377: Copper Canyons Endurance Runs

"People are referring to me as a medical miracle." Jo Giese is an award-winning journalist, author, and lifelong hiker who knows firsthand the wild ups and downs of adventure. In this episode, Jo chats with Luis about where she loves to hike, her love of waterfalls, her new memoir, You'll Never Walk Alone, her life changing accident, her determination and grit, getting around without an Achilles, finding her path, getting herself whole again, her trip to Bhutan, making the audio recording for her new book, Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Jo Giese Contact Info: IG: https://www.instagram.com/giesejo/ Website: https://www.jogiese.com Email: [email protected] Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"Highest high alpine environments where nothing can live naturally all the way down to lush jungle forest ripe with every type of plant and animal and water flying downhill everywhere." Meghan Hicks is an accomplished ultrarunner and iRunFar.com's Editor-in-Chief. Anna Frost is a professional mountain, trail and ultra runner. In this episode Meghan and Anna chat with Luis about Bhutan, the Snowman Trek, making her way through the Trans Bhutan Trail, the terrain of Bhutan, having a guide, the history of the Trans Bhutan Trail, the unexpected things that happened on the trail, getting sick, and how to see their daily posts documenting the journey. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Meghan Hicks Contact Info: IG: https://www.instagram.com/annafrosty FB: https://www.facebook.com/annafrosty/ https://fastestknowntime.com/fkt/rinzin-dorji-anna-frost-meghan-hicks-trans-bhutan-trail-2025-11-15 Anna Frost Contact Info: https://www.annafrosty.org iRun Far: https://www.irunfar.com/about-irunfar/meghan-hicks Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"The beauty of trail running, as massive as some of these distances are, is that they are always so different." James Nalley, John Pipolo, and Nick Allen are trail runners who joined Luis at his Tierra Redonda Trail Run. In this episode, James, John, and Nick chat with Luis about how they got into running, running 100 milers and beyond, finding the value of rest, their experiences at the Tierra Redonda Trail Run, the last Person Standing running format, the course, dealing with weather, advice for running this style of format, winning the race, and run coaching with James. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com James Nalley Contact Info: www.lonewolfendurancecoaching.com IG: @jnalleyultrarunner John Pipolo Contact Info: [email protected] IG: @john_pipolo Nick Allen Contact Info: IG: https://www.instagram.com/nicksallen/ Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"I came across the Wander Project, which is a non-profit organization that helps runners raise funds, raise awareness for a cause close to them through different endurance events." Zander Chase is a runner, a student at Berkely College studying for his MBA in Climate Solutions, and Executive Director of the Wander Project. In this episode, Zander chats with Luis about trail running, travelling around, how he met Jeff, how he found the Wander Project, fundraising, how the Wander Project works, being a runner with the Wander Project, and how to get involved. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Zander Chase Contact Info: https://www.wanderproject.org/ https://wanderproject.substack.com/ IG: @wanderproject18 @zchase11 Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"One of the first lessons that I learned as being a master of ceremonies is to never pass the mic." Justin Manning is a master of ceremonies, NY Mets Host, mainstage MC, sport announcer, and author. In this episode, Justin chats with Luis about bringing the hype, being an announcer, Spartan Races, where he is from, his connection to baseball, how he got the NY Mets gig, how to handle unhappy fans, his thoughts on the LA Dodgers, folks throwing out the first pitch, improvisation, failing spectacularly, and how he maintains his level of energy and positivity. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Justin Manning Contact Info: [email protected] IG: https://www.instagram.com/jtmtalks/?hl=en @jtmtalks Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"If you really take fitness seriously and you train regularly; you can really reduce the amount of decline you are going to experience." Jeffrey Weiss is an endurance athlete and author of the new book Racing Against Time. In this episode, Jeffrey chats with Luis about how he got started running, the running community in Tel Aviv, learning about how to run, about his book Racing Against Time, why he wrote it, what he has learned in 63 years on Earth, stepping outside your comfort zone, the Midnight Express race in Tahoe, what he has coming up next, his morning routine, and some books he suggests. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Jeffrey Weiss Contact Info: Book: Racing Against Time on Amazon Website - https://www.jeffreyweissauthor.com Linked-In - www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-l-weiss Instagram - @jeffrey.weiss.9400 Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"Why it's important for us personally is to share." In this special group episode, Raul Martin, Rae Johnson, Mark Wieneke, Kimberly Miller, Michael Miller, Vincente chat with Luis about their experience in the Copper Canyons, hanging with the Tarahumara, children's race, the structure of the Copper Canyons Endurance Runs, access for hikers, sweat lodges, the spiritual connection, what to expect if you go on this adventure, how you end your days there, and the frog story by Michael Miller. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"For me the biggest issue is the overpopulation so, we will treat any animals for anything that I do have medications for while we are there." Shannon Dawkins is a veterinarian doctor working with animals down in the Copper Canyons. She founded a non-profit called Compassion Copper Canyon. In this episode Luis chats with Shannon about her work, why her work with animals is so important, dog diseases, street dog life, adopting a dog, solutions, why spay and neutering dogs is important, how you can help, and where to contact her. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Dr. Shannon Dawkins, D.V.M Contact Info: [email protected] compassioncoppercanyon.com www.DrShannonDawkins.isagenix.com Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com    

"I would love to see the sport grow in northern California and just to get more awareness and participation. I'd love to see more burros get homes." Jenifer Rishel trains mustangs and burros. In this episode, Jenifer chats with Luis about managing wild horses, how she trains them, how to adopt them, her personal running, Burney Mountain 100, Intermountain Endurance, difference between a donkey, a burro, and a mule, the organization Nor Cal Pack Burros, adopting burros, running with donkeys, Weekend at Burney, renting out burros for running, and what is burro racing. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Jenifer Rishel Contact Info: IG: @intermountain_endurance_runs @norcalpackburros Email: [email protected] [email protected] Website: intermountainendurance.com https://www.auburnstatetheatre.org/ Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com

"When we go run a hundred mile run or a 50k and you get some buckle or award at the end. There is nothing for us to do this. This is all just personal goals." Ursula Hall, Micky Cecil, Ellen Adamo, and Brad Guy are run streakers. A run streaker is someone who runs at least one mile consecutively every day. In this episode, the group chats with Luis about run streaks, how many days in each person is in, how keeping the streak alive is super tough, what they have learned from the experience, unusual places they find themselves running, how they inspire others, advise for folks starting a streak, the positives they see in doing streaks, getting proposed to at a race, and what groups they are a part of. Support Road Dog Podcast by: 1. Joining the Patreon Community: https://www.patreon.com/roaddogpodcast 2. Subscribe to the podcast on whatever platform you listen on. GO SLEEVES: https://gokinesiologysleeves.com HAMMER NUTRITION show code: Roaddoghn20 Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.hammernutrition.com DRYMAX show code: Roaddog2020  Listeners get a special 15% off at https://www.drymaxsports.com/products/ LUNA SANDALS "Whether I'm hitting the trails or just hanging out, LUNA Sandals are my favorite. They're designed by Barefoot Ted of Born to Run and made for every adventure—ultra running, hiking, or just kicking back. Its minimalist footwear that's good for your feet!" Check them out and get 15% off at lunasandals.com/allwedoisrun. Allwedoisrun.com Runeveryday.com FB: #rwrunstreak Luis Escobar (Host) Contact: [email protected] Luis Instagram Kevin Lyons (Producer) Contact: [email protected] yesandvideo.com Music: Slow Burn by Kevin MacLeod (incompetech.com) Licensed under Creative Commons: By Attribution 3.0 http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ Original RDP Photo: Photography by Kaori Peters kaoriphoto.com Road Dog Podcast Adventure with Luis Escobar www.roaddogpodcast.com