
How much power does The New York Times really have , and what happens when that power is used to shape narrative instead of pursue truth?
In this episode of The Curious Middle, we speak with Ashley Rindsberg, author of The Gray Lady Winked, about the Times' reporting on some of the most important stories of the last century: the Nazi invasion of Poland, Stalin's Soviet Union, the Holocaust, Israel, the 1619 Project nd more.
Ashley Rindsberg is an investigative journalist and author focused on media malfeasance, information warfare, and the hidden systems influencing public discourse.
Ashley joins us to explain why he believes the paper has repeatedly protected power, buried inconvenient truths, and helped shape public opinion in ways that changed history. We also talk about the Sulzberger family, the culture inside elite newsrooms, the collapse of trust in journalism, and how listeners can build a healthier media diet today.
In this episode:
- What first inspired Ashley to write The Gray Lady Winked
- Why the New York Times is unlike any other media institution
- The Times' Holocaust coverage and what was buried
- Soviet propaganda, Stalin, Hitler, Cuba, Iraq, Israel and the Intifada,
- The 1619 Project and narrative-driven reporting
- The Tom Cotton op-ed controversy, safe spaces, silencing dissent and newsroom ideology
- Why media trust has collapsed
- How to find better journalism in a fractured media environment
Key Quotes
- "They set cultural agendas, they set the news agenda, they influence politics, they influence culture."
- "They didn't want to appear to be the Jewish newspaper that was advocating for Jewish lives or Jewish people. So they did the exact opposite."
- "You don't bury a story about tens of thousands of people being murdered in Europe by accident."
- "The narrative was so overpowering for them that it obliterated what was in front of their faces."
- "It became a culture of silence."
Timestamps
05:13: Origin Story of the Book
- Spark: reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich
- Shock discovery: NYT reported Poland invaded Germany (1939)
- Core question: "If they got that wrong, what else did they get wrong?"
08:42 – Why Focus on The New York Times
11:32 – Ochs-Sulzberger Family Ideology
- German-Jewish assimilation philosophy:
- Judaism = religion only (not identity)
14:23 – Holocaust Coverage Critique
- Only 6 front-page Holocaust stories in 6 years
17:56 – Historical Parallels to Today
- Narratives like:
- "Jews cause wars"
- "Israel manipulation"
20:34 – Could Coverage Have Changed History?
21:12 – Fascination with Power / Dictators
24:15 – Ukraine Famine Denial (Walter Duranty)
26:43 – Publishing Barriers
- Publishers avoided book due to:
- Fear of NYT retaliation
- Bestseller list control
- Insight: NYT bestseller list = editorial, not purely sales-based
30:12 – NYT Power Today
- Less local dominance, more global reach
- ~600 million monthly users
- Now a digital ecosystem
32:32 – NYT Lack of Accountability
35:30 – State of Journalism Today
38:48 – Misleading Image Example (Second Intifada)
- Photo falsely captioned:
- Palestinian victim → actually Jewish man being saved
- Example of narrative overriding facts
41:20 – Mohammed al-Dura Case
- Widely reported killing blamed on Israel
- Later forensic evidence contradicted it
- NYT never corrected narrative
43:10 – The 1619 Project
- Claim: U.S. founded on slavery, not liberty
- Criticism:
- Historians said key claims were false
- Still:
- Won Pulitzer
- Entered school curricula
51:54 – Tom Cotton Op-Ed Controversy
57:55 – Future of Media
59:27 – Advice for News Consumers (GREAT CLIP)
🔥 "Unbundle the news like Spotify unbundled albums"
1:01:09 – Closing + Current Work
- Focus on:
- Narrative spread across platforms
- Wikipedia, Reddit, AI manipulation
- Company: NPOV
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