When the Ladder Has No More Rungs, Here's What to Do, with Natalie Benamou

What if the thing nobody prepares you for is not the hard climb to the top - but the moment you get there and realize there is no next rung? You have done everything right. You have the title, the track record, the team. And you look up and the ladder ends. Today's guest built an entire network for the woman in that exact moment - and she is here to tell you that the ladder running out is not the end of the story. It is the beginning of the most interesting chapter you have ever written.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you have ever looked up after decades of climbing and realized the ladder you have been on does not go where you thought it would, Natalie Benamou built HerCSuite for you. She is the founder and CEO of HerCSuite, a portfolio career network for women leaders in the second half of their careers. She has driven over $110 million in revenue as a business strategist and rainmaker. She is the CEO and president of HerHealthX, a nonprofit using agentic AI to bridge the care communication gap for women. And she hosts one of the top-ranked women's leadership podcasts, Women Leaders on the Move. In this conversation, Natalie and Erica compare notes on what the second half of a career actually looks like, what a portfolio career means in practice, how boards work and why women need to stop waiting to be tapped, and what AI is doing to the opportunity landscape for senior women right now.INSIDE THE EPISODEThe Titanic Moment. March 2020. Natalie was leading a division in trade shows - hundreds of events on a giant whiteboard - when everything stopped. She was the conductor keeping everyone playing while the ship was going down. By October of that year she knew it was time to fly through the open window. HerCSuite was born from that moment and the Zoom calls with girlfriends that followed.Multi-Hyphenate Is the New Career Path. Women in the second half of their careers are not looking for one next thing. They are building portfolio careers - board roles, entrepreneurship, advisory work, thought leadership, all at once. Natalie's Love/Like/Capable framework helps women figure out what they actually want to spend their time on before they jump into anything new.Women Don't Have the Luxury of Happy Hours. Erica on the networking gap: women are not building the informal connections that men build over drinks and dinners after work because they are home running households. The connections that get women into rooms and onto boards are the ones that have to be built deliberately - and that is exactly why communities like HerCSuite and HER Collective exist.The S&P Board Numbers Went Backwards. Women on S&P boards went from 38% to 25%. That is not progress, that is a reversal. Natalie's response: you gotta open your own doors. Board seats are the highest, hardest position in any company, and nobody is going to tap you on the shoulder. You have to build the visibility, the strategic narrative, and the relationships that get you there.CoLab3: The 90-Day Sprint That Builds Revenue and Community at the Same Time. HerCSuite's CoLab3 matches three members into 90-day sprint pods to solve a problem together and generate collaborative revenue. The first cohort built everything from an M&A assessment tool to a cybersecurity business checklist to an AI readiness survey. The model is built on the idea that the right three people in a room for 90 days can generate what none of them could alone.Skipping the AI Fundamentals. Erica on the AI gap she keeps seeing: people want to jump straight to autonomous AI workflows without learning how to actually communicate with the machine. It is like skipping vocabulary and grammar and trying to write a novel. The women who will close the AI gap are the ones who do the foundational work first.Identify Your Values Before Your Next Move. Natalie's most practical advice: before you make any next career move, know what matters most to you. Family, freedom, title, impact - whatever it is, get clear on it first, because every decision you make will either align with it or cost you something. The women who skip this step are the ones who land in the next chapter and realize it does not fit.RESOURCES & LINKSHerCSuite Network: https://hercsuite.com/HerCSuite Membership: https://hercsuite.com/hercsuite-network-where-women-lead-the-future/Board Ready Summit: https://hercsuite.com/board-ready-summit/Women Leaders on the Move Podcast: https://hercsuite.com/podcast/Natalie Benamou on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nataliebenamou/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the reason your brand feels scattered, your referrals are misaligned, and you keep attracting clients that drain you is not a marketing problem - but an identity problem? Robyn Young has spent eight years building brands for Google, UCLA, and founders across every industry while quietly hiding from her own. When the business she thought was her exit strategy collapsed, she finally put herself through her own framework. One income stream became five. And what she built - the Brand Universe - is the framework that changed everything. This episode is for the woman who has been putting it off long enough.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you have ever walked away from a brand strategy session with a mission statement, a vision, a set of values, and a content calendar - and still felt like nothing had actually changed - Robyn Young has a name for what happened to you. You got a box. Not a brand. Robyn is the founder of Young and Co, a brand strategy and creative studio based in Los Angeles. She has worked with Google, UCLA, Verishop, and Industrious, and her framework - the Brand Universe - is built on a single idea: your brand is built from the inside out around a point of view so specific and so true that competitors can copy your tactics but they can never copy your conviction. She is also the author of Build Your Brand Universe. And yes, she spent eight years building brands for everyone else before she finally built one for herself. This conversation is the one she spent eight years earning the right to have.INSIDE THE EPISODEYour Company Is Not Your Brand. For the corporate woman who has built her entire professional identity around where she works and who she has worked with - Robyn's opening reframe is the most important thing in the episode. If you are only ever depending on who you have worked with, you are in the shallowest, noisiest part of the pool. The day that company's name gets ripped away, who are you?She Was Hiding Behind Her Own Agency for Eight Years. Robyn was hitting consistent six figures and still stuck. She started a second business as an exit strategy. It collapsed. She was bleeding cash and wondering whether she would have to rebuild a resume for the first time in nearly a decade. The moment she put herself through her own Brand Universe framework, everything changed.Saying Yes to Everything Hurt Her Brand. Most people think saying yes is safe. Robyn says it is how you end up invisible. When she said yes to everything out of fear, the referrals that came in were misaligned. People did not know where to place her. A brand with a real point of view gives you permission to say no - and the referrals it attracts are the ones that actually fit.Demographics Pigeonhole You. Psychographics Set You Free. Erica has wrestled for years with the pull to 'go bigger' and market to everyone beyond women. Robyn's reframe: the problem is not that Erica's audience is too narrow. It is that she has been defining it by a demographic instead of a mindset. Who you are not for is often the clearest path to understanding who you are for.What Are You Fighting? One of the eight components of Robyn's Brand Point of View framework is the monster: what convention, wrong, or idea in your industry are you standing against? This is not political. It is about finding the thing your brand has a real stake in - the hill you are willing to die on. That stake is what makes a brand distinct.Do the Exact Opposite of Trends. For every Jessie Jane, there are a million people who have been yapping into a camera for years and are nowhere. Trends are about fitting in. Brands are built by standing out. The best move is to look at what everyone in your field is doing and do the exact opposite. At least you would be an original.AI Cannot Give You Your Brand Identity. If you go to AI without a brand point of view, it will give you something - but you will never have conviction in it. You cannot outsource identity. Once you have the strength and identity, AI can compound it. But the deep work has to come first.RESOURCES & LINKSBook: Build Your Brand Universe: https://www.thisisyoung.co/bookBrand Universe Accelerator: https://www.thisisyoung.co/acceleratorYoung and Co Website: https://www.thisisyoung.co/Substack: Yes& Newsletter: https://yesandnewsletter.substack.com/Robyn on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robyn-young/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the people telling you AI is going to end the world are the same people selling you the AI that could end the world - and they are doing both at the same time? Erica has been lying awake reading the headlines, thinking about her eight-year-old sleeping down the hall. And today she is naming names, bringing receipts, and taking explicit positions on the AI fear machine, what happens when women are not in the rooms where this technology gets built, and exactly what she thinks we owe the next generation right now.ABOUT THIS EPISODEThis is the spiciest solo episode Erica has ever recorded, and she knew it when she sat down at her kitchen counter to make it. She covers the extinction statement signed by the CEOs of OpenAI, Google DeepMind, and Anthropic - and the fact that they went back to the office and raced each other to build faster. She covers the $140 million super PAC with AI industry money pouring into midterms. She covers NVIDIA, China, and the contradiction at the center of the 'we can't let China win' argument. She covers the Grok image scandal - 4.4 million generated images in nine days, 41% sexualized images of women - and what it tells us about who is not in the product meetings. And she covers the stat that stops her cold: women are 57% of the workers in jobs most likely to be disrupted by AI, and 13% of the C-suite leaders at AI companies. Then she gives you three moves to make this week.INSIDE THE EPISODEShould I Actually Be Concerned About AI? Erica holds both: the AI nerd who sees what this technology can do, and the mom who wants to throw every device in the lake. She sorts the real risks from the manufactured ones and calls out the people making money off of our fear.Who Benefits When We're Scared? When the CEOs selling the product tell you it could end the world, ask one question: who benefits? Fear makes you feel small and leaves it to the tech geniuses. Fear makes them look like the only ones smart enough to save us from the very thing they are selling. That is a damn good business model.The $140 Million Super PAC. Leading the Future has reportedly raised $140 million for the midterms. Its mission: electing people who want AI rules light and one national standard that overrides tougher state laws. Donors include Andreessen Horowitz and the president of OpenAI. The industry warns about extinction. The industry's money builds a nine-figure war chest to keep the rules light.NVIDIA, China, and the Contradiction. For years the rallying cry was that we cannot let China win the AI race - so we have to move fast and keep the rules light. Then the administration said NVIDIA could sell its most powerful chips to Chinese companies, including ByteDance and Tencent, as long as the US gets a 25% cut. The first shipments landed in China this summer.Grok and What Happens When Women Aren't in the Room. xAI rolled out an image editing feature and people immediately used it to digitally undress women and girls from photos found online. In nine days: 4.4 million images generated, 41% sexualized images of women. Any woman in that product meeting could have told them that was coming. Any mom could have told them that.57% Disrupted, 13% in the Room. Women are 57% of the workers in jobs most likely to be disrupted by generative AI. Women hold 13% of C-suite AI roles at AI companies. At the rate we are going, it will take 90 years to reach equal representation in leadership. A girl born today may never see that in her lifetime.Three Moves You Can Make This Week. Start using AI and let people see you use it. Parent it loudly - have the talk with your kids, use it together, tell them what happened with Grok. Follow the money and use your voice - midterms are coming, AI money is pouring into races, opensecrets.org makes it easy. If there is no woman on your company's AI council, get yourself into that room. ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the reason you are still exhausted - even though you clean up your diet, you exercise, you sleep seven or eight hours - is not a willpower problem but a biology problem? And what if the labs that told you everything is fine were actually comparing you to the average of an unhealthy population? Jessica Van Antoine was working 90-hour weeks inside a wellness company, masking everything with caffeine, until one day in the middle of a meeting she had to excuse herself, go to her office, and curl up under her desk and cry. Functional lab testing changed everything. And now she helps high-achieving female founders do the same.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROY'all know Erica is the woman who does all the things. The diet. The sleep. The Peloton. The red light therapy mat. The crystals on the floor. And is still dragging herself through the afternoon. If that sounds like you, Jessica Van Antoine is here to tell you it is not because you are not trying hard enough. It is because you have been guessing instead of testing. Jessica is the founder of Phoenix Functional Health, a performance health practice built specifically for high-achieving female founders. She has spent nearly two decades in health and wellness - as a massage therapist, Shiatsu practitioner, yoga and Qigong instructor - and now applies functional diagnostic nutrition to help women understand the root cause of what their body is actually doing and why. The conversation covers hormones, fatigue, the D.R.E.S.S. framework, why your doctor keeps telling you everything looks fine, and the one thing she wants every exhausted woman to do this week.INSIDE THE EPISODESomething Just Snapped. Jessica was working 90-hour weeks at a wellness company - studying Chinese medicine, building a 500-hour Shiatsu certification program, and doing it all simultaneously. In a meeting, she felt like glass was cracking inside her body. She excused herself, went to her office, and cried on the floor under her desk. Functional lab testing revealed the biological imbalances predisposing her to overwhelm, fragility, and irritability. And once she resourced her body, everything felt different - not because her workload changed, but because she felt bigger than her responsibilities.Why Your Doctor Keeps Saying You're Fine. The normal ranges your traditional doctor uses are taken from the average of everyone who has ever taken that test - including a very unhealthy general population. Functional health uses a much narrower range of what actually constitutes optimal function. If you are not a significant outlier in one direction, you get told you are fine. Even if you are operating at 70% capacity instead of 95%.Your Hormones Are Downstream of Something Else. Most people treat hormone imbalance as the root cause. Jessica treats it as the signal. What is actually causing the hormonal imbalance? Is it blood sugar? Gut inflammation? Adrenal exhaustion? The systems of the body don't operate in silos - and treating only the symptom without finding the source is exactly why so many approaches don't stick.The D.R.E.S.S. Framework and Why Timing Matters. Diet, rest, exercise, stress reduction, supplementation - but personalized to what your labs actually show. One client was doing hour-long Peloton rides at 5pm and couldn't sleep. Moving the workout to the morning so her cortisol had time to come down was the only change. Now she sleeps. Jessica breaks down why this approach is completely different from generic wellness advice.You're the Asset. The reason the grinding is working against you is that you are the main asset through which everything else runs. When you show up at your kid's soccer game physically present but mentally depleted - avoiding small talk because the idea is exhausting - everyone in your life gets less of you. Including yourself. Jessica's reframe: investing in yourself is not self-care. It is protecting the asset.Stop Stacking Wellness Habits. High-achieving women do what they know to do when they have a problem. They buy the machine, the crystal, the supplement, the app. Without knowing what your body actually needs, you are just guessing and stacking habits that may not be moving the needle. The Founder Capacity Audit is how you find out what your body is actually asking for.RESOURCES & LINKSPhoenix Functional Health: https://phoenixfunctionalhealth.com/Book a Founder Capacity Audit: https://phoenixfunctionalhealth.com/contact/Jessica Van Antoine on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-van-antoine-fdnp/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the advice you have been given your entire career - just be more confident, push through the imposter syndrome, act like you belong - is not just unhelpful but actually backwards? Aoife O'Brien has spent 20 years inside corporate organizations, done over 300 podcast episodes, and written a bestselling book, and she has arrived at one very specific conclusion: we have been asking the wrong person to fix the problem. Confidence is not the starting point. It is the output of working in an environment that actually creates the conditions for it. And if your confidence is gone, the first question to ask is not what is wrong with you. It is what is wrong with your workplace.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you have ever been told to just be more confident and wondered why that advice never actually works, Aoife O'Brien has spent years researching the answer - and it is not what most people want to hear. She started her career thriving, working for companies that invested in their people and recognized their contributions. She thought every company was like that. She was wrong. Her last few corporate roles left her hollow and burnt out, passed over for promotions, experiencing misogyny, and watching her confidence erode so completely that it started affecting her life outside of work too. She spent the next several years getting her MSc in Organizational Behaviour, founding Happier at Work, building a top 2% globally ranked podcast (and Business Podcast of the Year winner), and writing Thriving Talent - an Irish Times bestseller that makes the case that the problem with work is almost never the people. It is the environment in which they are asked to perform.INSIDE THE EPISODEThe Moment She Knew She Had to Leave. Aoife was passed over for a promotion that had been promised to her - and found out when a colleague, who had become her new boss without anyone telling her, pulled her into a meeting to ask about her clients. She turned into what she calls a petulant child. She was overloaded with work, finding quiet offices to cry in at night. And then she handed in her resignation letter on the train on the way to work one morning.The Organizational Culture Hangover. A toxic boss does not just affect you in the job you are in. You carry it into the next one. Aoife describes taking a decade to recover from the impact of her first bad experience, and how the doubts it planted followed her into her next role - where she was promoted to senior leadership and told herself every story possible about why she did not really deserve it.We Fix the People Instead of Fixing the Environment. Resilience training. Imposter syndrome workshops. Confidence coaching. All of these put the work on the individual while leaving the environment that created the problem completely untouched. Aoife makes the case for looking at both - what individuals need and what organizations are responsible for creating - at the same time.The Thriving Talent Framework: Psychological Safety, Culture, Drivers, Capabilities, Leadership. Aoife walks through her framework for what organizations actually need to get right. The foundation is psychological safety - without it, nothing else works. Above that: creating cultures that don't just survive but actually enable people to do their best work, understanding what truly motivates each individual, building on real capabilities rather than ego-driven promotions, and leadership that develops people rather than leaving them alone or micromanaging them.86% of People Are Not Fulfilling Their Potential at Work. Aoife ran a LinkedIn survey. Not scientific, she acknowledges, but 86% of respondents said they did not feel like they were fulfilling their potential at work. She breaks down why - including the fact that most people cannot articulate what they are actually good at or what value they bring that is genuinely different from everyone else.If You Can't Leave Yet - Start Planning the Exit. For the woman in a toxic situation who does not have the financial means to just walk out: start making the plan. Stop tolerating it and grinding through quarters hoping it will change. It almost never does. Reach out to your people. Activate your network. And in the meantime, shift the mindset from 'I have to be here' to 'I am choosing to be here so I can fund my exit.'It Was Not Your Fault. The final question Erica asks: what would you tell the woman who is in the toxic situation and wondering if she caused it? Aoife's answer: it is not your fault. This is how the system was built. You did not choose this environment. It just happened to be where you landed.RESOURCES & LINKSBook: Thriving Talent - Aoife O'Brien: https://thrivingtalentbook.com/Happier at Work Website: https://happieratwork.ie/Happier at Work Podcast: https://happieratwork.ie/happier-at-work-podcast/Aoife O'Brien on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aoifemobrien/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the internet already showed us exactly what AI is about to do - and most of us missed the warning? Seema Alexander did not miss it. Her parents ran the first Indian vegetarian restaurant in DC. Muhammad Ali ate there. It grew to multiple locations. And then the internet happened, and they were so focused on running the business that they never saw it coming. Seema connected those dots years later - and decided she was not going to let the same thing happen to the next generation of business leaders. This is the conversation she has been building toward for four years.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROY'all know that Erica is obsessed with AI. So when she gets to sit down with someone who has been living and breathing this space from the business side - not the tech side, not the theory side, but the actual how do you rewire a real company side - she nerds out. Seema Alexander spent over two decades helping CEOs and founders grow at the intersection of brand, innovation, and community. She saw AI coming before most people were paying attention, went all in, and built Disruptive AI - a strategy and development studio helping companies rethink, reimagine, and rewire for the era we are already living in. She hosts The AI CEO Podcast, co-chairs DC Startup and Tech Week, and her keynote 'Why AI Is Bigger Than the Internet' has been delivered on stages across the country and internationally. Her mission is to equip one million CEOs with the fluency, strategy, and confidence to lead boldly into the AI era - and she is building a conference around it: AI BusinessCon, March 2-3, 2027, in the DC metro area.INSIDE THE EPISODEThe Aha, Oh Sh*t Moment. Seema calls it her 'aha, oh sh*t moment' - the day she was advising an early agentic AI company, listening to a cinematographer describe cutting his six-month storyboard process down to a click of a button, and realized: this is not about automation. This is rewiring the way business gets done. And this is the weakest the technology will ever be.AI BusinessCon: The Conference for Business Leaders, Not Builders. Most AI conferences are built for CTOs and developers. Seema is building one for the C-suite, founders, and investors who need to understand what is happening without needing a computer science degree to follow it. AI BusinessCon, March 2-3, 2027, DC metro area. Two days: big picture reality check, then practical and tactical. Come out knowing what to do next.Women and AI: Conviction Is the Strategy. Do women face an AI gap? Seema's answer is sharp: yes, there is a gender divide in most tech spaces. But the play for women is not to wait for permission. Pick your lane, go deep in it, stay on top of it, and own your conviction. Women connect dots differently - and that is exactly what this moment needs.The Great Business Rewiring: Rethink, Reimagine, Rewire. Seema's framework is not a PowerPoint. It is a three-stage process: rethink (build real fluency, understand AI like Lego pieces), reimagine (design what your business could look like with a layer of intelligence, proprietary data, and agents marketing to agents), and rewire (actually do the work). And do not AI-enable a broken workflow - fix the workflow first.Your Proprietary Data Is the New Moat. The models are commoditizing. What is not commoditizing is what you uniquely know about your customers, your industry, and your operations. Seema breaks down why proprietary data and domain expertise are the real competitive advantage - and why 'we use AI' is not a differentiator.My Parents' Restaurant and the Rise of the Internet. The most personal moment in the conversation. Seema's parents ran the first Indian vegetarian restaurant in DC - Muhammad Ali ate there. It grew to multiple locations. And then the internet happened. They were operators. They were not watching the technology. And they lost nearly everything. This is the story behind everything Seema is building.Go Deep, Go Fast, Go Quick. Seema's advice to her pre-AI self - and to every woman listening who has been putting off getting serious about this. The more you know, the more impact, profit, and community. Do not be afraid to talk. This stuff is moving fast. Go deep, go fast, go quick.RESOURCES & LINKSAI BusinessCon (March 2-3, 2027, DC Metro): https://businesscon.ai/Disruptive AI: https://getdisruptive.ai/Seema Alexander Speaker Site: https://seemaalexander.com/The AI CEO Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ai-ceo-with-seema-alexander/id1676444315Seema on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seemaalexander/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the pay gap is not just something happening to women out there in the abstract - but something happening to you, right now, in the salary band your company set before you even walked in the door? Meghan Pierce has the data. Philadelphia women are more educated than their male counterparts. They are in the workforce in strong numbers. And in some industries, they are earning less than they were before. The headline number looks like progress. The real numbers, broken down by race, by industry, by education level, tell a different story. This episode is about both: what the data actually says and what you can do about it today.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you have ever wondered whether the pay gap is actually real, or whether it applies to someone as educated and accomplished as you, Meghan Pierce has been waiting to answer that question. She is the first-ever President and CEO of the Forum of Executive Women, a Philadelphia-based organization with more than 600 senior women leaders that has been doing this work since 1977. She came to the role from the League of Women Voters of Pennsylvania, before that from policy work at New York City Hall and some of the country's most respected law firms. Every year, the Forum publishes two reports that are the only Philadelphia-specific research of their kind: the Women in Leadership Report, tracking female representation in the C-suite and boardroom, and the Pay Equity Report, which examines the gender pay gap by industry, education level, and race. This is not headline data. These are the numbers most people never see - and Meghan is here to make sure you cannot look away.INSIDE THE EPISODEThe Pay Gap Is Getting Worse - and Not for Who You Think. The overall gap is slowly closing for white women. But for women of color, it is widening. And in specific industries across Philadelphia - and nationally - it is moving in the wrong direction entirely. Meghan breaks down what the data actually shows and why the headline number is not the number you should be looking at.More Degrees. Less Pay. Women are taking on more student debt to get higher degrees and not seeing it translate into higher income. The education fix is not fixing the pay gap. Meghan explains why - and what actually does.What Erica Saw From Inside HR. As a Chief People Officer, Erica had access to the pay data most employees never see. She shares what she actually found - the RIF lists where every name was a woman, the salary band game, the moment she realized that 'that girl only asked for 80K, let's offer 75' was happening in real time - and what it taught her about how the gap gets built in from day one.The Sponsor vs. the Mentor. A mentor gives you advice. A sponsor says your name in rooms when you are not there. Meghan breaks down the difference, why having a sponsor is one of the most powerful things you can do to close your own pay gap, and what it actually takes to get one (hint: it is not asking for one).Women Are Afraid to Use AI at Work. And They're Not Wrong. Meghan's Forum has been tracking this: women are afraid to use AI at work for fear of getting in trouble. Erica confirms the data backs them up - men are more encouraged to experiment, women are judged more harshly when they do. And if the skills gap that creates compounds over time, the AI gap and the pay gap become the same gap.Nine Women CEOs Out of 100. That was the most Philadelphia had ever had in a single year. Not double digits. Nine. Meghan explains the structural, social, and policy barriers that keep women out of the top jobs - paid family leave, caretaking responsibilities, and the boards that keep picking people who look like the people who picked them.You Have Everything You Need Right Now. Meghan's advice to her younger self. Erica's response: what is meant for you will not miss you, girl. The close of this episode is the thing women need to hear when imposter syndrome is loudest.RESOURCES & LINKSForum of Executive Women: https://www.foew.com/Pay Equity Report: https://www.foew.com/pay-equity-reportWomen in Leadership Report: https://www.foew.com/women-in-leadershipMeghan Pierce on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meghanpierce/Philadelphia Citizen Article - Philadelphia Women, Still Underpaid: https://thephiladelphiacitizen.org/guest-commentary-philadelphia-women-pay-equity/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the thing that is going to change your career is not the next certification, the next platform, or the next viral moment - but getting ruthlessly honest about what you actually are? Ashley Stahl had tear gas in her eyes in Istanbul when she got the email inviting her to give a TEDx talk. She had never given a speech in her life. She propped her iPhone against a bathroom mirror, recorded herself talking, and called it a speaking reel. She got the gig. And what followed is one of the most honest frameworks for personal branding, career clarity, and trusting your own gifts that this show has ever featured.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you have been trying to build your brand by showing up everywhere and it is slowly draining the life out of you, Ashley Stahl has a different instruction. She started her career in counterterrorism under the Obama Administration, gave her very first speech ever on the TEDxBerkeley stage, and went from no speaker reel to a coaching waitlist overnight. Her second TEDx talk got 8,000 views in its first year and then two million the next - for no identifiable reason other than it was exactly what she had to say. She is the bestselling author of You Turn: Get Unstuck, Discover Your Direction, and Design Your Dream Career, the founder of Wise Whisper Agency - which has helped clients generate over 30 million YouTube views from TEDx talks alone - and she is here to tell you that the internet rewards specificity, not volume. Pick your island. Say what you have to say. Say it loud. Then let it carry you.INSIDE THE EPISODEShe Had Tear Gas in Her Eyes When She Got the TEDx Email. Ashley was sitting in a government protest in Taksim Square in Istanbul when her friend texted: 'Hey, I got you a TEDx talk.' She had never spoken publicly in her life. She googled 'speaking reel,' filmed herself on an iPhone in a bathroom, and sent it in. She got the gig. This is what saying yes before you are ready actually looks like.You Don't Find Your Purpose. You Come Upon It. Most people treat purpose like a destination. Ashley says it is a calibration. The people who really figure it out do not have linear careers. They have been in the experiment. They have used every chapter as a vehicle to get clearer on their gifts - even when the chapter looked completely wrong from the outside.The Personal Brand Island Framework. The internet is not one place. It is islands - TEDx, podcasting, Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube, Substack. Most people try to build on all of them at once and burn out producing content they do not believe in. Ashley's instruction: pick one island, master it for a year, build a workflow, and move to the next one only when you are ready.Your Money Follows Your Gift. Ashley knows she is a writer. All her money is word money. If you look at where your income is actually coming from, it will tell you more about your real skillset than any assessment ever could. Pick platforms that let your gift lead, not platforms that require a gift you do not have.8,000 Views. Then Two Million. Ashley's second TEDx got almost no traction in year one. She knew it was her best work. She did not change a thing. Year two: two million views. The lesson is not about the algorithm. It is about consistency and commitment being almost impossible to sustain if you do not actually believe in what you are saying.Your Intuition Can Only See 0.01% of What Is Real. Humans see 0.0035% of the electromagnetic spectrum. We cannot see radio waves, microwaves, infrared, X-rays, gamma. And yet most of us make all our decisions based on what we can prove with our 0.01% eyeballs. Ashley makes the case that intuition is not woo. It is an intelligence system. And ignoring it is as absurd as insisting radio waves do not exist because you cannot see them.If You're Walking Through Hell, Keep Walking. Churchill. Don't change your postal code for your bad feelings. Ashley's entire framework for getting through the hard chapters of life and career is this: sit in the feeling, extract the lesson, and keep moving. Victim mode is an alarm - a signal to get curious, not to stay stuck.RESOURCES & LINKSWise Whisper Agency: https://wisewhisperagency.com/Book: You Turn: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1950665690Ashley on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleystahl/Ashley on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ashleystahl/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the most damaging thing that ever happened to you was not the dramatic moment - the affair, the rehab call, the divorce papers - but the slow, invisible erosion of yourself that happened so gradually you did not even notice until you were already gone? Dana Killion spent 25 years in a marriage to a high-functioning alcoholic who also had a secret sexual life. She did not collapse. She did not run. She did the work of trying to understand, trying to rebuild, and eventually trying to save herself. And then she wrote about all of it - so no woman ever has to go through it alone again.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you have ever set yourself aside for someone else's pain and looked up one day to find you had completely disappeared - Dana Killion wrote this episode for you. She is the author of Where the Shadows Dance and the upcoming Becoming Unbreakable: A Big Sister's Guide to Trauma, out September 2026. A former apparel industry executive who turned to writing first as escape and then as purpose, Dana has survived the collapse of a long marriage, the loss of both parents, a cross-country reinvention, and the death of her eldest son. She now works as what she calls a trauma big sister - not a therapist, not a coach, but someone who has been through it and will hold your hand while you find your way through too. This one is going to stay with people.INSIDE THE EPISODEHe Got Sober. She Got Broken. The line on Dana's website that stops everyone cold - and the one Erica starts with. When your entire life is organized around keeping someone else alive, you disappear. Dana breaks down how that happens, why it happens below the surface of awareness, and what it feels like to suddenly see yourself clearly for the first time in years.The Secret Life She Did Not Know About. While her husband was in rehab finally taking his sobriety seriously, Dana learned he had also been living a secret sexual life - a large number of partners she had never known about. She walks through what it is like when the ground shifts under 25 years of memory all at once.This Is Trauma Too. Most people think of trauma as a sudden, acute event. Chronic, quiet, invisible trauma - the kind that comes from decades of loving someone who is slowly destroying themselves - does not look the same. Dana took years to name what had happened to her as trauma. She gives every woman listening permission to do the same.I Will Not Let This Man Destroy Me. Lying in bed night after night, Dana repeated this to herself until it became the foundation of everything she built next. Determination that looked like stubbornness. A refusal to become one of the women she had seen who never recovered. This is the turning point.Why Am I Staying? Not a one-time question. A daily one. Dana filed for divorce and yanked the papers. She ran out the door and came back. She makes the case that none of this is failure - it is the non-linear, painful, honest work of a woman trying to figure out who she is and what she can live with.Each Trauma Built the Tools for the Next. Dana lost her son three years ago. It was the most recent of the traumas and the most devastating. But she found herself handling it with what she describes as more ease than she expected - because every previous loss had quietly built something in her. That is the thesis of Becoming Unbreakable.RESOURCES & LINKSPre-order Becoming Unbreakable (Sept 2026): https://amzn.to/4f7x9XTWhere the Shadows Dance (memoir): https://www.danakillion.com/Dana Killion Website: https://www.danakillion.com/Dana on Substack: https://danakillion.substack.com/LinkedIn: Dana Killion: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dana-killion-936214263/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney

What if the hardest thing you have ever been through is not something that happened to you - but something that was always going to make you? Sara Schulting Kranz was blindsided by divorce, betrayal, single motherhood, and the complete collapse of the life she had built. She was 40, across the country from her family, with no career, no clear path, and three boys watching her figure it out. She did not go around it. She developed a five-stage framework for walking through it - and has since used it with Fortune 500 executives, professional athletes, and a blind female para-athlete she guided rim to rim in 24 hours. This episode is about what it actually takes to get through the thing that looks like it is going to break you.SUMMARY & GUEST INTROIf you are standing at the edge of a change you did not choose - a divorce, a career collapse, a loss, a life that no longer fits - Sara Schulting Kranz has walked the canyon you are looking into. She is a bestselling author, keynote speaker, certified executive coach, and elite adventurer who has spent 32 years building and living her five-stage framework for navigating change. Her book is called Walk Through This. Her tagline is 'The way out is forward.' And in this episode, she brings the full weight of her own story and her decades of work guiding others to help you understand exactly where you are in the change process - and what to do next.INSIDE THE EPISODEThe Labor Day Weekend That Changed Everything. Sara was beyond rock bottom. She had moments of wanting to end her life. Her friends took her to Sequoia National Park, a friend put rocks in her pack, and she climbed to an outcropping of rock, looked out at the valley below, and felt completely disconnected from the problems she had been carrying for a year. That was the moment everything shifted - from 'I am a victim' to 'I am going to thrive on the other side of this.'What We Fear Is Our Greatest Success. Stage one of Sara's framework is approaching the change - and the biggest resistance most people feel is not actually to the difficulty ahead. It is to the success that might be waiting for them. Sara breaks down why that is, what it looks like, and why courage is the only thing that develops confidence.Blame as a Form of Control. In stage two - descending into the change - blame shows up almost every time. Sara explains why: when everything feels out of control, blame gives people the illusion of getting some control back. The move out of blame and into ownership is where the real transformation begins.The Three Types of People Going Through Change. The wait and seer. The resistor. And the let's goer. Sara shares why high-achieving women are constantly assumed to be let's goers - and why that assumption is one of the most costly ones made about us. You cannot pour from an empty cup. Taking care of yourself is not optional. It is the only real leadership move.Every Time She Does the Hard, It Gives Her Permission to Do the Other Hard. Sara sold her house and 98% of her possessions in 2017. She went from 4,200 square feet to 800. She has spent at least seven nights alone in the wilderness every year since. She hiked the John Muir Trail for 22 days in 2020. Not because she had to - but because choosing the hard thing on purpose builds the resilience to face the hard things that choose you.With My Last Breath. Sara's mother was her best friend. She died in 2022. They used to talk about regret. When Sara thinks about what matters, it always comes back to one thing: when I take my last breath, I want to know I lived it my way. This is the question she leaves every listener with.RESOURCES & LINKSBook: Walk Through This - Sara Schulting Kranz: https://saraschultingkranz.com/Sara Schulting Kranz Website: https://saraschultingkranz.com/Email Sara: [email protected]: Sara Schulting Kranz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sara-schulting-kranz/ ERICA'S RESOURCES & LINKSStart small with me inside HER Jumpstart:https://her-collective.mn.co/plans/1985289?bundle_token=60b2c61d62213cdbd16d437cdc0e4204&utm_source=manual🤖 Grab your copy of THE AI GAP: https://amzn.to/3OAXAdL📚 Get my first book, Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors: https://amzn.to/4uvjbE5💼 Follow me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/📸 Follow me on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/🎵 Check out my TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@ericaandersonrooney