E285: The Lower Middle Market: Where Private Equity Still Generates Alpha

How does one of the world’s largest pension funds shift its culture, governance, and investment process at scale? David Weisburd speaks with Nicole about her transition from Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan to serving as CIO of CalPERS, implementing a total portfolio approach, and leading organizational change during a period of market and operational disruption. Nicole shares lessons on governance, board alignment, co-investing, and building long-term investment institutions.

Why have consumer startups fallen out of favor and why might that be the biggest opportunity of the next decade? In this episode, I talk with Brian O’Malley, founder of Tactile Ventures, about why consumer investing is deeply misunderstood and how AI is unlocking a new wave of products that improve everyday American lives. Brian shares lessons from two decades investing at Accel, Battery, and Forerunner, why incentives—not talent—drive venture outcomes, and how the best consumer companies blend technology, business models, and human behavior. We also explore why AI is moving out of its “toy phase,” why humans still need to stay in the loop, and how early-stage investors win by giving founders something large platforms can’t: time.

Why does today’s venture market feel increasingly untethered from historical precedent? David Weisburd speaks with Narayan Chowdhury about structural shifts in venture capital, the limits of data-driven decision-making, and how founders and investors navigate an unusually noisy and fragmented market. Narayan shares how access, trust, and long-term relationships are becoming more important as traditional signals lose reliability.

Why did private credit secondaries emerge, and what problem do they solve for investors? David Weisburd speaks with Rakesh Jain about building one of the world’s largest private credit secondary platforms at Pantheon, the mechanics of liquidity in private markets, and how seasoned portfolios differ from primary credit origination. Rick explains how diversification, underwriting discipline, and alignment shape risk-adjusted outcomes across cycles.

How do you raise $875M in one of the hardest fundraising markets in decades and still outperform on DPI, IRR, and culture? In this episode, I sit down with Jesse D. Serventi and Atif Gilani, Founding Partners of Renovus Capital Partners, to unpack what actually compounds in private equity over 15+ years. We break down why staying in the lower end of the lower middle market creates structural advantage, how talent density became their real edge, and why portfolio construction—not deal hype—is the hidden driver of net returns. Jesse and Atif also share how Renovus evolved from three founders doing everything into a scaled firm built to last decades, not cycles.

What separates enduring investment firms from those that quietly break as they scale? In this episode, I talk with Chris Brimsek, Managing Partner of CAB Advisory, about the unseen mechanics behind building durable alternative investment firms. Drawing from his experience as Chief of Staff to David Rubenstein and former COO of Carlyle’s $15B Infrastructure & Energy business, Chris explains why culture, judgment transfer, and succession—not deal mechanics—are the true bottlenecks to long-term performance. We unpack how elite leaders create environments without intellectual hierarchy, why forgiveness builds trust faster than perfection, and how emerging managers can avoid the most common traps as they scale.

How well do venture capital returns really reflect skill versus structure? In this episode, David Weisburd speaks with Abe about what large-scale AngelList data reveals about seed investing, power-law returns, and why traditional assumptions around expected value, conviction, and diversification often break down. Abe explains how adverse selection shapes outcomes, why access matters more than insight, and where data-driven strategies may — and may not — apply in venture capital.

What does it take to build an investment firm outside the traditional private equity model? David Weisburd speaks with Jeff Schwartz about founding Corbel Capital Partners, identifying opportunities in the lower middle market, and why structured capital fills a gap left by banks and large buyout firms. Jeff discusses the operational realities of scaling an investment platform, fundraising challenges, and how market inefficiencies continue to shape strategy selection.

How do family offices approach investing differently from institutional capital? David Weisburd speaks with Robert about building Align, identifying gaps between capital and resources in family offices, and why downside protection shapes every investment decision. Robert discusses private credit, opportunistic investing, shorter-duration strategies, and how collaboration among families creates a distinct and disciplined investment ecosystem.

What happens when the marginal cost of intelligence approaches zero? David Weisburd speaks with Richard Socher about building U.com, the evolution of AI search and agents, and why infrastructure—not hype—will determine AI’s real economic impact. Richard shares a first-principles view on where AI creates value, how enterprises are deploying agents today, and what long-term shifts in labor, productivity, and education may follow.