The Systems Thinking Process Used by the Most Adaptable Product Leaders (with Sheryl Cababa, Author of Closing the Loop)

Product-market fit isn’t enough anymore. In an age where AI is making it easier for anyone to ship a half-decent product, the real battleground is distribution. Margaret-Ann Seger (Head of Product at Statsig) joins Hannah Clark to talk about how AI is reshaping go-to-market strategy, why speed and feedback loops are becoming product differentiators, and how her team at Statsig is baking collaboration and empathy into every part of their product dev cycle.From lo-fi GTM experiments to the power of doing support as a PM, this episode is packed with practical ways to ship smarter—and more human—products, faster.Resources from this episode:Subscribe to The Product Manager newsletterConnect with Margaret on LinkedInCheck out Statsig

What if instead of racing to solve problems, you paused to map the entire system first? In this episode, Hannah sits down with Sheryl Cababa—author of Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for Designers and founder of Optimistic Design—to talk about what it really means to design for complexity. From AI adoption to organizational policy changes, Sheryl brings a systems lens to the decisions leaders make (often too hastily) in fast-moving environments.They explore how design leaders can avoid short-sighted thinking, better understand stakeholder dynamics, and use accessible tools to facilitate organizational change that actually sticks. Whether you're planning your back-to-office strategy or rethinking your product's impact, this conversation will leave you re-evaluating how your decisions ripple through the system.Resources from this episode:Subscribe to The Product Manager newsletterConnect with Sheryl on LinkedInSheryl’s book — Closing the Loop: Systems Thinking for DesignersCheck out Optimistic Design 

Two seasoned executive coaches, Carolyn Dolezal and Kate Leto, share candid insights on the realities of executive leadership and how to truly earn the trust and confidence of your team and stakeholders. They debunk common myths and explore how personal agendas can undermine leadership effectiveness, while offering practical advice for building influence even when the odds aren’t in your favor.The conversation also covers how to recover from early leadership missteps and develop the skills needed to lead authentically at the highest levels. Whether you’re already in the C-suite or aspiring to get there, their expert guidance will transform your approach to leadership starting today.Resources from this episode:Subscribe to The Product Manager newsletterConnect with Carolyn and Kate on LinkedInCheck out ASUG and Kate’s website