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S4E8: Mikaela doesn’t respect Paul

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With WWDC25 looming, Paul and Mikaela are as excited as everyone to discover the new features and tools we can use to make amazing new things… but let’s not get too distracted by the new shiny things. In this episode, as well as covering off the news, there’s hard-won advice for new Swift developers, and loads of different takes on how to (and whether to!) monetise your apps.

Plus, is that… is that The Fruitful Trombone of Great Sadness parping a different tune…?


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