EPISODE 9: How Do Sensitive People Thrive? (Scott Van Voris Interview Part 1)

Is spiritual bypassing really all that bad? Why do people poo-poo things like "love and light" or "thoughts and prayers"? In this episode Heather and Emily share their hot takes on "good vibes only" and discuss when bypassing (of any kind) can be helpful.

Heather and Emily talk with author, folk magic practitioner and shamanic worker, David Shi about what a shaman really is (and isn’t) from a traditional North Asian perspective. We discuss the roles and responsibilities of the shaman, both traditionally and in modern times. We also explore his upcoming book Spirit Voices: The Mysteries and Magic of North Asian Shamanism. About David Shi: David Shi is a shamanic worker and folk magic practitioner who primarily engages in traditional North Asian forms of shamanism. He is primarily of Manchurian descent, but can also trace ancestry to Mongolian, Chinese, Korean, as well as a little Tungus Siberian and ancient Central Asian Turkic heritage as well. Raised in a household that incorporated both Southeast Siberian and North Chinese practices, David has dedicated his spare time to the study of the spiritual traditions of his ancestors and of greater Eurasia. Recognized as a sagaasha/ongodtengertei, a future shaman prior to initiation, among both Mongolian and Korean shamans, David’s practices are deeply rooted in spirit work in which ancestral and land spirits are called to empower all workings. David’s readings incorporate a combination of Tarot, Runes, Bones, Jaw-harp, as well as Mongolian stone divination (known as Kumalak in Turkic Central Asia). David is the author of the upcoming book “Spirit Voices: The Mysteries and Magic of North Asian Shamanism.” He has conducted workshops across the country at occult shops such as Catland Books, and was also interviewed on the podcasts “That Witch Life” by Courtney Weber, "This Old Witch" by Eddie Massey and Alexander Cabot, and "Witch Hat Chats" by Nikki Kirby. Additionally, David has studied Witchcraft, Hoodoo Rootwork, and Rune-lore from teachers within those traditions. David also practices the Korean traditional drumming art of Poongmul-nori. David currently resides in Manhattan, New York where he occasionally provides spiritual services, products, and workshops to his immediate communities.

Heather and Emily talk with Scott Van Voris about all the different ways that we experience vibes in the world, whether it be the energy of humans, places, plants or animals. They discus their differing perspectives what they’ve learned about themselves through the process of paying attention to “vibes”.

Heather and Emily talk with Scott Van Voris about all the different ways that empaths and people with high sensory perception experience the world. They discuss the unique ways they have each learned to manage their nervous systems and thrive in the world.

Heather and Emily talk about one of their favorite subjects: Spirit guides! Do we all have spirit guides? Should you work with them, and how? They discuss the practicalities of working with these spiritual helpers, from both personal experience and through experience with clients.

How do we feel okay when happiness just doesn’t seem available to us? Emily and Heather talk about their own practices to anchor themselves when life feels untenable.

What does “Life Purpose” and “Soul Purpose” mean? Heather and Emily talk about their experiences as readers interpreting both for their clients and ultimately ask: does any of it really matter?

Is it a good idea to try to blast open your intuition? (Spoiler: Yes) Turns out, using your intuition is weirdly easy with Emily’s Intuition Challenge exercises. Heather and Emily talk about the benefits, and pitfalls, of finally listening to your sixth sense.

Emily and Heather talk about readings gone wrong! We explore what it’s like to receive a wonky reading and to give a reading that just feels off. We explore questions like: What happens when you receive a reading that doesn’t resonate? What to do when you deliver a reading that doesn’t land with your client? How do you recover from a tricky reading as a reader and as a client? What is the actual job of a reader?Learn more about the podcast at:Divinelycurious.comYou can find Heather on social media @lovejoylightwork and lovejoylightwork.com Emily Rose can be found on social media @emilyrosedivination and emilyrosedivination.com

Emily Rose has an attitude about gratitude. The two have a spirited discussion about their differing ideas about gratitude and practices. They address questions like…what happens when doing a gratitude makes you feel like crap? What do you do when you don’t feel grateful at all? When is a gratitude practice helpful or harmful? Tune in and dig into these juicy questions with us. Learn more about the podcast at: Divinelycurious.com You can find Heather on social media @lovejoylightwork and lovejoylightwork.com Emily Rose can be found on social media @emilyrosedivination and emilyrosedivination.com