AI, Governance & Cybersecurity Culture: Why People and Process Still Matter Most

Podcast: PrOTect It All (LS 26 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: AI, Governance & Cybersecurity Culture: Why People and Process Still Matter MostPub date: 2025-12-15Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationCybersecurity has evolved from an afterthought to a business-critical responsibility - and AI is accelerating that shift faster than most organizations are ready for. In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow sits down with Sue McTaggart, a cybersecurity leader with a software development background and more than 15 years of experience driving security transformation. Together, they explore how cybersecurity success today depends less on shiny new tools and more on culture, governance, and fundamentals done right. Sue shares her journey from developer to cybersecurity leader, offering real-world insights into embedding security thinking into everyday work - not bolting it on after something breaks. The conversation tackles the realities of AI adoption, the risks of over-automation, and why human oversight and curiosity remain essential in an increasingly automated world. You’ll learn: Why technology alone can’t fix cybersecurity problems How to embed a security-first mindset across teams and leadership What AI changes - and what it doesn’t - in cybersecurity governance The role of Zero Trust and foundational cyber hygiene Why people, process, and accountability prevent more breaches than tools How generational shifts and curiosity shape the future of cyber careers Whether you’re a security leader, technologist, or business decision-maker navigating AI adoption, this episode delivers grounded, practical wisdom for building resilience that lasts. Tune in to learn why strong cybersecurity still starts with people, not platform,s only on Protect It All. Key Moments: 01:12 Cybersecurity Evolution and Insights 03:51 "Cybersecurity Requires Culture Shift" 07:09 "Tech Failures and Curfew Challenges" 10:30 "Prioritizing Security in AI Development" 15:05 Cybersecurity's Role in Everything 19:37 "Everything is Sales" 23:54 Adapting Communication for Audiences 26:26 "Think Ahead, Stay Curious." 28:30 Tinkering and Curiosity Unleashed 31:32 "Gen Z: Redefining Work and Life." 36:17 Governing AI: Benefits and Risks 37:59 AI Needs Human Oversight 42:35 "AI's Role in Cybersecurity." 47:25 "Hackers Exploit Basic Vulnerabilities." About the guest: Sue McTaggart is a passionate educator and cybersecurity professional with a strong background in software development. Her curiosity and desire to raise awareness led her to transition from developing applications primarily in languages like Java in the early 2000s to the field of cybersecurity. Sue is dedicated to empowering others through education and strives to share her knowledge to help others better understand cybersecurity risks and solutions. She is honored and humbled by opportunities to speak about her work and continues to inspire those around her with her commitment to ongoing learning and public awareness. How to connect Sue: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-mctaggart-24604158/ Connect With Aaron Crow: Website: www.corvosec.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrow Learn more about PrOTect IT All: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://protectitall.co/  X: https://twitter.com/protectitall  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrOTectITAll  FaceBook:  https://facebook.com/protectitallpodcast  To be a guest or suggest a guest/episode, please email us at [email protected] Please leave us a review on Apple/Spotify Podcasts: Apple   - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/protect-it-all/id1727211124 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1Vvi0euj3rE8xObK0yvYi4The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Aaron Crow, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: IT/OT convergence with ISA President Scott Reynolds | 61Pub date: 2025-12-13Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn this episode of the ICS Arabia Podcast, Scott Reynolds, President of the International Society of Automation (ISA), shares his deep insights on bridging IT and OT cybersecurity, emphasizing how collaboration and mutual understanding are key to building secure, resilient, and efficient industrial systems.Scott discusses: 🔄 The critical role of IT-OT translators in preventing communication and security gaps. 🔐 The importance of ISA/IEC 62443 standards as a unifying cybersecurity framework. 🌐 How IT-OT convergence can succeed through clear governance and shared accountability. 🎓 The need to balance practical experience with formal certification in cybersecurity. 🤖 The growing role of AI and robotics in industrial systems and ISA’s AI assistant, MIMO. 🌍 ISA’s global engagement and the value of volunteering to advance the automation community.🎧 Listen to the full episode to hear Scott’s vision The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: The Industrial Security Podcast (LS 35 · TOP 3% what is this?)Episode: Rapid Recovery - When Security Fails [The Industrial Security Podcast]Pub date: 2025-12-13Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationWe've been hacked. Everything is down. Or more mundane - there was a power surge and 5% of our cyber gear is fried. How do we get back into operation fastest? Stephen Nichols of Acronis joins us to look at rapid recovery of OT systems - from the mundane to the arcane.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from PI Media, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: Interview with Mohammed AlDabbous (Arabic) | 46Pub date: 2025-12-13Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationJoin us for a special live session 🎙️ with Mohammed AlDabbous, a leading expert with over 15 years in OT and OT cybersecurity!Currently the Director of Solutions Engineering at Industrial Defender, Mohammed brings a wealth of experience from his roles at Invictux, Nozomi Networks, and Honeywell.We’ll be discussing OT security trends, real-world challenges, and advice for the next generation of cybersecurity professionals.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Exploited: The Cyber Truth Episode: When Open Source Gets You Into Hot Water: Copyleft Risk in Embedded SystemsPub date: 2025-12-11Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationOpen source accelerates development in embedded systems, but hidden license obligations can quickly create legal and operational risk. In this episode of Exploited: The Cyber Truth, host Paul Ducklin is joined by RunSafe Security Founder and CEO Joseph M. Saunders and Salim Blume, Director of Security Applications, for a look at how copyleft risk emerges and why compliance in embedded products is more challenging than many teams expect. Salim breaks down how restrictive licenses, such as GPL and AGPL, can force the disclosure of proprietary code, interrupt product shipments, or create exposure long after devices are deployed in the field. Joe shares why accurate SBOMs, automated license checks, and enforcing policy at build time are critical to preventing surprises in downstream products. The discussion also touches on the ongoing Vizio case, where the TV manufacturer faces litigation that could compel public release of source code under the GPL, highlighting how open source obligations can surface years after products hit the market. Together, Paul, Joe, and Salim explore: How copyleft obligations can require source-code disclosureWhy embedded environments complicate license complianceReal-world cases where unnoticed GPL dependencies caused major issues, such as Vizio’s GPL lawsuit and Cisco’s WRT54G router familyThe growing implications of AGPL for SaaS and connected servicesHow build-time SBOMs and automated controls reduce long-term risk Whether you're building connected devices, managing software supply chain compliance, or protecting proprietary IP, this episode offers practical guidance to reduce copyleft risk before it becomes a costly problem.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from RunSafe Security, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: Building an OT Security Company from Scratch (Arabic) | 52Pub date: 2025-12-13Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationIn this episode, I’m joined by Engineer Ali Laribi, the founder of Fortress Plus, to dive deep into what it takes to build and lead in the OT security space — especially when you’re going against the crowd.The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Error Code (LS 27 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: EP 77: Building a Cyber Physical System Device LibraryPub date: 2025-12-09Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationDo you really know what’s on your network? A lot of OT devices are white labeled, meaning they have a brand name but under the hood they’re made by someone else. Sean Tufts, Field CTO for Claroty, explains how his team is using AI to sift through all the available data and build a cyber physical library that starts to add specificity to remediation operations, and improve cyber physical security overallThe podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Robert Vamosi, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: ICS Arabia PodcastEpisode: OT Risk Management | 55 with Steve MustardPub date: 2025-12-13Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarization🚨 Featuring: Steve Mustard — engineer, author, ex-ISA President & CEO of National Automation Inc.In this thought-provoking ICS Arabia Podcast episode, Steve dives deep into the critical—but often misunderstood—domain of OT cyber risk management. Drawing on decades of experience, he challenges the traditional focus on tech vulnerabilities and advocates for consequence-driven risk assessments that prioritize safety, operations, and business continuity.🔍 Key Takeaways:Why traditional IT risk models fall short in OT environmentsThe value of ISA/IEC 62443 as a flexible, risk-based frameworkHow multidisciplinary teams (engineering, safety, finance, cyber) create better risk decisionsThe role of incident response, backups, and mechanical fail-safesUS vs UK approaches to cybersecurity regulationsThe podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from ICS ARABIA PODCAST, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: Industrial Cybersecurity InsiderEpisode: How OT Managed Services Are Revolutionizing Industrial CybersecurityPub date: 2025-12-09Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationDino sits down with industrial automation and industrial cybersecurity expert Kevin Kumpf, fresh off the floor of Rockwell Automation Fair 2025. They discuss why OT managed services are finally becoming viable for manufacturing, the critical 80/20 split between people and technology challenges, and how the industry's "silver tsunami" of retiring talent is forcing a reckoning. Kevin shares insights on building unified platforms that can manage everything from 30-year-old paper tape systems to AI-powered smart factories, why IT's "patch now" mentality fails in OT environments, and how the DG 360 platform is delivering true cyber-physical convergence today - not tomorrow. They discuss the reality that most OT cybersecurity tools only discover 30% of plant assets, the importance of human-in-the-loop decision making, and why the OT ecosystem - not IT - must drive the managed services revolution. This is a must-listen for anyone struggling with the complexity of protecting and managing modern manufacturing facilities.Chapters:(00:00:00) - Introduction and Rockwell Automation Fair Recap(00:01:43) - The OT Managed Services Evolution and Rebranding(00:04:15) - The Three-Legged Stool: IT, OT, and OEMs(00:07:32) - Point Solutions vs. Unified Platforms in Manufacturing(00:10:45) - The DG 360 Vision: 360-Degree Plant Visibility(00:14:28) - The Silver Tsunami and Training Challenges(00:18:22) - Alert Fatigue and Actionable Intelligence(00:22:45) - Software Defined Automation and Legacy Systems(00:26:18) - Why OT Must Drive the Cybersecurity Conversation(00:30:35) - Real-Time Demo and Implementation ReadinessLinks And Resources:Kevin Kumpf on LinkedInWant to Sponsor an episode or be a Guest? Reach out here.Industrial Cybersecurity Insider on LinkedInCybersecurity & Digital Safety on LinkedInBW Design Group CybersecurityDino Busalachi on LinkedInCraig Duckworth on LinkedInThanks so much for joining us this week. Want to subscribe to Industrial Cybersecurity Insider? Have some feedback you’d like to share? Connect with us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube to leave us a review!The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Industrial Cybersecurity Insider, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.

Podcast: PrOTect It All (LS 26 · TOP 10% what is this?)Episode: AI, Human Behavior & Cybersecurity’s Future: Cutting Complexity and Strengthening DefensePub date: 2025-12-08Get Podcast Transcript →powered by Listen411 - fast audio-to-text and summarizationThe future of cybersecurity won’t be won by tools alone - it will be won by people, process, and smarter use of AI. In this episode of Protect It All, host Aaron Crow sits down with cybersecurity veteran Sharad Rai to explore how IT and OT security teams can reduce complexity, fight alert fatigue, and build stronger defenses through foundational practices and intelligent automation. Sharad brings decades of real-world experience - from early firewall management to leading large-scale security programs at major financial institutions. Together, Aaron and Sharad break down what actually works in cybersecurity today: simplifying policies, understanding user behavior, strengthening basics like patching, and leveraging AI for contextual decision-making. You’ll learn: Why human behavior is the root of both risk and resilience How AI can reduce complexity, noise, and alert fatigue What “good vs bad” looks like through an AI-driven, context-aware lens How policy overload cripples organizations - and how to fix it Why OT and IT security still depend on foundational hygiene The rise of browser-based security and Chrome as an endpoint What’s coming next: AI-driven phishing, contextual controls, and automated response Whether you're a security leader, practitioner, or just navigating modern cyber challenges, this episode will reshape how you think about defending systems and the people using them. Tune in to discover how AI, clarity, and human-centered design are shaping cybersecurity’s next chapter only on Protect It All. Key Moments:  06:21 "Cybersecurity Basics: Know the Layers" 09:49 "Defining Good to Block Bad" 13:03 Alarm Fatigue and Information Overload 14:01 Alarm Tuning and Data Utilization 19:02 RFID Tags and Process Frustration 23:03 Simplifying Cybersecurity for Success 25:18 "AI Optimizing Policy Adjustments" 27:33 "Tech Frustrations Then and Now" 31:46 Cloud Computing Transformed Everyday Work 36:05 Focus on Foundational Basics About the guest :  Sharad Rai is a cybersecurity leader and architect with over 20 years of experience securing some of the world’s most complex financial institutions. As Vice President of Security and Architecture at State Street, he leads regulatory-driven initiatives and delivers enterprise-wide cybersecurity programs across cloud, infrastructure, and endpoint platforms. Sharad has held key security roles at Morgan Stanley, BNP Paribas, Jefferies, and Foundation Medicine, with deep expertise in EDR, PAM, SASE, ZTNA, and cloud-native security. He is known for simplifying complexity, reducing risk, and bridging product, engineering, and executive teams. How to connect Sharad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharad-rai-cissp-a951a28 Connect With Aaron Crow: Website: www.corvosec.com  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aaronccrow Learn more about PrOTect IT All: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://protectitall.co/  X: https://twitter.com/protectitall  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PrOTectITAll  FaceBook:  https://facebook.com/protectitallpodcast  To be a guest or suggest a guest/episode, please email us at [email protected] Please leave us a review on Apple/Spotify Podcasts: Apple   - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/protect-it-all/id1727211124 Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/1Vvi0euj3rE8xObK0yvYi4The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Aaron Crow, which is the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Listen Notes, Inc.