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Inside Keir Starmer's plan to remain PM till 2027

19/05/2026
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  • Scoop: Keir Starmer thinks he can remain prime minister till 2027, even if Andy Burnham wins in Makerfield...And if Burnham loses, what then?
  • Fear and loathing in Number 10: we have details about the extraordinary levels of anger at the top of government.
  • Makerfield is the most consequential by-election in history. Can Andy Burnham win in this pro-Brexit, anti-establishment seat? He's pitching himself as the anti-politics candidate, while simultaneously plotting his route to Downing Street.
  • And if he does win, what will he do with power? Could he end up as a Keir Starmer in running shorts?


Steven Swinford, political editor, The Times

Patrick Maguire, chief political commentator, The Times

Lara Spirit, deputy political editor, The Sunday Times


Producers: Euan Dawtrey, Harry Kitson

Executive producer: Molly Guinness


Picture credit: Getty Images

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