Bannon, Sanders Shed Differences in Call for AI Action

Is President Trump about to tear down the Kennedy Center because he cannot get his name on the building? Plus, OpenAI is revealing more AI models have gone rogue, and Anthropic's chatbot Claude is taking over the work of building its own successor. Anderson speaks to one of AI's godfathers, Yoshua Bengio.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Federal Reserve raised its benchmark interest rate as expected on Wednesday, marking a sharp policy turnaround for an economy increasingly shaped by the war in the Middle East. Plus, a new report on Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s long-standing fixation on what the troops at his speeches look like. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A new chapter in the debate over how to make AI safe played out today between Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei and Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, whose chips power just about everything to do with artificial intelligence. Plus, all we're learning about the shadowy Russian billionaire who bankrolled part of Donald Trump Jr.'s wedding celebration, to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Could artificial intelligence kill us all by the end of the decade? That was the question raised last week by former Anthropic employee Jacob Coxon, who said many at the company believe that it's possible. Then this weekend, the company's CEO Dario Amodei posted an essay in which he acknowledged that people may lose control of AI and called on industry leaders to “slow the pace” at improving the technology to avoid the wrong paths and the possibility of AI harming humanity. Tonight, we have Anderson’s interview with Dario Amodei, and reaction from his former employee Jacob Coxon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On the 25th anniversary of the 9/11 terror attacks, Anderson reports from ground zero and speaks with those who were on the scene, including Thomas von Essen, the New York City fire commissioner, and first responder John Feal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Anthropic, the AI company behind Claude, says in a new paper that it blocked multiple attempts to use its AI models in ways that could potentially lead to the development of biological weapons. This comes as some industry insiders are loudly warning the technology could wipe out humanity within the decade. NYU professor and podcast host Scott Galloway joins Anderson to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For the first time ever, the Republican Party is holding a national convention outside of a presidential election year. It's a gamble that President Trump, who will take the stage tonight, can rally otherwise unenthusiastic Republicans for the midterms. Plus, jurors in the Lindsay Clancy trial are speaking out about the one holdout who caused the deadlock, and Anderson's conversation with the now nationally famous defense attorney Kevin Reddington, about the strategy ahead and what sort of deal he might agree to with state prosecutors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Keeping Them Honest with what appears to be another instance of the Trump administration promoting its own sanitized version of American history instead of the real thing. It centers on new reporting in The Washington Post, that the administration has removed language, on signage and a web page, criticizing a memorial to the Confederacy formerly located in Arlington National Cemetery. A memorial they intend to restore and put back.  Plus, nearly 25 years after the day, new documents confirming what many suspected, the air near Ground Zero was less safe to breathe than officials let on; vital information the public simply was not told. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A look at what comes next after a murder trial that drew national attention, divided public opinion and left 12 men and women unable to reach a verdict. A Massachusetts judge declared a mistrial today in the case of Lindsay Clancy, the former nurse accused of murdering her three children. Plus, after being trapped nine days underground by the flooding in Nepal, two survivors were found alive, with thousands more still unaccounted for.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Stunning new developments in what began as a profound human tragedy, and has become a riveting courtroom drama that could come down to one single juror. A deadlocked jury has been sent home after a sixth day of deliberations in the Lindsay Clancy trial, the Massachusetts mother accused of murder after strangling her three young children in 2023. Plus, Vice President Vance tells reporters “I wouldn’t call Iran a war right now.” Anderson talks about that with Republican Rep. Pat Harrigan, a retired Army special forces officer who served in Afghanistan and earned two bronze stars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices