Close Watch with Robert Yaniz Jr. podcast

'The Wiz' (feat. Phoenix Clouden of Curtain to Curtain)

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Ease on down the road with us as Close Watch returns to Oz one more time, this time through the soulful, big-city reimagining of 1978's The Wiz. We're joined by Phoenix Clouden of Curtain to Curtain, for a deep dive into one of the boldest movie-musical swings of the 1970s. 

We'll explore how the film ambitiously reframes L. Frank Baum’s world through the lens of 1970s New York, Motown aesthetics, and groundbreaking Black artistry. Along the way, we unpack Diana Ross’ unexpected and emotionally raw take on Dorothy, Michael Jackson’s breakout performance as the Scarecrow, and Quincy Jones’ unmistakable musical influence. 

The conversation also examines the film’s expressive, surreal visuals and considers how The Wiz fits within the wider screen-musical canon. We'll even reflect on the film’s complicated reception, its renewed appreciation, and its enduring cultural significance.

Whether you’re a longtime fan or revisiting this Yellow Brick Road for the first time, this episode spotlights everything that makes The Wiz such a fascinating and ambitious trip through Oz.

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