Live from CEX 2024 (with special guest Philip Hernandez)

Apple's big developer conference meeting saw the launch of IOS 18 and Apple Intelligence? Apple decided to partner with OpenAI and not Google for their AI integration. Is this a big miss for Google Gemini?  Plus, Adobe and Meta have big terms and conditions issues this week. Hits and misses include OpenAI, Google and Nathan's hot dogs. Rants and raves include "Infectious Generosity" by Chris Anderson and yet another AI content marketing launch. ----- This week's links: Adobe's Missed Terms Adobe's Apology META's content problems with Europe Apple Intelligence Is Launched Joey Chestnut and Nathan's Hot Dogs AI Content Marketing Agent ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Twitter/X leans into NSFW content and vertical video. Is this the sign of a turnaround or more desperate measures to stay alive? Robert and Joe take opposite sides and fight, fight, fight. Spotify's CEO makes comments about the cost of content being almost nothing. Should we care or should we boycott? Hits include Four Seasons and 10 Cent Beer night. Rants and raves include signals from Marcus Sheridan and Suits. ----- This week's links: Twitter's New NSFW Strategy Twitter/X Will Do Vertical Video Spotify CEO Is Out of Touch Facebook Going After Gen Z 10 Cent Beer Night - Craig Irons Four Seasons PR Win ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's single marketing platform is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Big news this week as leaked Google search API documents are released into the world. The TLDR? Google has been lying about how it formulates search results. What do we know? Google manipulates content like an editor of a media company would. But does it even matter? AI scams are hitting a tipping point as we get closer to the US elections. OpenAI inks two more content deals and Elon raises money for xAI. Hits and misses include a home appliance store and Cheez-Its.  Rants and raves include marketing agencies and GaryVee's commencement speech. ----- This week's links: The Google API Document Leak Celebs Getting AI Scammed Atlantic/Vox Ink Deal with OpenAI Elon Raises $6 Billion for xAI HBR Recognizes Creator Economy Home Appliance Sales and Service Marketing Agencies as Consultants GaryVee's Commencement Address ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

While the world gets distracted by Scarlett Johansson's possible case against OpenAI, the AI giant continues to do deals with media companies.  This time, Open AI signed a deal with News Corp (owners of WSJ) for $250 million over five years (reported). Who's next? Trump Media's quarterly reported was more than a disaster, and yet the stock keeps going up. And we have a nice disagreement about whether Chick-fil-A should embrace or fire their internal social media influencers.  Hits and misses include GaryVee's new book and Coca-Cola lens. Rants and raves include content marketing platforms and a nice rave for the Cleveland Guardians baseball team. ----- This week's links: OpenAI vs. Black Widow OpenAI Signs Deal Trump Media Report Social Influencers and what to do Coca-Cola Lens GaryVee's Book Trailer ----- This week's sponsor: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

A special live recording of Joe and Robert with Philip Hernandez from the Haunted Attraction Network, recorded at Content Entrepreneur Expo (CEX) in Cleveland, Ohio on May 5th. Philip goes into detail about how he thinks about and creates content for the network, including the challenges and opportunities in social media content creation. Please follow Philip on Instagram and check out the Haunted Attraction Network. Special thanks to Hubspot for sponsoring the opening reception at CEX, and to our friends at VividFront for producing this recording.  ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

It was another crazy week in AI news. On the heals of Google's AI announcement, OpenAI launches ChatGPT4 Omni (o). What does the new iteration mean for creators and marketers? If that wasn't enough, TikTok is upgrading its algorithm with AI. Thank you (not so much). And is the beef between Kendrick and Drake real? We think it's marketing. Hits and misses include John Mulaney's new show and Prof G's podcast strategy. Rants and raves include OEF's 100 Holes of Golf model and more on MarTech cuts. This week's links: OpenAI Releases Omni TikTok Is Testing AI in Algo The Drake/Kendrick Beef John Mulaney's New Show Prof G Markets Podcast OEF's 100 Holes of Golf MarTech Spending Falls This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.  

In the latest social media soap opera, TikTok has sued the US Government over its potential "ban," bringing out the unconstitutional card. Is this just a stalling tactic? Yes...and it's working. More money is flowing into the creator economy after big product successes from MrBeast and Logan Paul. But will the new algo changes be the end of big content creators? And Hollywood continues to lack standards with AI. Is it simply too late? Hits and misses include CEX and Joe Biden. Rants and raves include Instagram and Meta. This week's links: TikTok Sues the US Government MrBeast and Logal Paul Lead Creator Movement Hollywood and AI 2024 Marketing Technology Landscape Meta to Provide Advertisers with Auto Images Instagram on Algo Change   This week's sponsors: Hubspot's Service Hub is a game changer for marketers and creators. Check it out today at http://hubspot.com/service. ------- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

Joe and Robert do a deep dive into their CEX presentations...Joe's on the new business model for content creators and Robert's on the marketing MBA. In the news, Instagram launches a new program that will highlight new content creators. They make it sound amazing. The problem is that this will hurt full-time content creators and content marketers. Hits this week include Adidas and Phish (at the Sphere). Rants and raves include the trouble with books and third-party cookies. This week's links: Instagram and Twitch Roll Out New Algos Amazon's Killer Quarterly Numbers Adidas to Overinvest in Marketing Phish at the Sphere No One Buys Books Yes, People Still Buy Books Google's Cookie Delay This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. NOTE: You can get captions there. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

In a whirlwind week on The Hill, a TikTok ultimatum (sell or be banned) passed the House, the Senate and was quickly signed by the President. What happens now? META's quarterly results were outstanding...and then the stock dropped 20 percent. What happened? Taylor Swift does her own deal with TikTok, making the executive team at UMG furious. Is this something for creators and marketers to follow? Hits and misses include Cedar Point and Google. Rants and raves include a big rant against Telsa marketing and an important reminder social media from Jay Clouse. This week's links: Biden Signs Bill Against TikTok TikTok's Creator Economy Stares Into the Abyss META Announces Earnings...Stock Sinks Taylor Swift Goes Direct with TikTok Google Fires Protesters Cedar Point's Content Creators Tesla's No Marketing Move Jay Clouse on Social Media This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.

John Deere's search for a new social media creator leads to an important conversation - are corporate social media handles dead? Faced with possibly paying for the news, Google starts removing links to California news sites for some users. And the winner for the dumb move of the year goes to... The VC market for creator startups is up the the first time in multiple quarters, while a group of TikTok influencers send a nasty gram to Joe Biden. Hits and misses include Dove and AI and Caitlin Clark on SNL. Rants and raves include gaming Spotify and the Chief Marketing Officer tenure. Sign up to CEX and use code TOM100 to win a guest spot on This Old Marketing. This week's links: Google Won't Pay for News John Deere Hunts for Chief Tractor Officer Creator Startups and VCs TikTok Influencers Send Letter to Joe Biden Dove and AI SNL and Caitlin Clark CMO Tenures Spotify and SEO This week's sponsors: Get the 2024 State of Marketing Report from Hubspot --> https://clickhubspot.com/psg ------ Get 20% OFF DivvyHQ and All Lytho Products FOR LIFE!* Hurry! Sign up by May 31st, 2024. Offer is only available for new DivvyHQ and Lytho customers. You must schedule a call/demo using this form by May 31, 2024. You must activate your account by June 28, 2024. The FREE 1-hour workshop with Robert Rose is only available for the first 10 companies that activate a paid subscription by June 28, 2024. The workshop will be added as part of the onboarding process. ------- StreamYard is the easiest way to create content right in your browser. You can multistream to your social media platforms, host a weekly show with special guests, create webinars, record podcasts with local recordings, create videos and more. StreamYard’s a popular tool amongst livestreamers, video creators, YouTubers, and podcasters – With features like live streaming, webinars, local recordings, screen sharing and more, StreamYard makes it simple to get professional and polished content every time. Sign up today and get a free trial and lifetime discount.  ------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.com. Catch and subscribe to our NEW show on YouTube. Subscribe to Joe Pulizzi's Orangeletter and get two free downloads direct from Joe. Subscribe to Robert Rose's newsletter at Experience Advisors.