S4E6: The Fruitful Trombone of Great Sadness

Mikaela and Paul are – or at least were – live at WWDC25! And dub-dub dominates the chat – what was announced, why it matters, what the concerns are, and what new features developers are excited to get their hands on.Recorded in front of a live audience! If you were there, have fun remembering what fluffs have been cut out in the edit. If you weren’ t: this is exactly how it went down in the room 🙂‍↕️

With WWDC25 looming, Paul and Mikaela are as excited as everyone to discover the new features and tools we can use to make amazing new things… but let’s not get too distracted by the new shiny things. In this episode, as well as covering off the news, there’s hard-won advice for new Swift developers, and loads of different takes on how to (and whether to!) monetise your apps.Plus, is that… is that The Fruitful Trombone of Great Sadness parping a different tune…?Essential links from the episode:Hacking with Swift sale: https://www.hackingwithswift.com/offersWhat’s new in SwiftUI? https://www.hackingwithswift.com/swiftuiMikaela Fruitful preorder link: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/digitial-business-card-fruitful/id6449998135Swift Steering Group: https://www.swift.org/ecosystem-steering-group/What’s new in Swift 6.2? https://www.hackingwithswift.com/articles/277/whats-new-in-swift-6-2Apple’s new accessibility features: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/apple-unveils-powerful-accessibility-features-coming-later-this-year/How many fraudulent transactions Apple blocks: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2025/05/the-app-store-prevented-more-than-9-billion-usd-in-fraudulent-transactions/Boots Theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boots_theoryFreemiumKit: https://freemiumkit.app/documentation/index/Conferences:CommunityKit (9–11 June): https://communitykit.social/One More Thing (9–12 June): https://omt-conf.com/Conference organisers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!

To celebrate Global Accessibility Awareness Day, Mikaela and Paul recorded a special episode live at ARCtic Conference in Oulu, Finland, with a distinguished panel of accessibility champions: Rob Whitaker, Daniel Devesa Derksen-Staats and Klemens Strasse.If accessibility seems like an overwhelming subject, don’t panic; we show you not just why but also give you tips on how to get started with ensuring your apps are as accessible as possible — and remember the mantra, ‘progress over perfection’!Essential links from the episode:Global Accessibility Awareness Day: https://accessibility.dayARCtic Conference: https://arcticonference.comArt of Fauna by Klemens Strasser: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/art-of-fauna-cozy-puzzles/id1630468596The practice of inclusive design, by Linda Dong: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2021/10275/Art of Fauna by Klemklem Strasser: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/art-of-fauna-cozy-puzzles/id1630468596Sim Daltonism: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/sim-daltonism/id1050503579Art of Fauna by the World’s Biggest Mandarin Duck Fan: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/art-of-fauna-cozy-puzzles/id1630468596Conferences:SwiftCraft (19–21 May): https://swiftcraft.ukConference organisers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!

Paul and Mikaela come to you live (-ish) from try! Swift Tokyo, where the air is filled with both cherry blossom and excitement about WWDC 2025!We’ve got advice for attending in-person events (and why we think you should), our first reactions to Swift 6.1 and Swiftly 1.0, plus, the long-running saga of whether Mikaela’s app Fruitful — which would be perfect for something like WWDC, Mikaela, just sayin’ — is finally done. Is it? You’ll have to listen to find out!Essential links from the episode:Prismic: https://github.com/twostraws/PrismicFruitful: https://getfruitful.appWWDC repository: https://github.com/twostraws/wwdc/Hue lightbulb: https://www.ryantoken.com/blog/serverless-swiftConferences:iOSKonf (13–15 May): https://www.ioskonf.mkSwiftCraft (19–21 May): https://swiftcraft.ukConference organizers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!

‘Networking’ is a word to strike fear into the heart of any developer, and upsettingly we’re dealing with both types this episodes: talking to other humans at conferences, but mostly trying to coax computers to talk to each other too.Plus, our Open Ballot this episode is the trifling little matter of the major changes you’re hoping to see in Xcode, SwiftUI, SwiftData and more as WWDC25 rolls around.Essential links from the episode:Apple Intelligence delayOriginal announcement: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/apple_is_delaying_the_more_personalized_siri_apple_intelligence_featuresGruber’s rant: https://daringfireball.net/2025/03/something_is_rotten_in_the_state_of_cupertinoApple introduces age-checking systems https://techcrunch.com/2025/02/27/apple-introduces-new-child-safety-initiatives-including-an-age-checking-system-for-apps/Testing Workgroup https://www.swift.org/testing-workgroup/Conferences:Swift Heroes (8–9 April): https://swiftheroes.com/2025/try! Swift Tokyo (9–11 April): ⁠⁠https://tryswift.jp/Conference organizers: we’d love to feature more events here on a regular basis. Get in touch with us when early bird tickets go on sale, or when you announce speakers or something else, and we’ll do our best to feature you!

Apparently, the secret to a great coding presentation is three Es. You’ll just have to listen to discover if this means Paul is advocating for consuming Class A drugs to get hyped or if they just, like, stand for something inspiring or something. Developers, developers, developers…Plus, as well as your traditional rundown of the news and upcoming conferences, this episode has excellent advice from Mikaela and from our wonderful community of Swift Over Coffee listeners on how to deal with imposter syndrome. Well, it’s quite good advice. Decent, at least.Essential links from the episode: Open Source Swift Build: https://www.swift.org/blog/the-next-chapter-in-swift-build-technologies/ Updated VSCode extension: https://www.swift.org/blog/vscode-swift-2/ Swift on Android Working Group https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-on-android-working-group/77780Conferences: Let’s Vision: Shanghai (1–2 March): ⁠https://letsvision.swiftgg.team⁠ ARCtic conference (11–13 March): ⁠https://arcticonference.com⁠ try! Swift Tokyo (9–11 April): ⁠https://tryswift.jp/

In this episode, we learn that the app that paid for Paul’s house hasn’t even been updated for iPhone X 😶‍🌫️ and Mikaela learns about some useful tools to help with the launch of the app that she absolutely, definitely, 100% is gonna debut in February. 😅 (Pretty sure she meant of 2025, but Paul neglected to press her on this point.) Plus, time is running out for EU trader status compliance (and some tips about keeping your personal phone number private), a big change to Swift, all the upcoming conferences (where, you know, Mikaela’s app would be incredibly useful…) and we turn the spotlight on some of the brilliant apps the Swift Over Coffee listeners are making. Essential links from the episode: EU Trader Status: https://developer.apple.com/news/?id=yfacfeal Last expression as return value: https://forums.swift.org/t/pitch-last-expression-as-return-value/76958 Apple launched the Advanced Commerce API: https://www.revenuecat.com/blog/growth/what-you-need-to-know-apples-advanced-commerce-api/ Swift Student Challenge: https://developer.apple.com/swift-student-challenge/ FOSDEM: https://fosdem.org/2025/ Conferences: FOSDEM, Swift Dev Room (1–2 Feb): https://fosdem.org/2025/⁠ Let's vision: Shanghai (1–2 March): https://letsvision.swiftgg.team ARCtic conference (11–13 March): https://arcticonference.com try! Swift Tokyo (9–11 April): https://tryswift.jp/ Indie apps: What’s My Age Again: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/whats-my-age-again-widgets/id1608719208 Libraried UI Components: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/libraried-ui-components/id1642862540?uo=4 LaunchBuddy: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/launchbuddy-indie-developer/id1615169630 Pretty QR Code Generator: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/pretty-qr-code-generator/id6736663159 Screenshot Studio: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/app-screenshot-tool/id6473832582 Sleep Apnea Snore Exercises: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/sleep-apnea-snore-exercises/id6572302789 Phonics Readers for kids: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/phonics-readers-for-kids/id1580191576 Pestle https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/pestle-recipe-manager/id1574776971 FlexiBoard Keyboard Shortcuts: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/flexiboard-keyboard-shortcuts/id6504126669 AppDab: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/shipping-apps-faster-appdab/id1612325183 Collino: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/collino-discover-board-games/id6739600352 Shimmer Browser: https://apps.apple.com/gb/app/shimmer-browser/id6739163018 Fruitful: https://getfruitful.app

Mikaela is joined by the most English-sounding Irishman you've ever heard for an intensive therapy session. We're talking paper cuts in Swift, those tiny annoyances that, sure, don't stop you in your tracks, but wouldn't it be nice if instead of having to cover ourselves in the coding equivalent of a hundred Band-Aids, Apple just… fixed? Please? Empathise, sympathise, and have a nice little scream into the void with us. Plus there's a roundup of conferences (running one? let us know!) and other Swift news, and we reveal Mikaela's One Weird Trick to actually shipping an app. Essential links from the episode: Fruitful: https://getfruitful.app Black Friday deals I: https://github.com/mRs-/Black-Friday-Deals Black Friday deals II: https://mjtsai.com/blog/2024/11/25/black-friday-2024/ Black Friday deals III: https://indieappsales.com Improving the approachability of data-race safety: https://forums.swift.org/t/prospective-vision-improving-the-approachability-of-data-race-safety/76183 James Dempsey’s Swift Virtuoso course: https://swift-virtuoso.com/ iOS Conf SG: https://www.iosconf.sg FOSDEM25: https://swiftlang.github.io/event-fosdem/ Mazie Conference: https://maize.dk/ Let’s visionOS: https://letsvisionos.swiftgg.team/page/ ARCtic Conference: https://arcticonference.com WebKit for SwiftUI: https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/pull/36760 TelemetryDeck: https://dashboard.telemetrydeck.com/registration/organization?referralCode=MYYXAFU3ZWQHM2CJ (Mikaela’s affiliate link, to get 100k extra signals of the free plan) Write Great Accessibility Labels WWDC 19: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2019/254 WebKit: https://github.com/WebKit/WebKit/pull/36760

We’re back! Many things have happened over that swift summer break, so pour a coffee and let’s jump right back in. In this episode, we’re talking Apple Intelligence and other code-complete co-pilots, the redesign of swift.org, shiny M4 Macs, good UI (and UX) design, and the Swift Foundation’s move to empower the community to fix tiny annoyances — but the big topic, of course, is how your adoption of Swift 6 has been going. If at all… 👀 This episode is sponsored by Astro, the App Store optimisation toolkit. The first 50 listeners to click https://tryastro.app/offer?campaign_id=swiftovercoffee&utm_source=swiftovercoffee get even more goodies! Essential links from the episode: Paul's new app, Pocket Assembler: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pocket-assembler/id6737518265 GitHub Copilot for Xcode: https://github.com/github/CopilotForXcode Announcing The Swift.org Redesign Project: https://forums.swift.org/t/announcing-the-swift-org-redesign-project/75865 Ignite, Static Site Generator, by Paul Hudson https://github.com/twostraws/Ignite Swift-Foundation 2024 Annual Update: https://forums.swift.org/t/swift-foundation-2024-annual-update/75609 Swift Interoperability with Java: https://github.com/swiftlang/swift-java Inferno, Metal shaders for SwiftUI by Paul Hudson: https://github.com/twostraws/Inferno Vortex, Particle Effects, by Paul Hudson: https://github.com/twostraws/Vortex Matt Massicotte’s blog: https://www.massicotte.org

In this episode: We discuss Apple's worldwide catch up events for WWDC, discuss how we stay up to date with new Swift features in old projects, and share the APIs and features you're most looking forward to adopting in iOS 18. WWDC Catch up Events: ⁠https://developer.apple.com/events/⁠ Microsoft blames the EU for CloudStrike downtime: ⁠https://mashable.com/article/microsoft-crowdstrike-eu-rules⁠ Share your code snippets on swift.org: ⁠https://x.com/SwiftLang/status/1813977828163195046⁠ What’s new in Swift: ⁠https://www.hackingwithswift.com/swift⁠