Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis on AI, Creativity, and a Golden Age of Science | All-In Summit

(0:00) Introducing Sir Demis Hassabis, reflecting on his Nobel Prize win (2:39) What is Google DeepMind? How does it interact with Google and Alphabet? (4:01) Genie 3 world model (9:21) State of robotics models, form factors, and more (14:42) AI science breakthroughs, measuring AGI (20:49) Nano-Banana and the future of creative tools, democratization of creativity (24:44) Isomorphic Labs, probabilistic vs deterministic, scaling compute, a golden age of science Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana: https://solana.com/ OKX: https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com/ IREN: https://iren.com/ Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/ Circle: https://www.circle.com/ BVNK: https://www.bvnk.com/ Follow Demis: https://x.com/demishassabis Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect  

(0:00) Introducing Elon Musk, and reflecting on his DOGE experience (2:47) Optimus: Progress and potential, the “hands problem” (12:20) Tesla: AI5 chips, impact on FSD (16:50) SpaceX: Vision for Starlink-enabled smartphones, $17B spectrum deal, Starship update (26:16) xAI: Next-gen Grok models, Colossus 2, scaling laws, “Grokipedia” (31:29) Evolving alongside AI, implosion of the West, the religion vacuum (37:36) Understanding the universe, going to the Moon, what happens on Mars? Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana: https://solana.com/ OKX: https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com/ IREN: https://iren.com/ Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/ Circle: https://www.circle.com/ BVNK: https://www.bvnk.com/ Follow Elon: https://x.com/elonmusk Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Introducing Palantir CEO Alex Karp (1:10) Understanding Palantir's fans and haters (8:40) Palantir’s work at the border, data collection and surveillance, built-in protections (20:02) Israel/Palestine (22:23) Is the West committing suicide? (30:54) Antisemitism (31:52) China’s strategy, dealing with cartels (36:46) Why modern Progressivism is not progressive Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana: https://solana.com/ OKX: https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com/ IREN: https://iren.com/ Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/ Circle: https://www.circle.com/ BVNK: https://www.bvnk.com/ Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Introducing Adena Friedman (1:16) Nasdaq's business, expanding beyond a stock exchange (2:44) Big announcement! Nasdaq will offer tokenized securities, crypto going mainstream, the 24/5 trading schedule (7:21) How the IPO market can change to help companies go public faster (13:37) Evolution of markets: predictions, options, SPVs, secondaries (18:18) State of the stock market, role at the NY Fed, data issues at the Fed Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana: https://solana.com/ OKX: https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com/ IREN: https://iren.com/ Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/ Circle: https://www.circle.com/ BVNK: https://www.bvnk.com/  Follow Adena: https://x.com/adenatfriedman  Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg  Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod  Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod  Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod  Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod  Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg  Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Introducing Mark Cuban, sadness over Luka Doncic (2:38) America’s broken healthcare system (15:16) State of the two-party system (19:24) Introducing Tucker Carlson (20:01) The fine line between listening and pandering, is Mamdani the Trump of the Left? (24:27) How to make Americans believe in America again (34:12) AI job displacement (39:29) Lightning round with Tucker: Epstein, Putin, why the West is killing itself, the SSRI epidemic, Iryna Zarutska murder (52:54) Antisemitism and Israel Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana: https://solana.com/ OKX: https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com/ IREN: https://iren.com/ Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/ Circle: https://www.circle.com/ BVNK: https://www.bvnk.com/ Follow Mark Cuban: https://x.com/mcuban Follow Tucker Carlson: https://x.com/TuckerCarlson Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Introducing Secretary Wright (1:09) Nuclear, China’s approach (4:02) Increasing energy output, how the climate change complex slowed us down, problems with solar and wind (11:32) Debating renewables vs nat gas and coal (18:40) Chamath’s energy framework (21:42) Addressing challenges: budget cuts to research labs, residential energy cost increases due to datacenter demand, speeding up nuclear development Thanks to our partners for making this happen! Solana: https://solana.com/ OKX: https://www.okx.com/ Google Cloud: https://cloud.google.com/ IREN: https://iren.com/ Oracle: https://www.oracle.com/ Circle: https://www.circle.com/ BVNK: https://www.bvnk.com/ Follow Secretary Wright: https://x.com/SecretaryWright Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

(0:00) Bestie intros (0:52) Behind the scenes of the White House Tech Dinner! (28:39) Tariff showdown headed to the Supreme Court (42:44) Other Trump Administration legal battles (46:58) Weak jobs report: what is the state of the economy? (57:52) Google avoids worst-case scenario in antitrust case Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/EdLudlow/status/1963763066988110177 https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2025/09/president-trump-tech-leaders-unite-american-ai-dominance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opn9soJ5TYM&t=11s https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115119151783895076 https://www.congress.gov/bill/94th-congress/house-bill/3884 https://www.cbo.gov/publication/61697 https://x.com/tkl_adam/status/1963961233368924464 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jobs-report-today-august-2025-three-takeways-federal-reserve https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/02/google-antitrust-search-ruling.html https://polymarket.com/event/us-recession-in-2025?tid=1757216927232 https://www.wsj.com/opinion/google-antitrust-lawsuit-artificial-intelligence-amit-mehta-doj-trump-administration-d3b675b4

(0:00) David Friedberg welcomes Senator Rand Paul: background, family, what led him to medicine first (3:56) Career Change: Medicine to Politics (7:03) Political Philosophy (10:55) Trade Policy & Economic Impact (15:52) Consequences of Tariffs (20:43) Voting Against the One Big Beautiful Bill (27:52) AI & the Economy (35:10) Our Fragile Financial System (41:22) Government Employment & Appropriate Spending (48:18) COVID Cover Up & Dangers of Gain-of-function Research (1:01:00) Relations with China (1:05:52) Political Future Follow Senator Paul: https://x.com/senrandpaul Check out Deception: The Great Covid Cover-Up: https://www.amazon.com/Deception-Great-Cover-Up-Rand-Paul/dp/1684515130 Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

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