Part Two: The Zizians: Birth of a Cult Leader

Robert and Mangesh Hattikudur explore the birth of the "unorthodox biomedical movement", which is a fancy way of saying "fake doctors who poison children to cure Autism". https://tinyurl.com/Help-Myanmar freeburmarangers.org See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  Rendition to El Salvador: How the Trump Administration Is Sending Asylum Seekers to Labor Camps Miniature Ethnic Cleansing: Encampment Sweeps in Oakland Should You Flee the United States? Elon Musk Has Lost the Gamers Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #9 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone  Sources/Links: Elon Musk Has Lost the Gamers https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2024/09/15/deshaun-watson-trade-details-texans-browns/75189022007/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ykCc588Zw https://thecourier.com/news/549130/browns-need-to-start-asking-questions-about-depodesta/ https://www.georgiaentertainment.com/2024/04/georgias-got-game-why-the-gaming-industry-is-larger-than-film-television-and-music-combined/#:~:text=The%20dominant%20entertainment%20industry%20is,than%203%20billion%20active%20gamers https://app2top.com/news/the-gaming-industry-in-2024-by-the-numbers-a-review-by-gamesindustry-276003.html https://www.ign.com/articles/asmongolds-twitch-channel-banned-following-racist-rant-about-palestinians https://g-mnews.com/en/global-games-market-will-generate-usd-187-7-billion-in-2024/ Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #9 https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/ https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/politics/the-atlantic-publishes-signal-messages-yemen-strike/index.html https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12581 https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9930/ https://x.com/presssec/status/1904875629612331123?s=46 https://t.co/JYbx0FtHc9 https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1904884072763044089 https://t.co/kOhUqcypOJ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-deportation-flights-el-salvador-doubles-down/ https://t.co/eFo00blJBh https://x.com/David_J_Bier/status/1904526812434084143 https://truthout.org/articles/tufts-student-activist-rumeysa-ozturk-abducted-by-ice-on-her-way-to-iftar/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Robert, who is looking better than ever these days wow what great hair, finishes telling Ben Bowlin the harrowing story of how the U.S. murdered thousands of our nation's closest friends and poisoned incarcerated people for a modest payout.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Robert and Ben Bowlin sit-down to talk about controversial blood plasma donation program in the Arkansas Prison system under Governor Clinton that killed more than 2 9/11s worth of Canadians.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  Understanding Rojava’s Tishrin Dam Resistance Anarchism In Uruguay feat. Andrew, Pt. 1 Chuck Schumer and the Collaborators Behind the Tesla Attacks Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #8 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. 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https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/elon-musk/trump-musk-tesla-white-house-showroom-buys-car-rcna195905  https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114141854575248527 https://edition.cnn.com/2025/03/01/business/tesla-takedown-musk-doge/index.html https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/teslatakedown https://abcnews.go.com/US/tesla-vehicles-destroyed-vandalized-musk-began-role-white/story?id=119677836 https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2025/03/14/tesla-boycotts-turn-violent-reports-of-vandalism-and-worse-timeline/ https://www.jalopnik.com/1804358/thieves-steel-44-wheels-tesla-storage-lot/ https://southtahoenow.com/03/13/2025/tesla-superchargers-vandalized-again-in-meyers#:~:text=Damaged%20Tesla%20supercharger%20in%20Meyers,6600 https://www.counton2.com/news/local-news/man-accused-of-burning-tesla-chargers-in-north-charleston-granted-bond/ https://www.salemreporter.com/2025/03/05/salem-man-accused-of-shooting-window-throwing-molotov-cocktail-at-tesla-dealership/ https://www.statesmanjournal.com/story/news/crime/2025/03/05/tesla-dealership-shooting-molotov-cocktails-salem-oregon/81666562007/ https://www.justice.gov/usao-co/pr/lyons-resident-charged-connection-series-incidents-loveland-tesla-dealership https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2025/03/14/vandalism-at-loveland-colorado-tesla-dealership-leads-to-another-arrest/82415599007/ https://komonews.com/news/local/four-tesla-cybertrucks-destroyed-in-fire-in-seattles-sodo-neighborhood-elon-musk-doge-federal-jobs-cut-protests-seattle-fire-department-investigation https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/several-vehicle-set-on-fire-at-tesla-in-las-vegas-police-say-3322726/ https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250303-dozen-teslas-torched-outside-french-dealership-authorities https://apnews.com/article/germany-tesla-factory-berlin-arson-9d66c3efa104d03244bd2c4d920c35a0 https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/03/08/elon-musk-tesla-protest-violence-vandalism/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/dereksaul/2025/03/18/tesla-stock-slides-another-6-as-more-firms-warn-of-musk-led-companys-sales-woes/ https://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-stock-decline-jp-morgan-analyst-guidance-2025-3  https://insideevs.com/news/746064/byd-beats-tesla-ev-production/  https://www.npr.org/2025/02/27/nx-s1-5311609/tesla-sales-europe https://www.npr.org/2025/03/13/nx-s1-5325321/elon-musk-tesla-politics-republican-buyers-sales https://www.npr.org/2025/03/17/nx-s1-5328626/elon-musk-protests-tesla-takedown https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1899106551270375660 https://x.com/MrPitbull07/status/1899107163232190950 https://x.com/DefiyantlyFree/status/1899129877972013112 https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1898369343399899218 Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #8 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Robert concludes the story of the Zizians with a spree of horrific violent crimes and deaths, culminating in a shoot out with the Border Patrol in Vermont of all places.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Robert tells David about Ziz's glorious plan to take to the sea and sever the right and left brains of her followers in order to make them psychopaths god that sentence was weird to write trust us the episode is weirder.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

All of this week's episodes of It Could Happen Here put together in one large file.  How the State Created Elon Musk Candace Owens' Hollywood Tabloid Pivot feat. Bridget Todd Mahmoud Khalil's Arrest and What Comes Next Nate Silver: The Smoothest Brain On The Internet Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #7 You can now listen to all Cool Zone Media shows, 100% ad-free through the Cooler Zone Media subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. So, open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “Cooler Zone Media” and subscribe today! http://apple.co/coolerzone  Sources/Links: How the State Created Elon Musk https://escholarship.org/uc/item/0sg0782h https://www.axios.com/2025/01/09/tesla-clean-credits-trump https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/tesla-racked-up-greenhouse-emissions-credits-2023-other-automakers-lagged-2024-11-25/ https://www.aol.com/report-says-elon-musks-businesses-170042735.html? https://archive.is/QyXuK https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-02-28/wealthy-americans-fuel-half-of-us-economy-consumer-spending Mahmoud Khalil's Arrest and What Comes Next https://apnews.com/article/columbia-university-mahmoud-khalil-ice-15014bcbb921f21a9f704d5acdcae7a8 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/additional-measures-to-combat-anti-semitism/ https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1388516/dl?inline https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/01/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-takes-forceful-and-unprecedented-steps-to-combat-anti-semitism/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/keeping-education-accessible-and-ending-covid-19-vaccine-mandates-in-schools/ https://forward.com/fast-forward/689866/biden-team-resolves-its-final-title-vi-antisemitism-and-anti-arab-cases/ https://theintercept.com/2025/02/15/columbia-alumni-israel-whatsapp-deport-gaza-protesters/ https://x.com/dhsgov/status/1898908955675357314?s=46&t=F-n6cTZFsKgvr1yQ7oHXRg https://x.com/SecRubio/status/1897776709778211044 https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114139222625284782 https://www.nationalreview.com/2025/03/can-trump-deport-a-green-card-holding-pro-hamas-columbia-grad/ https://www.insidehighered.com/news/quick-takes/2024/10/11/cornell-international-grad-student-says-he-wont-be-deported Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #7 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/trump-tariffs-steel-aluminum-levies-imports-europe-china-uk-japan-rcna195810 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/10/business/china-tariffs-us.html https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/china-beijing-trump-npc-xi-trade-growth-defense-nato-communist-tariffs-rcna195271 https://fortune.com/2025/03/11/goldman-sachs-chief-economist-downgrades-entire-us-economy-trump-tariffs-markets/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trade-tensions-china-canada-retaliate-us-tariffs-rcna194645 https://www.proactiveinvestors.com/companies/news/1067709/us-stocks-downgraded-by-investment-banks-amid-pause-on-us-exceptionalism-1067709.html https://apnews.com/article/trump-economy-tariffs-stock-musk-business-8a5f28d9bb16e0b8a924d99ead0907fa https://apnews.com/article/trump-eu-tariffs-countermeasures-806a3b9bcc9cd4e45817e672d95f0070 https://fortune.com/asia/2025/03/11/citi-downgrades-us-upgrades-china-trump-recession/ https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/11/us/politics/trump-tariffs-house-gop-vote.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Robert tells David Gborie about the early life of Ziz LaSota, a bright young girl from Alaska who came to the Bay Area with dreams of saving the cosmos or destroying it, all based on her obsession with Rationalist blogs and fanfic.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Earlier this year a Border Patrol officer was killed in a shoot-out with people who have been described as members of a trans vegan AI death cult. But who are the Zizians, really? Robert sits down with David Gborie to trace their development, from part of the Bay Area Rationalist subculture to killers. (4 Part series) Sources:  https://medium.com/@sefashapiro/a-community-warning-about-ziz-76c100180509 https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/ https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/infohazard https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/ Wayback Machine The Zizians Spectral Sight True Hero Contract Schelling Orders – Sinceriously Glossary – Sinceriously  https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130330/https://sinceriously.fyi/my-journey-to-the-dark-side/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130302/https://sinceriously.fyi/glossary/#zentraidon https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130259/https://sinceriously.fyi/vampires-and-more-undeath/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130316/https://sinceriously.fyi/net-negative/ https://web.archive.org/web/20230201130318/https://sinceriously.fyi/rationalist-fleet/ https://x.com/orellanin?s=21&t=F-n6cTZFsKgvr1yQ7oHXRg https://zizians.info/ according to The Boston Globe Inside the ‘Zizians’: How a cultish crew of radical vegans became linked to killings across the United States | The Independent Silicon Valley ‘Rationalists’ Linked to 6 Deaths The Delirious, Violent, Impossible True Story of the Zizians | WIRED Good Group and Pasek’s Doom – Sinceriously Glossary – Sinceriously Mana – Sinceriously Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg The Zizian Facts - Google Docs Several free CFAR summer programs on rationality and AI safety - LessWrong 2.0 viewer This guy thinks killing video game characters is immoral | Vox Inadequate Equilibria: Where and How Civilizations Get Stuck Eliezer Yudkowsky comments on On Terminal Goals and Virtue Ethics - LessWrong 2.0 viewer                                                                                                    Effective Altruism’s Problems Go Beyond Sam Bankman-Fried - Bloomberg SquirrelInHell: Happiness Is a Chore PLUM OF DISCORD — I Became a Full-time Internet Pest and May Not... Roko Harassment of PlumOfDiscord Composited – Sinceriously Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously Infohazardous Glossary – Sinceriously SquirrelInHell-Decision-Theory-and-Suicide.pdf - Google Drive The Matrix is a System – Sinceriously A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium Intersex Brains And Conceptual Warfare – Sinceriously A community alert about Ziz. Police investigations, violence, and… | by SefaShapiro | Medium PLUM OF DISCORD (Posts tagged cw-abuse) Timeline: Violence surrounding the Zizians leading to Border Patrol agent shooting See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.