Important Update

Thomas Walker was interviewed in Season 1, Episode 2. This is the extended interview. There was too much to include while focusing on Rachel's story but his interview is worth hearing in entirety. So much wisdom and experience.

In this episode, Zeo speaks with Amanda Carrasco, who survived childhood sexual abuse and attempted murder. There are no detailed descriptions of violence.Amanda’s book, Becoming The Brave One: My Journey to Justice, is available in online bookstores. Here is a link to her website.This is the last episode in Season 2. If you know of a story that would be good for this podcast, please submit it here.If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, share with friends, and join us on Patreon. 

If you have not listened to Season 1, Episode 2 (Rachel and Zaadii), I encourage going back to doing so. Thomas Walker was the peacemaker who facilitated the healing process in that story. I spoke with him about peacemaking and wanted to share more with you. You can hear this full bonus episode, which is over a half hour long, on Patreon. Subscriptions start at $1 per month. Please support the show if you can. I currently pay for this show out of my own pocket, as well as doing the labor for free. This work matters so much to me. If it matters to you too, please help me make it happen. Subscribe!

I’m still pinching myself that I got to interview Dr. Angela Y Davis. What an incredible honor. This interview originally aired back in 2020 when I was part of a collective called the Prison Music Project and we were releasing an album of songs written by and with men who were incarcerated, called Long Time Gone (on all the streaming apps). So much of what Dr. Davis says in the interview is still (or even more) relevant in 2026. We are blessed to have her in our timeline.To find a list of her books, visit her page on GoodReadsFun bonus fact: I transitioned to veganism in early 2025 and very shortly after that, I learned that Dr. Angela Davis is a long-time vegan. No exploitation for anyone. (It’s ok if you’re not vegan yet… I was there too, once.)If you’d like to support the making of this podcast, please leave a rating and a review and, if you’re able, subscribe on Patreon.

Marylyn Tesconi speaks about sexual trauma she experienced as a child. The descriptions of sexual abuse occur from 6:38 - 7:27. To support the show, please visit: https://www.patreon.com/zoeboekbinder

On this show, we talk about different forms of justice outside the criminal legal system. The one most commonly talked about on the show is Restorative Justice. I had the honor of speaking with three people who are knowledgeable on the topic, including Howard Zehr, who is considered one of the people who introduced it in the 1970’s (though is has indigenous roots and existed long before).Howard Zehr wrote a book called The Little Book of Restorative Justice, among many others. To learn more about his books, visit his author page on GoodReads.To learn more about Samual Brown’s work, visit the website of his project, the 10P ProgramIf you want to learn more about Lauren Trout (they/them)… too bad. They asked not to be linked because they are focusing on the physical world and their immediate community. To support this show, please leave a rating and review. If you are able, sign up to support the creation of the show on Patreon

In this episode, Zeo speaks with the mother and sister of a victim of violence. Taliesin had an encounter with a stranger, who was harassing two young women on public transit, and was killed.(The descriptions of violence in this episode are brief and not detailed.)To learn more about Taliesin, visit the website that is dedicated to him:wechoose.love

A little sample of what is to come in Season 2 of Imagine Justice.

Thanks so much to all the listeners. Please help the show continue by sharing with your communities. Please leave a rating and review.To submit a story or send a tip or link, visit www.zeoboekbinder.com/podcastThe show is on hiatus while I search for more stories to share. I sat on these four episodes for years because I wanted to have more before release. Eventually I just had to release them and hope that, in doing so, more stories would come my way.If you want to learn more about holistic justice / non-punitive justice, here is some suggested reading:We Do This 'Til We Free Us by Mariame KabaBeyond Survival edited by Ejeris Dixon and Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-SamarasinhaAre Prisons Obsolete? by Angela Y. Davis

Listener discretion advised: references to child sexual abuse, gun violence, rape, and death. There are no detailed descriptions.When Stacey was 18 years old, she shot and killed her father who had been sexually abusing her for many years. The night she shot him he had just abused her little sister for the first time. She was convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole. Her story is powerful. She wrote a memoir, called Redemption, which is available anywhere books are sold. Here is a link to her book on goodreads.To submit a story for the podcast, visit https://zeoboekbinder.com/podcast