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To survive hustle culture, family and career pressures and world affairs we often decompress with social media, our phones or alcohol. In this episode Jennifer talks with social entrepreneur, author and cyclical wisdom devotee Madeleine Shaw about the gift of sobriety in a culture that just wants to take the edge off.  

In this intimate and honest conversation, they explore- 

  • The rise of hustle culture and #GirlBoss 
  • How drinking is a socially accepted prescription for exhaustion + burnout 
  • The question you should (and shouldn’t) ask about any addictive tendency
  • What actually helps to ‘take the edge off’

Join Jennifer and Madeleine for a heart-opening conversation on how to face the messy middle of “gray area” drinking  and attune to what deeply nourishes our bodies, minds and relationships instead. 

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Gratitude for this show’s theme song Inside the House, composed by the talented Yukon musician, multi-instrumentalist and sound artist Jordy Walker. Artwork by the imaginative writer, filmmaker and artist Jon Marro.

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