JF 4217: From Law to Construction: A Unique Journey ft. Matt McGovern

In this interview, Ash Patel speaks with Matt McGovern about the behind-the-scenes creation of his landmark project: transforming a 200,000-square-foot historic tower and theater complex in Topeka into a multifaceted masterpiece. Matt shares his strategic approach, detailing how he identified unique value-add opportunities and leveraged government incentives, including tax credits and opportunity zone funds. He explains how he structured deals that integrate development with ongoing operational revenue. Furthermore, Matt reveals the strategic mindset that enabled him to creatively negotiate, buy out partners, and align his construction background with ambitious real estate goals, all without relying on outside investors. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr interviews Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez about genuine investor interest. Imagine transforming your pitch into a compelling, repeatable machine that generates actual capital almost effortlessly. In this episode, you will see a behind-the-scenes strategy that helped secure over 350 investor calls in just nine months, from perfecting four-minute pitches to leveraging paid ads that attracted high-net-worth individuals. Discover the exact steps to make fundraising scalable, strategic, and downright effective. Justin Spillers and Chris Lopez Current role: Chris Lopez Founder of Curtis St. Media Co-Founder & CMO of Property Llama Justin Spillers Partner & Manager of Real Estate Alpha Based in: Chris Lopez - Denver Metropolitan Area Justin Spillers - Minster, Ohio Where to find them: Justin Spillers https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinspillers/\ realestatealpha.io/ Chris Lopez https://www.linkedin.com/in/christaylorlopez/ propertyllama.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth interviews Kevin Robinson as they break down actionable tactics like analyzing zip codes with a focus on local amenities and community trends, building relationships on the ground, and employing strategic financing options like the Homestead Loan methods that allow him to grow his portfolio without expensive bridge loans or hard money. You'll also learn why he avoids traditional LLC strategies in favor of a simple, practical approach perfect for most investors who are just starting out or owning a handful of properties. Why does this matter? Because most investors are playing a high-stakes game with little understanding of market fluctuations or risk, often chasing short-term home runs at the expense of consistent, long-term wealth. Kevin shows that disciplined, incremental growth hitting singles and doubles, not home runs leads to sustainable wealth and community transformation. His philosophy emphasizes that real estate is a tool to lift people and neighborhoods today, not decades from now. Kevin Robinson Current role: Executive Council Member at CEOWORLD magazine, Founder & CEO of KAYJAY Consulting Based in: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/krobins2/ https://www.kayrmotivates.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a conversation with Pascal Wagner, Brandon Martini unveils a groundbreaking approach to income investing. While many associate this field solely with real estate or conventional bonds, Martini's private credit fund offers a high-yield, consistent return by strategically financing the training of the next generation of pilots. Amid a significant pilot shortage, this unique strategy allows investors to potentially earn up to 19% annually, with monthly payouts, directly supporting training programs for thousands of aspiring pilots. Martini shares the origin of his fund, which he built from the ground up in 2020. It's revolutionizing private lending by filling a previously unmet, critical funding gap for flight schools. Brandon Martini Current role: Co-Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of Stratus Financial Based in: Huntington Beach, California Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandonmartini/ https://stratus.finance/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join hosts Ash Patel and Amanda Cruise as they interview Kris Bennett, who shares his journey from working in ministry and foreclosure to mastering the inner workings of real estate private equity. He covers the strategic roles of university funds and syndications, and delves into asset diversification across self-storage and flex space. Gain insider knowledge on the elements that define an attractive deal: infill locations, strong market fundamentals, and high-quality construction focused on retaining quality tenants. If you're curious how institutional owners approach lease terms, exit strategies, and financing structures, this conversation provides actionable frameworks and practical examples. Kris Bennett Current role: Chief Operating Officer - Flex Space Division at QC Capital, Founder / Managing Principal of Bennett Investments Based in: Charlotte Metro, North Carolina Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thekrisbennett/http://www.qccapitalgroup.com Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Richard McGirr breaks down why building and scaling your investor email list is the single most important driver of capital raising success. He explains that most operators struggle to raise more capital simply because their list isn’t large or qualified enough, and emphasizes that list growth should take priority over launching new products or funds. Richard walks through the full funnel—from generating reach through earned and paid media, to creating high-converting lead magnets, to nurturing prospects through email and content until they are ready to invest. He also shares actionable strategies for converting attention into investor calls, qualifying prospects, and using scarcity and consistency to close deals faster. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Casmon Interviews Nicole Valenzuela about how the most successful investors know that strategic networking opens doors, but few realize how powerful it can be for scaling your real estate ventures into multi-million dollar opportunities. In this episode, multifamily expert Nicole Valenzuela reveals how targeted relationships and community involvement fueled her $14 million cannabis investment, ground-up developments, and multi-faceted real estate portfolio. Her journey from house hacking to developing multi-unit projects in Chicago unveils the concrete steps to overcome fears and leverage partnerships for exponential growth. Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Matt Faircloth Interviews Josh Hartmann from NEXmetro, who unveils his simple, highly efficient approach that’s delivered over 11,000 homes and attracted both private capital and institutional interest. This episode reveals how a focus on small, detached, single-story homes tailored to young professionals and retirees is creating a nearly recession-proof niche with massive growth potential. If you're looking to capitalize on a stable, high-growth segment of the rental market during uncertain times, this episode is essential listening. Josh’s straightforward, no-nonsense approach proves you don’t need to over-complicate to build a massive, scalable portfolio, just clarity, discipline, and a focus on existing demand. Perfect for developers, investors, and entrepreneurs ready to harness the next wave of housing innovation. Josh Hartmann Current role: CEO & Board Director of NEXmetro Communities Based in: Greater Phoenix Area Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-hartmann-8a149911/ https://www.nexmetro.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pascal Wagner interviews Shane Pogue. He shares how investigative due diligence can reveal whether a sponsor is hiding debt, legal trouble, or even outright fraud, often hidden behind layers of LLCs and international jurisdiction. You’ll discover how to identify red flags like inconsistent income, suspicious business structures, or undisclosed legal battles that can spell disaster and how you can practically get started, even with a modest investment. Shane breaks down the often-overlooked aspects of legal background searches, property risk analysis, and the power of aggregate data to predict potential failures before you wire the funds. Pascal Wagner's interview with Shane Pogue explores the critical role of investigative due diligence in uncovering hidden risks associated with sponsors. Pogue details how to detect issues such as undisclosed debt, legal complications, or outright fraud, which are frequently concealed through complex layers of LLCs and international jurisdictions. Shane Pogue Current role: Founder of Aegis Risk Solutions and Investigations, Due Diligence Consultant at Fidelity Investments Based in: Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex Where to find them: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-pogue-6b900a11a/ https://www.aegisrsi.com/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Ash Patel & Amanda Cruise interview Alex Pardo, an industry insider who’s been in the trenches for over 20 years. In this eye-opening episode, Alex dispels common myths, revealing why true success isn’t about chasing shiny deals or rapid scaling but about strategic, value-driven relationships and market intelligence. If you've ever wondered how to navigate fierce competition, avoid overbuilding pitfalls, or structure deals that genuinely serve your long-term goals, this conversation is your blueprint. You’ll discover why cash flow is just part of the story, and why liquidation events and market timing often fuel the biggest gains. Alex shares candid lessons from his own rollercoaster journey from battling break-ins in rough markets to selling facilities at significant profit, highlighting the realities most industry “gurus” won’t tell you. Alex Pardo Current role: Storage Coach at Storage Wins Coaching Community, Co-Founder at ASCEND Based in: Miami, Florida Where to find them: https://www.youtube.com/alexpardo https://alexpardo.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-pardo/ Visit ⁠trustetc.com/bestever⁠ for more info. Book your free demo today at bill.com/bestever and get a $100 Amazon gift card. Visit ⁠www.tribevestisc.com⁠ for more info. Try QUO for free PLUS get 20% off your first 6 months when you go to quo.com/BESTEVER  Join the Best Ever Community  The Best Ever Community is live and growing - and we want serious commercial real estate investors like you inside. It’s free to join, but you must apply and meet the criteria.  Connect with top operators, LPs, GPs, and more, get real insights, and be part of a curated network built to help you grow. Apply now at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠www.bestevercommunity.com⁠⁠ Podcast production done by⁠ ⁠Outlier Audio⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices