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The Fear of Loneliness

09/10/2025
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Julie Censullo has a rule: When someone invites her to do something, she always says yes. It’s her way of staving off loneliness.

But when aquaintances suggested a four-day canoe trip in the Boundary Waters, she started second guessing herself. This was way outside her comfort zone. In the weeks leading up to the trip, she was so anxious she was hardly sleeping.

On this episode, Julie takes us to the Minnesota wilderness and explores what happens when you ignore your personal boundaries — just to make friends.

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