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Christian Nationalism, War on Iran, and Trump’s Concentration Camps

09/03/2026
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This week, Sam speaks with Matthew D. Taylor, about the religious undercurrents underpinning this incredibly dangerous new war against Iran. Dr. Taylor is a visiting scholar at Georgetown University's Center on Faith and Justice. His latest book The Violent Take It by Force offers a history of the New Apostolic Reformation movement and its role in the events of January 6th. Then, she talks with Andrea Pitzer, author of One Long Night: A Global History of Concentration Camps (along with other books), about the plans to grow US concentration camps in support of ICE's ethnic cleansing mission.

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown

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