtu.be/c8iFtaltX-s - Sean Carroll [TOE]: https://youtu.be/9AoRxtYZrZo - Quantum Physics, Digital Computers, and Life [Paper]: https://arxiv.org/abs/2403.06306 - Dynamical Emergence of Biology from Physics [Paper]: https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/physiology/articles/10.3389/fphys.2018.01966/full - The Whole Truth [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0691231354?tag=toe08-20 - Endless Forms Most Beautiful [Book]: https://amazon.com/dp/0393327795?tag=toe08-20 - Topology and Cosmology [Paper]: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF02450512 More links at https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SPONSORS: - Go to https://expressvpn.com/theoriesofeverythingyt to find out how you can get up to 4 extra months thanks to our sponsor, ExpressVPN - Accelerate your efficiency. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at http://shopify.com/theories - I personally subscribe to The Economist. TOE listeners get 35% off the annual subscription. No other podcast has this! https://economist.com/TOE Professor Aephraim Steinberg, winner of Physics World's Breakthrough of the Year in 2011, is an experimentalist who thinks deeply about foundations. For 30 years he's measured aspects of physics others wouldn't touch: Bohmian trajectories, Heisenberg's disturbance bound (he showed it was wrong), even where the photon is inside the double slit. His lab measured negative time, and it keeps reappearing across different experiments. FOLLOW: - Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e - Substack: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com/subscribe - Twitter: https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt - Discord Invite: https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs - Crypto: https://nowpayments.io/donation/TOE - PayPal: https://www.paypal.com/donate?hosted_button_id=XUBHNMFXUX5S4 TIMESTAMPS: - 00:00:00 - Defining Negative Time - 00:06:50 - Quantum Trajectory Theory - 00:12:44 - The Holland Tunnel Analogy - 00:18:40 - Resonant Atomic Interactions - 00:26:05 - Superluminal Energy Propagation - 00:32:00 - Eight Velocities of Light - 00:38:00 - Causality and Retrocausality - 00:44:00 - Dwell Time vs. Delay - 00:50:24 - Time: Operator or Parameter? - 00:58:21 - Bell's Theorem and Realism - 01:04:55 - Heisenberg's Measurement Disturbance - 01:11:26 - Weak Measurement Formalism - 01:17:37 - Time Symmetry and Entropy - 01:27:07 - Bohmian Trajectories Observed - 01:35:56 - Spin-Statistics and Indistinguishability - 01:42:14 - Quantum Computational Advantage - 01:48:15 - Many Worlds vs. Complexity - 01:54:51 - Psi-Ontic vs. Psi-Epistemic - 02:01:37 - Collapsing Tunneling Particles - 02:08:48 - Larmor vs. Atto Clocks - 02:15:24 - Locality and Information LINKS: - Website: https://www.physics.utoronto.ca/~aephraim/ - Papers: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=PzUyb6IAAAAJ - Photon Negative Time: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2409.03680 - Photon Time as Excitation: https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.00432 - Atoms in Excited State: https://journals.aps.org/prxquantum/abstract/10.1103/PRXQuantum.3.010314 - Tunneling Atom in Barrier: https://arxiv.org/abs/1907.13523 - Single-Photon Tunneling: https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.71.708 - Traversal Time: https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.49.1739 - Gaussian Pulse Propagation: https://journals.aps.org/pra/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevA.1.305 - Pulse in Absorbing Medium: https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.48.738 - Eighth Velocity of Light: https://pubs.aip.org/aapt/ajp/article-abstract/45/6/538/1045817/Eighth-velocity-of-light - Attosecond Ionization: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.1163439 - Tunneling Pulses, Band Gaps: https://attoworld.de/fileadmin/user_upload/tx_attoworld/publications/paper_PhysRevLett_Y1994_M10_D24_V73_P2308.pdf - Evidence of Negative Time: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/evidence-of-negative-time-found-in-quantum-physics-experiment/ - Light Speed Reduction: https://www.nature.com/articles/17561 - Theory of Light and Colors: https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/107113.pdf - Wave Propagation: https://amazon.com/dp/1483253937?tag=toe08-20 - EPR: https://journals.aps.org/pr/abstract/10.1103/PhysRev.47.777 - Uncertainty Principle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle - QBism: https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209 More: https://curtjaimungal.substack.com Guests do not pay to appear. #science Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices