529. What AI Really Thinks of Your Brand with Dan Petrovic

"Link building is dead," they said. They were dead wrong. Dan Petrovic just explained why on Marketing Speak—and it's not what you think. Traditional link building? Evolving. Content seeding with brand associations? Essential. Digital PR for AI visibility? Critical. Here's why: Models need to be TRAINED on your brand associations. Even without backlinks, content seeding influences: Model training data Grounding citations Brand mention frequency Selection rate when models choose what to recommend Dan's been in SEO since before Google existed. His 2013 prediction that we'd "chat to Google by 2023"? Spot on. Now he's building tools (AI Rank, Tree Walker, semantic compression) that reveal:  ✓ Where models lack confidence in your brand  ✓ What competing brands do they associate with your entities  ✓ Which geographic/contextual biases are blocking visibility If you're a CMO, brand manager, or SEO professional and you're not thinking about how AI models perceive your brand, you're about to get disrupted. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/529.

When your brand sounds like, "Yeah, we do that too," you disappear into the noise. In this episode of Marketing Speak, I talk with Dr. Gary Sanchez, creator of the WHY.os Discovery, a framework built from hundreds of thousands of assessments and millions of data points to decode why people do what they do. We unpack how to: Turn your WHY into a clear, compelling brand message Hire and promote based on natural motivation, not just résumés Build teams who love their roles instead of burning out in them If you want more than clever copy—if you want a brand and culture that actually fit who you are—this conversation is for you. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/528.

Most entrepreneurs ask: "How do I get my first client?" My answer: Stop asking. Start delivering value—uninvited, uncompensated, and unapologetically. When I dropped out of my PhD program in 1995 (drowning in student loan debt), I had no portfolio, no speaking experience, and no business asking Fortune 500 companies for their money. But I understood something most don't: Your playing small does not serve the world. In this Marketing Speak episode, I reveal: The "willing suspension of disbelief" that opens miraculous opportunities  Why I transform every interaction with the intention to "reveal light" How trusting your gut is actually receiving divine guidance (not just random intuition)  The NetConcepts pivot from web agency to SEO powerhouse after the Target audit Whether you believe in spiritual business practices or not, I offer a compelling invitation: Try it as an experiment. Get into a high vibration and ask for guidance on which prospect to contact. What's the worst that could happen? You might just double your sales. Repeatedly. 📈 The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/527.

Most CEOs and entrepreneurs are neglecting their most important asset: their personal brand. Kara Goldin (founder of Hint Water) asked me a great question on her show: "How does SEO vary for a brand versus an individual?" My answer surprised her—and it might surprise you too. In this special crossover episode on Marketing Speak, I explain why most business leaders focus exclusively on their company's brand while ignoring their own. The problem? Your personal brand is the only one you take with you throughout your career. Companies come and go, but your name is forever. What we covered:  → Why content publishers often outrank established industry brands (and what to learn from them)  → How to identify indirect competitors with superior SEO knowledge  → The SparkToro tool that reveals exactly which hashtags your audience is using  → Why your personal website matters more than just having an "About the Founder" page Based on my work with major brands over three decades, I share proven strategies to ensure everything on page one—for both your personal name AND your company—either supports your narrative or gets pushed off entirely. This isn't about gaming the system. It's about strategic positioning that builds lasting digital authority.  Tune in! The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/526.

Most businesses expect AI to cut content costs in half and triple output. That fantasy rarely survives contact with reality. In this episode of Marketing Speak, I sat down with Eric Enge—founder of Pilot Holding, my co-author on all four editions of The Art of SEO, and author of Using Generative AI for SEO—to discuss what actually works with AI in marketing. Eric has built and sold four companies, including the award-winning Stone Temple Consulting. His latest insights cut through the AI hype to reveal sustainable strategies: ✅ Why 25-30% efficiency gains (not 4x productivity) is the realistic target  ✅ What large language models do exceptionally well vs. where they consistently fall short  ✅ Why link building isn't dead and multi-channel presence matters more than ever  ✅ How covering low search volume topics demonstrates true expertise  ✅ The real truth about Google's "just create great content" advice If you're tired of empty AI promises and want strategies that deliver real results, this conversation will recalibrate your approach. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/525.

Most entrepreneurs have their calendars backwards—and it's costing them everything. Todd Herman has spent 21 years in high-performance athletics, working with Olympic athletes and billionaire entrepreneurs. His controversial insight is that most entrepreneurs are committing the cardinal sin of business: mistaking activity for achievement. Todd's philosophy is brutally simple: One goal. 90 days. Complete focus.  No more half-built bridges. No more "90% finished" projects that generate zero revenue. No more productive procrastination disguised as "strategic planning." Here's what hit home for me:  → Your calendar reveals whether you're getting results  → Most "goals" are actually just projects—and the distinction matters enormously  → Theme days (Marketing Mondays, Financial Fridays) create momentum through batching  → Meetings without all decision-makers present are just expensive gossip sessions If you're ready to graduate from anecdotal success stories to science-backed systems, this episode is essential listening. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/524.

📉 Losing profit to unclear processes or ghosting clients? In this Marketing Speak episode, Melissa Morris reveals why most agencies leak profit—and how to fix it with better onboarding, clearer deliverables, and data-backed pricing. Whether you're drowning in Slack messages or tired of clients ghosting your team, this episode gives you the tools to fix it—fast. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/523.

🚨Podcasters: If you're ignoring YouTube, you're flushing growth down the algorithmic toilet. In this episode of Marketing Speak, I break down why YouTube is non-negotiable—even if your download numbers are laughably low. 🎯 Inside the episode: • The lazy podcaster's guide to turning transcripts into SEO machines • How to clone your content with the "Evil Twin" strategy • Why your client interviews should be stealth case studies • The 3 SEO pillars every podcaster must master (yes, even you) 700 downloads? 70,000? Doesn't matter. If you're podcasting without a strategy, you're podcasting blind. ▶️ Listen now. Your podcast deserves better than page 9 of Google. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/522.

While everyone's panicking about AI killing website traffic, one client scaled from 2M to 13M monthly visits. In the latest episode of Marketing Speak, design expert Greg Merrilees reveals how WhatIsMyIPAddress.com achieved explosive growth by building authority—not just pretty websites. Learn the exact architecture that beats AI Overviews and Google's traffic death spiral. This episode is a blueprint for future-proofing your brand. The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/521.

The marketing game has fundamentally changed. While most businesses still chase website clicks, AI is forming opinions about your brand before anyone visits your site. In my latest Marketing Speak episode, Dixon Jones (CEO of InLinks and former Global Brand Ambassador for Majestic) reveals why traditional SEO metrics are becoming obsolete. Dixon, who's earned the Queen's Award for Enterprise and UK Search Personality of the Year, shares how large language models make purchasing recommendations based on entity knowledge, not keyword rankings. Here's the reality: When someone asks ChatGPT or Claude for business recommendations, the decision happens in the AI response - not after clicking your website. Dixon's new tool audits what AI actually knows about your business versus competitors, revealing critical gaps that could cost you customers. Tune in! The show notes, including the transcript and checklist to this episode, are at marketingspeak.com/520.