Prince vs the symbol

Brian and Murdock investigate the story behind one of the biggest hitmakers of the 70s and try to uncover the answers to two mysteries: why their singer and guitarist couldn't get along, and why their legacy doesn't always get taken seriously.See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mick_Jones_(Foreigner_guitarist)https://rockcellarmagazine.com/lou-gramm-foreigner-live-at-the-rainbow-78-interview-legacy/https://billboardchartrewind.wordpress.com/2020/05/09/the-ultimate-2-hits-on-the-billboard-hot-100/https://www.loudersound.com/features/foreigner-first-time-aroundhttps://blabbermouth.net/news/lou-gramm-says-mick-joness-greed-was-reason-he-didnt-get-songwriting-credit-on-foreigners-i-want-to-know-what-love-ishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Want_to_Know_What_Love_Ishttps://web.archive.org/web/20140101012022/http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/features/the-story-of-foreigners-i-want-to-know-what-love-ishttps://www.njarts.net/lou-gramm-discusses-successes-and-struggles-of-a-remarkable-career/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_Provocateur_(album)https://blabbermouth.net/news/lou-gramm-i-dont-understand-how-they-can-be-touring-with-no-original-members-and-still-calling-themselves-foreignerhttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-08-02-vl-1707-story.htmlhttps://ultimateclassicrock.com/lou-gramm-shadow-king-interview-2021/?utm_source=tsmclip&utm_medium=referralDave Paulson’s concept album about Tommy Boy: https://open.spotify.com/album/5f2CjLEGOIUJrV8rb1R2L3?si=CRNKNU6JTJOYwBqC8UiofASee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig deep to understand the circumstances that led Prince to feel punished for over-performance, quit music, pronounce himself dead, and come back as a... symbol.See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-prince-changed-his-name-to-a-symbol/https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-36107590https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/8908921/what-does-princes-symbol-mean-who-owns-his-music-and-why-did-he-change-his-name/https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/prince-name-change-love-symbol-25th-anniversary-explained-warner-brothers-dispute-a8385801.htmlhttps://medium.com/behance-blog/the-man-behind-the-symbol-minneapolis-creative-talks-about-collaborating-with-prince-4e644d76ed29https://musebycl.io/backstory/miradas-mitch-monson-olympic-branding-shape-water-and-princes-love-symbolhttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/andy-warhol-copyright-prince-fair-use-180982230/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Princehttps://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/features/prince-name-change-love-symbol-25th-anniversary-explained-warner-brothers-dispute-a8385801.htmlhttps://goldiesparade.co.uk/new-power-generation/https://bbs.boingboing.net/t/how-the-data-was-extracted-from-the-prince-floppy-disk-and-uploaded-to-the-internet-archive/209475/29?page=2https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Most_Beautiful_Girl_in_the_World_(Prince_song) https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbyowsinski/2014/04/21/prince-comes-back-to-warner-bros-and-shows-the-boundaries-of-diy/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig into mid-80's Prince - his projects (released AND unreleased), bands, drug buddies, and obsessions - to figure out what led him to get VERY involved in creating an official album about the Caped Crusader.See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman_(album)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BatdanceWrecka Stow scene from Under the Cherry Moon: https://youtu.be/kbPo47TI8xs?si=NVjUfNx9pxTcorlxhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Album_(Prince_album)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_o%27_the_Timeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreleased_Prince_projectshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Around_the_World_in_a_Dayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parade_(Prince_album)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Factory_(album)https://ultimateprince.com/prince-dream-factory-unreleased-album/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dez_Dickersonhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/princes-first-guitarist-dez-dickerson-looks-back/https://www.housequake.com/dez-dickerson-interview/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendy_Melvoinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Coleman_(musician)https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-did-prince-fire-the-revolutionhttps://enews.topnewsource.com/?p=6169https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/the-revolutions-wendy-melvoin-talks-grieving-for-prince-spring-tour-116224/https://theconversation.com/the-artist-formerly-known-as-camille-princes-lost-album-comes-out-189486https://pitchfork.com/features/article/9882-how-princes-androgynous-genius-changed-the-way-we-think-about-music-and-gender/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_Ball_(unreleased_album)https://ultimateprince.com/revolution-prince/https://www.reddit.com/r/PRINCE/comments/1ft29d3/the_lore_of_prince_abandoning_the_black_album_for/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovesexyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingrid_Chavezhttps://nypost.com/2021/08/23/prince-biography-tells-how-rockers-pill-addiction-began/Our Lenny Kravitz/Ingrid Chavez episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7zWn4e3u9VLT9PujqRyxFD?si=5sV_Lcl_RCCP1jFFfrVlTw https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/prince-talks-189956/https://www.theringer.com/2022/03/04/movies/prince-batman-soundtrack-oral-history-batdanceSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock unravel the story of how the first band on MTV briefly became part of prog rock pioneers YES - and how it almost ruined everything...See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Buggleshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kung_Fu_Fightinghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bidduhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Lane_(manager)https://www.loudersound.com/features/the-managers-that-built-prog-former-yes-manager-brian-lane-reminiscehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tormatohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drama_(Yes_album)https://www.rhino.com/article/5-things-you-may-not-have-known-about-yess-dramaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dust for fingerprints through the last 25 years of pop music trying figure out what happened to two people who created one of the biggest hits of the late '90s.See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)SHOW NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danielle_Briseboishttps://www.newspapers.com/article/the-greenville-news-danielle-brisebois-b/100962358/?locale=en-UShttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075097/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_in_0_q_the%2520premonitionThe Premonition (full movie): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGMQwWpv7L8https://www.instagram.com/p/C0g6TkUOH7f/https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-republic-danielle-brisebois-on-archi/100962099/?locale=en-UShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Strousehttps://tedium.co/2024/08/25/new-radicals-gregg-alexander-history/Kevin & Bean interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZV0i4lPhxAhttps://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/found-star-new-radicals-gregg-739434/https://www.realgonerocks.com/2009/11/gregg-alexander-intoxifornication/https://popsublime.blogspot.com/2010/09/music-of-gregg-alexander.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_NowelsNew Radicals on All That: https://youtu.be/lPDlG5bjPyA?si=2OpXf0Y-ds4FAiGLhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Radicalshttps://www.theringer.com/2021/1/20/22241467/new-radicals-history-you-get-what-you-givehttps://intermediaries.wordpress.com/tag/new-radicals/https://news.pollstar.com/1998/12/21/new-radicals/https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/new-radicalsThe press release Gregg writes: https://web.archive.org/web/20121110110511/https://www.prnewswire.co.uk/news-releases/new-radicals-dissolves-156295355.html https://www.detroitnews.com/story/entertainment/music/2024/08/23/new-radicals-return-with-new-music-for-first-time-in-25-years/74915946007/https://www.theverge.com/2016/4/21/11477490/sing-street-john-carney-interview-once-begin-againGregg Alexander songs he wrote for others playlist: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4YBo9X6uPktenqruUjFQNThttps://www.theguardian.com/culture/2024/mar/18/natasha-bedingfield-how-we-made-unwrittenSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys go on one of their wildest rides to date - connecting The Rolling Stones, 80's punk, murder, and jazz guitar.See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)Win tickets to Louder Than Life 2026! Just send us your (totally made up) fake history of a band on the bill. Make us laugh and you could win 4-Day GA passes! Email [email protected] NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Jovehttps://www.popvalley.co.uk/p/echoes-the-death-of-peter-ivers-andhttps://www.popvalley.co.uk/p/echoes-the-death-of-peter-ivers-and-874https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Ivershttps://daily.bandcamp.com/features/peter-ivers-becoming-peter-ivers-interviewhttps://www.deuceofclubs.com/books/291peter_ivers.htmhttps://www.instagram.com/p/DRfnFACEgVK/https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/27/an-einstein-among-neanderthals-the-tragic-prince-of-la-counterculturehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotus_Weinstockhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones%27_Redlands_busthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones%27_Redlands_busthttps://vocal.media/beat/she-had-a-mars-bar-wherehttps://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/players/5645-who-killed-lenny-breau-4.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Breauhttps://www.reddit.com/r/thelema/comments/1hbe439/picked_up_this_record_by_david_jove_recently/Peter and The Acid King - Penelope Spheeris podcast - https://open.spotify.com/show/2XzPtqqdYPpBquMLdinhpe?si=51662add4d1c4333Transcripts: https://podcasts.happyscribe.com/imagine-audio-peter-and-the-acid-king/peter-and-the-acid-king-theorieshttps://offscreen.com/view/in-heaven-everything-is-fineJove - Never Say Never - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngUwh_rbtyE https://ifrqfm.substack.com/p/terminal-loveThe Josh Frank book: https://www.amazon.com/Heaven-Everything-Fine-Unsolved-History/dp/1416551204https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/c3guj9/who_killed_peter_ivers/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys get into the backstory behind two of the most powerful women in rock and the biggest obstacle they've faced - each other.See the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)Win tickets to Louder Than Life 2026! Just send us your (totally made up) fake history of a band on the bill. Make us laugh and you could win 4-Day GA passes! Email [email protected] NOTES:The oral history: https://www.amazon.com/Kicking-Dreaming-Story-Heart-Soul/dp/0062101684https://www.guitarworld.com/news/ann-nancy-wilson-heart-updatehttps://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/may/14/heart-singer-ann-wilson-success-was-a-faustian-bargain-we-madehttps://1001-songs.blogspot.com/2013/04/interview-with-magic-man-mike-fisher-of.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Wilsonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magazine_(Heart_album)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Queenhttps://www.dreampathpodcast.com/episodes/michael-roger-fisher-two/https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/heart-can-ann-and-nancy-wilson-go-on-after-family-assault-115109/https://wror.com/2022/04/12/ann-and-nancy-wilson-no-feud-but-there-is-split/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Brian and Murdock dig into the story behind the most infamous SNL performance-gone-haywire, and figure out how it weirdly connected a king of comedy, a premier provocateur, and the ultimate torchbearer of punk authenticity.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)Win tickets to Louder Than Life 2026! Just send us your (totally made up) fake history of a band on the bill. Make us laugh and you could win 4-Day GA passes! Email [email protected] NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_(book)openculture.com/2025/10/the-night-john-belushi-booked-the-punk-band-fear-on-snl-1981.htmlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Belushihttps://diffuser.fm/john-belushi-fear-snl/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Wave_Theatrehttps://www.goldminemag.com/articles/spreading-fear-since-the-1970s/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_(band)https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-features/inside-john-belushis-long-lost-punk-song-with-fear-73830/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neighbors_(1981_film)https://ultimateclassicrock.com/john-belushi-fear-snl/Ian McKaye telling story about SNL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssNYb7HFUvEhttps://deadline.com/2025/01/the-real-story-fear-snl-1236258816/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys finally get to a stack of letters about Paul Westerberg and The Replacements and untangle the tale of the time that the Twin Cities ne'er-do-wells took their inferiority complex onto national TV.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)Win tickets to Louder Than Life 2026! Just send us your (totally made up) fake history of a band on the bill. Make us laugh and you could win 4-Day GA passes! Email [email protected] NOTES:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Replacements_(band)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Stinsonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Westerberghttps://www.amazon.com/Trouble-Boys-True-Story-Replacements/dp/0306825368https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Stinsonhttps://www.thecurrent.org/feature/2023/11/14/peter-jespersons-colorful-new-memoir-shares-music-business-thrills-and-spillsJesperson interview on Licorice Pizza TV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3WBS_hvrVA&t=3087sThe Replacements performance: https://www.reddit.com/r/punk/comments/1p4dwjl/snl_musical_performance_bastards_of_young_january/https://uproxx.com/indie/rivals-revisited-rem-the-replacements-up-tim-reissues/https://www.reddit.com/r/indieheads/comments/l1nc3r/inside_the_replacements_disastrous_snl_debut/https://snl.fandom.com/wiki/Elvis_Costellohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_RadioSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The guys do their best to answer the often-asked question about what happened to dismantle the (80% Canadian) American instituion - The Band.Support the show on PatreonSee the show on YouTubeVisit the show on InstagramVisit the show on FacebookSign up for Brian's daily FIVE SONGS email! (It's free!)Win tickets to Louder Than Life 2026! Just send us your (totally made up) fake history of a band on the bill. Make us laugh and you could win 4-Day GA passes! Email [email protected] NOTEShttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_They_Drove_Old_Dixie_Downhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Cause_of_the_ConfederacyTestimony by Robbie Robertson: https://www.amazon.com/Testimony-Robbie-Robertson/dp/0307889785Big Pink on VBRO: https://www.vrbo.com/3970069hahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Pinkhttps://theband.hiof.no/history/band_shortstory.htmlhttps://www.britannica.com/story/when-dylan-went-electrichttps://dontforgetthesongs365.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/jemima-surrender-and-the-endless-royalty-battle-for-songwriting-credits-between-robbie-robertson-and-the-band/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levon_(song)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Manuelhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levon_Helmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Dankohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garth_Hudsonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Band_(album)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Wheel%27s_on_FireLevonHelm_and_the_Story_of_the_Bandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_WaltzThe car blog: http://phscollectorcarworld.blogspot.com/2018/12/lost-star-cars-wrecks-of-band.htmlhttps://www.reddit.com/r/bobdylan/comments/12n652b/i_find_it_curious_bob_never_really_collaborated/Joe Forno Jr, Interview: https://medium.com/@jeremylr/how-robbie-robertson-almost-reunited-with-levon-helm-and-the-band-2e77f8521416https://www.grunge.com/1364351/robbie-robertson-complicated-history-the-band/https://glidemagazine.com/102076/the-feud-that-just-wont-end-did-levon-helms-wife-keep-robbie-robertson-from-participating-in-grammys-tribute/https://www.salon.com/2020/05/23/robbie-robertson-the-band-once-were-brothers/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.