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41: How Hard Do You Want It?

31/07/2026
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Some people will tell you to slow down.

Others will tell you to grind harder.


The truth?


It depends where you are.


In this episode, Matt Hall and I get into a conversation that started because we were both talking about summer... and came at it from completely different angles.


Matt's taking six weeks off.


I'm doubling down.


On paper, that sounds like a disagreement.


In reality, we ended up talking about something much bigger.


What kind of business are you actually trying to build?


One that traps you into working forever...


Or one that gives you the choice?


We talk about hustle culture, burnout, taking holidays, building systems, earning the right to slow down and why so many online entrepreneurs have completely unrealistic expectations about what success actually looks like.


Along the way we also cover:

  • Why "work harder" isn't always the answer.
  • When you absolutely should grind.
  • Why business should eventually give you freedom.
  • The problem with social media's version of success.
  • Why neither of us believes in fake work-life balance.
  • How to build a business you don't need a holiday from.
  • Why peace matters more than happiness.


Whether you're feeling burnt out...


Or guilty for slowing down...


This episode will probably challenge the way you think about work.


Timestamps

00:00 - Beefy sweat and the world's worst crisp flavour
01:05 - Why this conversation started
02:30 - Matt's controversial "take six weeks off" post
04:00 - Have you actually earned a break?
06:30 - The difference between hustling and strategy
08:00 - £187k launches and what those numbers really mean
09:30 - Social media's distorted view of success
11:00 - The years of hard work nobody talks about
13:00 - Building recurring revenue
15:00 - Creating a business you don't need a holiday from
18:00 - Happiness vs peace
20:30 - Why business can become your hobby
23:00 - Why taking time off creates better ideas
25:30 - Loving your work without becoming consumed by it
28:00 - Dan's favourite hobby: derailing people's Facebook posts
31:00 - ADHD, boredom and needing to stay stimulated
37:00 - Learning how to slow your mind down
42:30 - What kind of business are you really building?
46:00 - Internet arguments and social media outrage
49:00 - Final thoughts on working hard vs working smart

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