Mark Seemann: AI Code Quality - Episode 415

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Today I'm joined by Robert C. Martin, known to most of the industry as Uncle Bob - a programmer since 1970, co-author of the Agile Manifesto, and the first chairman of the Agile Alliance. He's the founder of Uncle Bob Consulting LLC and has written many of the field's defining books, including Clean Code, Clean Architecture, Clean Agile, and his newest release, Functional Design. Lately he's been deep into a project called swarm-forge, an open-source tool he built for coordinating teams of AI coding agents through disciplined, tmux-based workflows, and he's been documenting his experiments running it on real projects on X. This is actually Robert's fourth time on the show - we've previously talked about Agile and Extreme Programming, about clean code, and about being a software leader - I'm looking forward to hearing how his thinking on AI and software programming has evolved. Clean Coder Website - https://cleancoder.com Uncle Bob Github - https://github.com/unclebob Swarm Forge Github - https://github.com/unclebob/swarm-forge X Account - https://x.com/unclebobmartin Clean Coder LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/cleancoder Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 105 Episode 283 Episode 357  Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

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https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Joseph Guadagno is an experienced executive level software leader and architect over 30 years of software development experience and a Microsoft MVP since 2007, having also served as President of the .NET Foundation from 2023 to 2024. he blogs regularly about .NET, Azure, and AI-assisted development workflows. This will be Joseph's second appearance on the podcast - he previously joined me in 2021 to talk about the latest in Azure DevOps. You can find more about Joseph and his work at josephguadagno.net. Website - https://www.josephguadagno.net/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephguadagno/ Github - https://github.com/jguadagno X Link - https://x.com/jguadagno Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 159 - https://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/joe-guadagno-on-the-latest-in-azure-devops-episode-159 Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Anna Hoffman is a Principal Group Product Manager for Azure Data on Microsoft's SQL Engineering team, where she works across SQL Server, Azure SQL, and SQL database in Fabric. She is also the host of Data Exposed, Microsoft's video series covering the data platform. Anna holds an engineering degree from Georgia Tech along with a master's degree in data science, and started her career as a data and applied scientist before moving into product management. She continues to blog regularly for the Azure SQL Devs' Corner. You can find her on GitHub and on X at @AnalyticAnna. Anna's Devblogs - https://devblogs.microsoft.com/azure-sql/author/antho/ Anna's Github - https://github.com/amthomas46 X Account - https://x.com/analyticanna  LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amthomas46/ What's New Across Microsoft Microsoft SQL Server Blog Author Page Azure SQL Devs' Corner Author Page Data Exposed (YouTube playlist, 500 episodes) Azure SQL YouTube channel "The Era of the Agentic Database Developer" (Build 2026 recap) "What's new across Microsoft SQL in 2026 so far" (mid-year recap) MSSQL extension roadmap - https://github.com/microsoft/vscode-mssql/wiki/roadmap GitHub Copilot Agent Mode in SSMS - https://learn.microsoft.com/ssms/github-copilot/agent-mode Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 160 - https://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/azure-sql-database-with-anna-hoffman-episode-160 Want to Learn More?  Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Mark Seemann is a self-employed programmer and software architect based in Copenhagen, Denmark, and the author of Code That Fits in Your Head and Dependency Injection Principles, Practices, and Patterns. He is widely known throughout the .NET community for his ploeh blog, which he has maintained for years, writing about software architecture, test-driven development, and functional programming. He shares his work and insights on GitHub and X as @ploeh, and can also be found on LinkedIn. Mark previously joined the show for Episode 189, "Code That Fits In Your Head." Ploeh - https://blog.ploeh.dk/ Guthub Ploeh - https://github.com/ploeh X Ploeh - https://x.com/ploeh LinkedIn Ploeh - https://dk.linkedin.com/in/ploeh The AI Code Quality Maintainability Gap - https://www.gitclear.com/the_ai_code_quality_maintainability_gap Sam Harris Podcast - https://www.samharris.org/podcasts/making-sense-episodes/487-is-ai-already-conscious Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 189 - http://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/mark-seemann-code-that-fits-in-your-head-episode-189 Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Today's guest is a true heavyweight in the .NET open-source world — someone whose work has quietly, but profoundly, shaped the way countless developers build software. Jimmy Bogard is the creator and maintainer of two very popular OSS libraries in the .NET ecosystem: AutoMapper and MediatR. If you've ever tried to simplify object mapping or decouple application logic, chances are you've used his tools. Based in Austin, Texas, Jimmy is an independent software consultant and a 15+ year recipient of the Microsoft Most Valuable Professional award — every year since 2009. AutoMapper alone has been around for 17 years and racked up hundreds of millions of downloads. It started as a personal tool to streamline development for client projects and grew into a global standard for object mapping. Github eShop - https://github.com/jbogard/eShop Jimmy's Github - https://github.com/jbogard AutoMapper Github - https://github.com/AutoMapper/AutoMapper/releases AutoMapper Nuget - https://www.nuget.org/packages/automapper/ MediatR Nuget - https://www.nuget.org/packages/MediatR MediatR Github - https://github.com/jbogard/MediatR/releases Jimmy's Website - https://www.jimmybogard.com/ Jimmy's Website / AutoMapper - https://www.jimmybogard.com/automapper-and-mediatr-licensing-update/ Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 356  Episode 264 Episode 98 Episode 11 Want to Learn More?  Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ John Bristowe brings over 20 years of experience in technology to his role as Developer Advocate at Octopus Deploy. His career includes time at Progress and Microsoft, where he developed his skills in management and technology. Known for a straightforward and engaging style, John often speaks at industry conferences, sharing practical tips and insights. John is a HashiCorp Ambassador and part of the Progress Champions program. He enjoys creating content such as articles, webinars, and podcasts, aiming to help others in the tech community. In his free time, John likes to stay informed about the latest tech developments and shares his learning with an online audience. His approach is always about sharing knowledge and learning together.  LinkedIn- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbristowe/  Sessionize Link - https://sessionize.com/john-bristowe/ Octopus Roadmap - roadmap.octopus.com Octopus Blog - https://octopus.com/blog/code-review-is-theater-now I Love Lucy Reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnHiAWlrYQc Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: https://azuredevopspodcast.clear-measure.com/john-bristowe-the-latest-from-octopus-deploy-episode-368 Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Blake Caraway is the General Manager of Texas Multi-Chem, Ltd., a Texas Hill Country company where he has spent over a decade transforming daily operations through technology. With a degree in Computer Information Systems from Southwest Texas State University, Blake began his career as a Programmer Analyst at Dell Technologies, then moved into software architecture at Callaway Golf. He later joined Headspring Systems in Austin, which was later acquired by Accenture, as a Principal Consultant, where he led agile software projects, shaped client-facing architecture, and helped grow the consulting practice. Blake brought that software experience back to his hometown of Kerrville, Texas, where he now leads Texas Multi-Chem — a preeminent sports field contractor of Texas. Blake is using technology to improve internal operations one business process as a time.  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/blakecaraway/ Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

https://clearmeasure.com/developers/forums/ Michael Nygard advises consulting firms, private equity teams, CTOs, CEOs, and boards when they require senior technology judgment for limited-term, high-impact situations — including architecture assessment, platform rescue, cloud and data cost intervention, AI engineering enablement, technical diligence, divestiture and carve-out architecture, and operating-model redesign. Over a 35-year career, he has worked at the seam where people, processes, organizations, and the systems they build intersect. Most organizations treat those as separate problems. The hardest failures, and the most consequential wins, live precisely where they interact. That through-line is what Release It! is fundamentally about. The vocabulary it introduced — circuit breakers, bulkheads, stability patterns — is now standard in how the industry discusses reliability, and the book is widely cited as foundational to DevOps and cloud-native practice. At Nubank, he led the Data Business Unit with over $300 million in annual spend, then served as Chief Architect with reach across 2,500 engineers while the customer base grew from 75 million to 125 million across Brazil, Mexico, and Colombia. Results included cutting data-platform spend roughly 50% year-over-year, improving on-time data availability past 99%, building governance aligned with LGPD, GDPR, and CCPA, moving team engagement from the bottom decile to the 60th percentile, and rolling out AI coding tools to more than 90% of engineers without customer-visible quality regression. At Sabre, as part of the CTO office, he helped lead development-practice modernization, GCP migration strategy, mainframe offload architecture, technical diligence, and divestiture architecture across thousands of applications and hundreds of products. He is most effective when the stakes are real, the system is sociotechnical, and the solution must hold across architecture, execution, economics, and organizational behavior. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mtnygard/ Personal Blog & Website: https://www.michaelnygard.com GitHub: https://github.com/mtnygard Twitter/X: https://x.com/mtnygard Release It! (Pragmatic Programmers): https://pragprog.com/titles/mnee2/release-it-second-edition/ 97 Things Every Software Architect Should Know (O'Reilly): https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/97-things-every/9780596800611/ Goodreads Author Page: https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/6089.Michael_T_Nygard LinkedIn Articles: https://www.linkedin.com/today/author/mtnygard Presentations Archive: https://github.com/mtnygard/presentations/wiki Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.

Brady Gaster is a Principal PM Architect at GitHub, where he works on Apps, Agents, MIDI, and most notably, Squad — an open-source framework for orchestrating AI agent teams with GitHub Copilot. A longtime contributor to the .NET ecosystem, Brady previously served as Principal Program Manager on the .NET and Visual Studio team, leading work on SignalR, Orleans, microservices, and HTTP APIs. He is the co-creator of Squad, which allows developers to define a team of specialized AI agents that collaborate on real engineering work. When he's not building developer tools, Brady enjoys making music in his basement with synthesizers and guitars, and spending time with his two sons. Website / Blog: https://bradygaster.com/ GitHub: https://github.com/bradygaster LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bradygaster/ Twitter/X: @bradygaster Previous Appearances on the Azure & DevOps Podcast: Episode 102 — Brady Gaster on SignalR and More  Episode 221 — Brady Gaster: Orleans  Episode 295 — Brady Gaster: .NET Cloud Native  Episode 331 — Brady Gaster: Upgrading .NET apps  Want to Learn More? Visit AzureDevOps.Show for show notes and additional episodes.