The Apocrypha, Church Councils, and the Pastor’s Responsibility - with Shane Angland, Matt Brown, Nick Cady, and Steven Pomeroy

Dr Don Sunukjian has devoted his life to the craft of preaching, both in the pulpit and in the classroom. With doctoral training in theology and communication, along with 21 years of experience as a senior pastor, he brings together rigorous scholarship and real pastoral wisdom. He now serves as Professor Emeritus of Christian Ministry and Leadership at Biola University.In this conversation, Don joins Mike Neglia to talk about oral clarity in preaching and why vivid, real-life examples are essential for establishing relevance. Together, they explore how preachers can communicate biblical truth with accuracy, interest, and persuasive force, helping listeners not only understand the message but feel its weight.Dr Sunukjian has made significant contributions to the field of homiletics and biblical studies, writing for resources such as The Bible Knowledge Commentary, Biblical Preaching, Bibliotheca Sacra, Walvoord: A Tribute, and The Big Idea of Biblical Preaching. He has led pastors’ conferences across the United States and continues to maintain an active preaching ministry.This re-released conversation remains a timely reminder that faithful preaching requires both careful preparation and thoughtful communication.Recommended ResourcesAn Invitation to Biblical Preaching : https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/442010.Invitation_to_Biblical_PreachingHow Don Sunukjian Preaches (Homiletix) : https://homiletix.com/don-sunukjian-how-i-preach/ Biblical Sermons (Baker Academic) : https://bakeracademic.com/products/9781540967916_biblical-preachingFor information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

Recorded at the Expositors Collective gathering in Longmont, Colorado, this panel discussion helps pastors and Bible teachers think carefully about how Scripture has been understood, preserved, and proclaimed throughout church history, and why those distinctions still matter for ministry today.The conversation begins with practical clarity around the Apocrypha. The panel explains what the Apocryphal books are, how they relate to the biblical canon, and why pastors should understand their historical role without confusion or alarmism. Rather than treating the topic as merely academic, the speakers show how these questions directly affect pastoral confidence and congregational trust.From there, the discussion broadens to the role of church councils in defining and guarding Christian doctrine. Listeners are reminded that the core beliefs of the faith were not invented late, but carefully articulated in response to real theological challenges. Even historical heresies, the panel argues, served the church by forcing clarity about what Christians believe and why.A major emphasis throughout the session is the importance of distinguishing teaching from preaching. The panel explores why Bible studies should prioritise understanding rather than monologue, and why sermons must move beyond explanation to proclamation. Pastors are encouraged to be clear about their aim in each context, recognising that clarity serves both faithfulness and fruitfulness.The conversation also calls pastors to humility, urging them to learn from faithful voices of the past rather than assuming novelty equals faithfulness. Church history is presented not as a museum of dead ideas, but as a living resource that strengthens discernment and safeguards the gospel.The session concludes with a pastoral appeal for brokenhearted preachers who do more than convey information. The church does not merely need accurate teachers, but faithful proclaimers who handle the truth carefully and speak it with conviction, compassion, and love.For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

In this episode of the Expositors Collective podcast, Jeff Figgs offers a sober and deeply pastoral charge drawn from Paul’s final words to Timothy in 2 Timothy 3:10-11. Speaking from decades of ministry experience, Jeff reminds listeners that Christian leadership is ultimately measured not by recognition or platform, but by faithfulness, character, and endurance.Jeff serves as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Greeley, where he has faithfully taught verse-by-verse through all 66 books of the Bible over the past 28 years. Ordained in 1992, he began the church in 1996 with a small Bible study that grew into a thriving congregation. He also hosts the radio programme Under the Fig Tree, co-hosts Calvary Live on GraceFM Colorado, and serves as a chaplain for the Weld County Sheriff’s Office. That long obedience in ministry gives particular weight to this exhortation.The session is set in the context of Paul’s final imprisonment in Rome. Knowing that his life is drawing to a close, Paul writes to Timothy, his “son in the faith,” warning that the last days will be perilous times. Paul describes a culture marked by misdirected love, counterfeit spirituality, and people who are always learning but never arriving at the truth. Against that backdrop, Paul draws a sharp contrast: “But you have carefully followed…”From there, Jeff walks through the qualities Timothy had observed firsthand in Paul.First, doctrine. Timothy had carefully followed Paul’s teaching from the time he joined him in Lystra on the second missionary journey. Sound doctrine is shown to be essential, not optional. Drawing from Acts 20 and 2 Timothy 2:15, Jeff emphasises diligent study, faithful preparation, and rightly dividing the Word of truth. Congregations, he notes, can tell when the hard work has been done, and the goal is not to impress with humour or stories, but to leave people saying, “We heard from God.”Second, manner of life. Paul does not only point to what he taught, but how he lived. This unique phrase highlights the inseparable connection between message and messenger. Referencing passages such as 1 Corinthians 11:1 and Acts 20:18, Jeff stresses that a godly message must come from a godly life. The call is searching and personal: to be the same person outside the pulpit as inside it, so that those closest to us would never say, “Not you, pastor.”Third, purpose. Ministry is framed as stewardship rather than self-promotion. Faithfulness, not fame, is the true measure of success. Jeff reflects on the seasons of ministry that shape character over time, including suffering, grief, discouragement, and perseverance. He urges leaders to maintain a genuine devotional life, not merely study for sermons, reminding listeners that we cannot lead others where we ourselves are not walking.Throughout the session, one theme remains clear: godly character matters because we carry a godly message. In a world of perilous times and noisy voices, light does not argue, it is seen. Faithful ministry flows from lives shaped by the Word of God, empowered by the Spirit of God, and marked by humility, love, endurance, and integrity.This episode is a timely reminder that the church does not primarily need famous leaders, but faithful ones, men and women who will handle the Scriptures carefully and live them visibly, for the sake of the next generation.Jeff Figgs in 2019 on speech impediments, introversion and the call of God:  https://open.spotify.com/episode/3lirX6nlgYk1XDRHlIZsWM?si=515c1d9e1c7c4831For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

Ministry Mentorship: Why Leaders Must Stay Teachablewith Bryan StuparIn this episode of the Expositors Collective podcast, Bryan Stupar reflects on pastoral and ministry mentorship, not as a leadership technique or growth strategy, but as a deeply biblical, historical, and relational pattern of discipleship.Drawing from Scripture, church history, and decades of pastoral experience, Bryan argues that formation in ministry requires proximity, humility, and a posture of lifelong learning. Mentorship, he suggests, is not optional for Christian leaders because even Jesus, in His humanity, learned obedience through suffering. If growth and formation marked the life of Christ, how much more must leaders remain teachable.Bryan begins by rooting mentorship in the Great Commission, showing that discipleship necessarily involves teaching, modelling, and replication. He then explores the relationship between Paul and Timothy as an example of life-on-life formation that extends far beyond content delivery to include conduct, character, faith, and endurance.The episode also addresses the cultural challenges facing leaders today, particularly the pull of expressive individualism and self-centred leadership. Bryan contrasts this with the way of Jesus, which calls leaders to humility, service, and continual growth rather than performance and self-promotion.Along the way, he traces the historical roots of mentorship, from Homer’s Odyssey to pivotal Christian relationships such as Ambrose and Augustine, showing how faithful investment in others has shaped the church across generations. He then turns practical, highlighting the benefits of mentorship: growth through feedback, grace-filled support, and guidance through modelling.Bryan closes with personal reflections from his own pastoral journey, sharing how mentors shaped him through honest conversations, observation, and lived example. His encouragement is simple but challenging: none of us grow alone, and faithful ministry requires inviting trusted voices to speak into our lives.This conversation is a reminder that Christian leadership is formed over time, in community, and always with Jesus as the aim.For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

In this episode of the Expositors Collective podcast, Mike Neglia is joined by Shane Deane for a wide-ranging conversation on Puritan preaching, with particular attention to William Perkins’ The Art of Prophesying and the Puritan emphasis on application.Rather than treating the Puritans as mere historical figures or quotable voices, this discussion explores how their preaching method remains deeply relevant for modern pastors. Shane helps unpack why clarity, structure, and especially wise application were central to Puritan preaching, and how these convictions can shape Christ-centred exposition today.The conversation also turns to the often-neglected practice of pastoral prayer in gathered worship, drawing on Puritan theology and practice to show why public prayer is not filler, but a vital act of shepherding the congregation before God.Topics CoveredShane’s first sermon and how his preaching has developed over timeWhat first drew Shane to the Puritans and their preaching methodThe danger of treating the Puritans as “quote machines”William Perkins’ The Art of Prophesying, with a focus on Chapter 6The fourfold Puritan preaching pattern:Reading the textExplaining its meaningDrawing out doctrineApplying truth to the hearersWhy Perkins warned against cluttering sermons with excessive citationsWhy application was the heartbeat of Puritan preaching“Discriminating application” and addressing different kinds of hearers in one sermonPerkins’ categories of hearers and how they challenge one-size-fits-all preachingThe Directory for Public Worship and its heavy emphasis on applicationThe six Puritan “uses” of application:InformationRefutationExhortationAdmonitionComfortTrial (self-examination)Why pastoral prayer belongs at the heart of gathered worshipHow public prayer functions as shepherding, not transition timeThe connection between preaching, prayer, and spiritual formationWhich Puritan habits could most immediately strengthen modern preachingHow studying the Puritans has shaped Shane’s own preachingA closing “quote machine” segment featuring memorable Puritan linesKey TakeawaysPuritan preaching was deeply pastoral, not merely academicApplication is not an appendix to exposition, but its goalStructure serves clarity and freedom rather than rigidityToo many quotations can obscure rather than illuminate ScripturePastoral prayer is a theological act that teaches, shepherds, and forms a congregationPreaching and prayer together shape the spiritual life of the churchAbout the GuestShane Deane earned his PhD in Expository Preaching from The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He also holds an MDiv in Pastoral Studies and a ThM in Practical Theology. Shane serves as one of the elders at Passage Baptist Church in Passage West and works with Irish Baptist Missions.Shane was born in Cork, where he met and married his wife Luana, who is originally from Brazil. They have three children, two girls and one boy. Shane also lectures at Munster Bible College, helping train future pastors and Bible teachers.Featured links: Passage Baptist Church: https://passagebaptistchurch.ie/Munster Bible College: https://www.munsterbiblecollege.ie/ Preparing to Preach and Pray - Pat Quinn interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuNYKI34YrU Praying in Public - https://www.crossway.org/books/praying-in-public-case/ The Art of Prophesying Audiobook - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkSiqZPTp1M Joel Beeke - Reformed Preaching - https://heritagebooks.org/products/reformed-preaching-beeke.html?srsltid=AfmBOoonvFHUOEdlM1s07w2yI_5LoW_oj5bFWuWhnGS4I-2DBWCm1Rq9For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

At our Longmont training event, Pastor Nate Morris explores the heart behind preaching and the practical movements that help us communicate Scripture faithfully. Opening with a story about waiting tables, Nate reminds us that preachers do not invent the meal. We carry what God has already prepared and deliver it with care. This session combines pastoral insight, clear structure, and encouragement for anyone who wants to handle God’s word well.About Pastor Nate MorrisNate Morris is the lead pastor of Mountain Life Calvary Chapel, a multi location church serving Vail, Gypsum, and Glenwood Springs, Colorado. He and his wife Jen live in the Colorado mountains with their children Caleb, Zoe, and Josiah. Having grown up in the mountains himself, Nate has a deep passion to see mountain communities reached and transformed by the gospel.He hosts Truth and Love with Nate and Jen Morris and is a regular contributor to Mountain Life Church’s Unscripted podcast. You can learn more at mountainlife.church, follow @natemorris1, or visit pastorn8.com.Speaking with the Weight of Scripture1 Peter 4:11 calls those who speak to speak as those delivering God’s words. Nate anchors the room in this reminder: preaching is a sacred trust. Our role is not to improve the message but to carry it faithfully, just as a good waiter brings a prepared meal without dropping the plate.Two Questions That Shape Every SermonWhere am I taking them?Preaching needs a clear destination shaped by the passage itself.How do we get there?Listeners need a guided path. Structure is one of the ways we serve them well.Caring for Souls Through the WordNate highlights the preacher’s pastoral task: understanding people’s real needs and showing how the gospel addresses them. As Samuel Brengle observed, the truth in Jesus brings healing to every kind of spiritual condition. Preaching becomes an act of care as we discern and apply Scripture wisely.Five Movements That Help People Follow the Message1. IntroductionHelp listeners orient themselves to the theme and direction of the passage.2. NecessitationShow why the message matters and surface the tension the text resolves.3. ExpositionOpen the Scriptures carefully. Let the text drive the content.4. ApplicationInvite people to respond. Show what trust, obedience, or repentance looks like in daily life.5. InspirationLeave listeners with hope in Christ, not pressure to perform.Tools That Support Clear and Helpful DeliveryHumour, illustrations, vulnerability, inflection, and physical movement can all help the message connect, provided they serve the text rather than distract from it.Working Heartily, Depending FullyNate ends by reminding us that preaching is both labour and reliance.Colossians 3:23 calls us to work heartily for the Lord, while Augustine’s well known line captures the balance: pray as though everything depends on God, work as though everything depends on you.For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

How to Build Cohesive, Faithful, Application Driven Sermons Matt Brown shows how every biblical passage has a built in structure and how recognising that structure can transform the clarity, focus, and impact of your sermons. Recorded at our Longmont, Colorado training event.Matt explains that a passage works like a bridge. Every bridge has intentional direction, interconnected sections, and an intended destination. Scripture is the same. When you trace the flow of thought the biblical author has crafted, you begin to preach with greater confidence and sharper purpose.You will learn how to:identify the major movements of a passagefollow the progression of ideas that reveal the author’s intentturn the structure of the text into the structure of your sermondevelop application that grows naturally from the passagepreach cohesive, clear, and compelling messagesUsing Acts 11 as a worked example, Matt models how to observe the text, divide it into meaningful units, see how each section contributes to the whole, and discover the central idea your sermon should advance.Matt has been married for almost 20 years and has 4 amazing kids.  He has been serving in vocational ministry for 15 years, preaching expositional sermons in a variety of contexts from college ministry to lead church planter.  He loves pastoring pastors and coaching church planters to see the Great Commission advance through healthy multiplying churches.  He is a part of the Crossway Church Planting Network (crosswaynetwork.org) and has been involved in leading multiple Simeon Trust preaching workshops.  He loves Christ, coffee, and Chipotle (and alliteration).   They are currently in process of planting a church in Golden Co, called Golden City Church, which is the forth church plant they have been directly been a part of.goldencitychurch.com For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

In this episode Mike talks with Benni Rothe, pastor of Calvary Herborn, about his preaching journey and the practical habits that help him prepare well. Benni reflects on the lessons he picked up about time management while working full time as a banker and how those insights now help him structure his study week and keep a sustainable rhythm.The conversation touches on the relationship between personal devotions and sermon prep, the importance of finding your own working style rather than copying the approach of other preachers, and the surprising way God often uses us most in the moments when we feel least strong. Benni also shares how music plays a part in his process. As he finalises a sermon, he often uses music to stay focused, prayerful, and ready to communicate the message with a clear heart.About Benni RotheBenni is married to Laura. They have two daughters and live together in Germany. In fall 2017, Benni gave up his job as a banker and has been employed by the church ever since. He was the youth pastor for seven years and has been the senior pastor of our church since October 2024.It is important to him that people get to know Jesus in their lives and grow in their relationship with him. He roasts his own coffee and enjoys everything to do with coffee. Benni likes to spend time with his family and good friends, enjoys traveling, and is active in sports.For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

Recorded live at the Expositors Collective training event at White Fields Church in Longmont, Colorado, this session features Shaun Sells teaching the core principles and habits of inductive Bible study. Designed to equip Bible teachers to handle Scripture with accuracy and integrity, Shaun’s message lays out the essential path of observing the text carefully, interpreting it responsibly, and applying it faithfully.Shaun shows why the message must come from the passage rather than the personality of the preacher, how poor observation leads to poor interpretation, and why interpretation is the stage where most problems arise. He introduces practical tools like the 7-Letter Rule, demonstrates how to use word studies without drifting off course, and urges teachers to read widely so they grow in wisdom and depth. Throughout the session, Shaun emphasises that the way we study the Bible shapes who we become, warning teachers to guard their hearts from becoming more like the Pharisees than like Christ.The training concludes with a reminder that patient, honest inductive study fuels clear and confident proclamation of the Word, serving both the teacher and the church.About Shaun SellsShaun has served in ministry for nearly thirty years, including twenty four at Calvary Chapel Cheyenne, where he was youth pastor, assistant pastor, and senior pastor for eighteen years. His leadership began in the unexpected transition after the founding pastor stepped away, forcing him to learn the breadth of pastoral ministry firsthand. That experience produced a long standing desire to help pastors grow without facing those same burdens alone. Shaun now serves with Poimen Ministries, investing in the health and strength of pastors and churches around the world.Listen to an interview with Shaun Sells here: https://cgnmedia.org/podcast/expositors-collective/episode/ministry-in-motion-guest-preaching-mentorship-and-sermon-application-with-shaun-sellsFor information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollective

In this conversation, Lance Ralston reflects on more than forty years of pastoral ministry and Bible teaching. He describes how he began by leading a small group of men through Scripture, and how those early days shaped the habits and convictions that still guide him today. Lance shares lessons learned over decades in the pulpit, including what has changed, what has stayed the same, and what younger preachers often need to hear.A major part of the episode focuses on the emotional lives of preachers and congregations. Lance explains how the fall affects human emotions, how the new birth begins to renew them, and why understanding this matters for anyone who teaches the Bible. He and Mike discuss how emotions can support faithful preaching, how they can get in the way, and how both preachers and hearers can grow healthier patterns of emotional life.Lance also speaks about one of his great passions: church history. As the host of Communio Sanctorum: History of the Christian Church, he offers a wide view of the story of Christianity and highlights a few of his own preaching heroes from across the centuries. His love for leadership, historical context, and clear Bible teaching comes through in every part of the conversation.About Lance RalstonLance Ralston is the founding pastor of Calvary Chapel Oxnard in Ventura County, California, a fellowship he and others began in 1982. The church has met in several locations over the years and moved to its current Eastman Avenue facility in 1998. Lance and his wife Lynn have been married for more than thirty years and have three adult children and a growing number of grandchildren.Lance teaches the Bible expositionally, working systematically through both Old and New Testaments. He has taken his congregation through the entire Bible four times and is currently partway through a fifth. His teaching often includes historical background that helps listeners understand how Scripture speaks to life today.He is the author of Marriage: As It Was Meant To Be. He also has a long-standing interest in leadership and enjoys training younger pastors and ministry leaders.Lance hosts Communio Sanctorum – History of the Christian Church, a multi-season podcast designed to make church history accessible and engaging. Season 1 contains 150 episodes covering the story of the church from the first century to the eighteenth. Season 2 explores selected eras and themes in more detail.For information about our upcoming training events visit ExpositorsCollective.com The Expositors Collective podcast is part of the CGNMedia, Working together to proclaim the Gospel, make disciples, and plant churches. For more content like this, visit https://cgnmedia.org/Join our private Facebook group to continue the conversation: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ExpositorsCollectiveDonate to support the work of Expositors Collective, in person training events and a free weekly podcast: https://cgn.churchcenter.com/giving/to/expositors-collective