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Equality and Diversity Round Table - If Not Now Then When?

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For the final episode of the Perception series, we discuss a number of topics surrounding the theme of ‘equality and diversity’. I’m so proud to have had the chance to chat with Nasim Köerting, Head of Design at The Office Group; Sabine Zetteler, Founder of Zetteler PR and Bisila Noha, Founder of her eponymous ceramics brand. All hugely successful in their own right and with varied experiences, this dynamic group of guests are champions for change within the design industry. They are open-minded and eloquently discuss a number of issues that are still prevalent within the design industry today.

The setting was intentionally casual; we ate biscuits, drank coffee and laughed a lot! I wanted this episode to be relatable and to normalise the struggles that many people have had throughout their careers. I’d like to thank my guests for voicing their opinions and offering up their personal experiences in such a vulnerable way on a public platform.

I for one definitely learnt a lot from this chat as it opened my eyes to my often naive view of the world. I think it’s hugely important to recognise your own privilege in order to challenge the norms and to uplift others who haven’t had the same opportunities. ‘If Not Now Then When?’ aims to motivate and teaches people to believe in aspirations, however, it’s clear that this is not balanced as it’s often impossible for some of the most talented to get past the hurdles in their way.

I think listening to others more and hearing their lived experiences can often be painful as it makes us realise our own bias but it’s the way in which we can all move forward to a more excepting world for everyone.

This podcast series has been truly life changing for me. It has taught me a lot about myself, but also about others and it’s given me a far greater outlook beyond my own lived experiences. For this, I am so grateful to each and every one of my guests and I hope you enjoyed it as much as I did in producing it.


www.inntw.co.uk | @ifnotnowthen_when | #INNTWstories

Nasim: www.theofficegroup.com | @theofficegroup | @nasimkoerting

Bisila: www.bisilanoha.co.uk | @bisilanoha | @_sheroes | @_lonartorg | @submittolovestudios

Sabine: www.zetteler.co.uk | @zetteler | www.design-can.com | @_designcan__ | @sabinezetteler


CHOSEN CHARITABLE AND NON-PROFIT ORGANISATIONS:

Nasim: www.theadvocacyacademy.com | @advocacyacademy

Sabine: www.theblackcurriculum.com | @theblackcurriculum

Bisila: www.headwayeastlondon.org | @headwayeastlondon

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