Wanda Rollyson and Rebecca Cliburn | CSI-fail

After a brutal double homicide in rural Ohio in 2005, a killer who liked to watch the TV show CSI: Crime Scene Investigation thought he cleaned up his tracks. But as we know, it’s never as easy as it looks on television.  This case is *solved* If you love someone dealing with substance abuse, here are some resources:  Harm Reduction; Recovery Answers; Al Anon; Nar Anon; SAMHSA; FOA Families A huge THANK YOU to this month’s sponsors: Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story. Shopify: Every self-made person started somewhere. Yours starts free at shopify.com/crimelines  Events United States: AdvocacyCon https://www.advocacycon.com/   Retreat https://www.bothand.fyi/event-details-registration/ten-year-anniversary-celebration International: Costa Rica https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Galapagos  https://trovatrip.com/trip/south-america/ecuador/ecuador-with-josh-hallmark-jan-2027 Support the show! Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free on Supercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelines Apple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support: https://www.basementfortproductions.com/support Links to all my socials and more: https://linktr.ee/crimelines Sources: 2026 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790 If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits: Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/ Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty Hinges Crimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Before the spring of 2018, Lois Riess was an energetic 50-something year old woman living within an hour of her hometown. But then she became known across the United States as something else: the Killer Grandma and she was on the run.  This case is *solved*   A huge THANK YOU to this month’s sponsors: Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story. Turn those what ifs into reality with Shopify! Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/crimelines.  Events: AdvocacyCon September in Albuquerque: https://www.advocacycon.com/   November in Costa Rica: https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show! Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free on Supercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelines Apple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support: https://www.basementfortproductions.com/support Links to all my socials and more: https://linktr.ee/crimelines Sources: 2026 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790 If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits: Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/ Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty Hinges Crimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In 2012, a New York school superintendent didn’t show up as expected at a conference. His brother, a former FBI agent, suspected the worst and he was right. The police had leads but it took just one tip to bring it all together. This case is *solved*A huge THANK YOU to this month’s sponsors:Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story.Turn those what ifs into reality with Shopify! Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/crimelines. Events:AdvocacyCon September in Albuquerque: https://www.advocacycon.com/ November in Costa Rica: https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Content disclaimer: This episode contains strong language.In 2025, a man called 911 to report finding his mother dead. But with a changing story and questions about his mental state, the victim’s daughter is left alone to pick up the pieces. This case is pendingSpecial thanks to Leda's daughter Jessica and Dr. Paige Wilcoxson for their participation in this episode.A huge THANK YOU to this month’s sponsors:Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story.Turn those what ifs into reality with Shopify! Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at shopify.com/crimelines. Events:AdvocacyCon September in Albuquerque: https://www.advocacycon.com/ November in Costa Rica: https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When Brandi Celenza was shot in April of 2018, the police were told one story. That story was the same in 2018, 2019, and 2020. It only changed shortly before the case went to trial and the question came down to what it usually comes down to: would the jury be convinced?This case is *solved*A huge THANK YOU to this month's sponsors:Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story.Refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/crimelines for free shipping and 365-day returns.Events:AdvocacyCon September in Albuquerque: https://www.advocacycon.com/ November in Costa Rica: https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

From the time he murdered his parents as a teenager until his death under an assumed name, William Les Arnold’s life intersected with several other people and it left many of them wondering who was he, really?This case is *solved*A huge THANK YOU to this month's sponsors:Refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/crimelines for free shipping and 365-day returns.Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story.Events:AdvocacyCon September in Albuquerque: https://www.advocacycon.com/ November in Costa Rica: https://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In 1969, Joan Robinson Hill died of an infection of unknown origin. Her father was sure it was murder and, due to pressure, charges were eventually filed. But what happened next muddied the water more than it already was in this case of unknowns. This case is *unsolved/disputed*A huge THANK YOU to today's sponsors:Refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/crimelines for free shipping and 365-day returns.Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story.Eventshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When Joan Robinson Hill died in 1969, her father was sure foul play was involved even after multiple autopsies ruled it was natural causes. The state ended up charging her husband under a rarely used law, but he was never convicted after he, too, ended up dead. Going on 60 years later, people still ask if Joan Hill was murdered and who was behind John Hill’s death?This case is *unsolved/disputed*A huge THANK YOU to today's sponsors:Refresh your spring wardrobe with Quince. Go to quince.com/crimelines for free shipping and 365-day returns.Start your detective work today at Newspapers.com! Go to Newspapers.com/truecrime and use promo code “CRIMELINES” for 20% off a subscription — and let the past tell its story.Eventshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When Kara Nichols went missing, her family released relevant details of her life even though they thought it may impede getting attention on the case. It turned out they were right, until the right investigator came on the case and uncovered the truth. This case is *solved*Thank you to our sponsor Newspapers.com! Go to newspapers.com/truecrime and use code CRIMELINES at check out.Eventshttps://trovatrip.com/trip/central-america/costa-rica/costa-rica-with-josh-hallmark-nov-2026 Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In December of 2019, Monique Baugh went to show a house to a potential buyer and didn’t come back. Hours later, a home intruder shot her boyfriend and the search for Monique was on. Fortunately for the investigators, the shooters left a digital trail that unraveled a conspiracy. This case is *solved*For more information on realtor safety and resources: https://www.nar.realtor/safety Thank you to today's sponsor Newspapers.com! Go to newspapers.com/truecrime and use code CRIMELINES at check out.Support the show!Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free onSupercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelinesApple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support:https://www.basementfortproductions.com/supportLinks to all my socials and more:https://linktr.ee/crimelinesSources:2026 Crimelines Podcast Source ListTranscript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790If an exact transcript is needed, please request at [email protected] Licensing and credits:Theme music by Scott Buckley https://www.scottbuckley.com.au/Cover Art by Lars Hacking from Rusty HingesCrimelines is a registered trademark of Crimelines LLC. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.