Episode 71: Further Thoughts on Animals And Life Part 1 of 2 (series follow-up)

We complete our slightly gentler follow-up to the 'Animals For Food' series by hitting a few more topics around animals and life itself.   'The wild' (natural world) is basically the most dangerous ghetto imaginable, and Antony muses on the brutality of it all and whether the contrast between this ultimate survival test and the benevolent calm of a sanctuary might give a clue as to the innate aggression (or lack of) in the creatures we know to be predators.   We also look at the amazing work done by Jill Robinson and 'Animals Asia' in rescuing brown and moon 'bile bears' from the cruellest of long-term confinement in China and Vietnam, and then look at the even longer-term suffering of elephants in Thailand used for logging, elephant rides and other exhausting and thankless toil.   The rescues of these enormous and magnificent creatures is the happier and inspirational part of the story, and Antony offers some thoughts on what we can learn from animals and their mostly troubled existence surviving and trying to raise families.   There's also a preview of the next 2 episodes, which are with a film analysis legend who some of you may know   We hope you enjoy the show   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   episode links Jack Hancock-Fairs on animals in the wild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnLtSowMhWU   Juliet Gellatley's rousing speech at Vegan Campout 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS9uv-CJQbM   Juliet vs Piers Moron https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AQ5f_YLH1U   'To The Moon And Back'- must-watch documentary about Jill Robinson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O4sObx7ZVo   Animals Asia bear rescue videos (poignant & heartwarming beyond words) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUaGM0z_M2o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrZMGwwi-Eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foFNF7SUmik&t=107s   Raju The Crying elephant is free! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx2GTnYRjqo&t=107s   Elephants in mud (joy!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHrvEG5_Dy   Are lions naturally dangerous and ferocious? (watch and see) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IChRNbuHHWE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_mYmsrhsLM https://www.youtube.com/shorts/DtIi22FZcMM   Mark Devlin lays out the truth (2019) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjj1ZaaOnEg

Out of the darkness of the recent ‘Animals For Food’ series comes something a little more hopeful, though not without a few more difficult details   Antony talks about the aftermath of the series, including the reading of some recent feedback from valued listeners and how the research and production of the episodes, which involved immersion in a hopelessly dark and twisted world, has changed his own experience of life on a daily basis   Among the works recently consumed and discussed by your humble host are ‘Upton Sinclair’s 1905 novel ‘The Jungle’, a seminal work when it comes to food-related exploitation and the excesses of capitalist greed, and a documentary called ‘Dominion’, which would probably be the ultimate game changer if the world would just stop what they are doing and watch it.   There’s also some talk of dreams, celebrities and a couple of other things…   Part 2 will be available in the following week   We hope you find this of interest   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   episode links ‘The Jungle’ by Upton Sinclair https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41681.The_Jungle   ‘Dominion’ documentary (link on right hand side of page- watch if you dare!) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_(2018_film)   Ed Winters and Joey Carbstrong attempt to break the mainstream media resistance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hy65IdIr1Rk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya76fJiAWU8&t=11s   Joey’s film ‘Pignorant’ https://pignorantfilm.com/   Wayne Hsiung on the dangers and importance of animal rescue https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktSorZKpJtc&t=1866s   Wayne on ‘Why We Rescue’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Quv6hmq-qNA   BBC article on the heartwarming murder of buffaloes https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7kv71zx31o   Gary Yourofsky epic life-changing speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4&rco=1   Moby’s TED talk about veganism https://www.ted.com/talks/moby_why_i_m_a_vegan   TED talk about animal thought and sentience https://www.ted.com/talks/carl_safina_what_are_animals_thinking_and_feeling

The series completes itself with a look at the grandaddy of them all, Shaun Monson's 'Earthlings'. Although food has been the main focus of the series, this documentary also looks at the use of animals as pets (even that isn't always pretty), for clothes, for entertainment and finally for scientific experiments. Shaun's 2015 sequel 'Unity' is in the show notes below.   Antony also mentions a couple of Australian documentaries that are even harder to watch than 'Earthlings' (if that's even possible), and offers some final statements and some attempt at a conclusion.   General series notes We all know it's happening. We all know it's horrific but try to tell ourselves it's not that bad and if we just buy free-range eggs we can square it with our conscience and sleep peacefully. However, research and just a small sample of the copious amounts of truly heartbreaking video footage available makes it clear that it is far, far worse than we think (note- the information in this podcast series is actually quite sanitised compared to other testimonies and footage out there).   Who is to blame? The consumer or the industry? It seems to be a chicken-and-egg situation that could be improved greatly by the average consumer deciding to invest time in discovering what is behind some of the shameful (and shameless) propaganda techniques employed by the food industry. As should be clear in the series, the animals are the biggest victims but not the only ones, which is obvious when you research the state of meat, eggs and dairy that is routinely passed as 'safe to consume'.   To gain a better industry of how and why this nasty business is allowed to happen, a recommended companion piece is the excellent documentary 'The Corporation' and indeed the previous LALO episode on it (see show notes for both). We really owe it to ourselves and the animals who largely live miserable, hellish lives before suffering painful and brutal deaths, to make the effort in the ultimate information age to inform ourselves of the real situation. Unfettered capitalism cannot be allowed to run riot without resistance.   Do I recommend watching the documentaries and other video footage available? I'm going to say yes but please proceed with caution and I would actively discourage viewing them if you feel in a vulnerable or depressive state because they have the power to make you question whether true humanity exists and how we can possibly behave in this kind of way to innocent, defenceless beings (once again, I would also include some humans in this).   As the saying goes, 'once you've seen it, you can't unsee it', and as Ed Winters aka Earthling Ed says at the end of 'Land of Hope And Glory', 'you can never again say you didn't know'. While listening, consider/research the following; normalisation, desensitisation, disassociation, cultural reinforcement, cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, power(lessness), exploitation, deception, isolation, (relative) value of life, respect, compassion, sympathy, mercy, humanity.   We hope you find this of interest Thanks for listening!   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   Series links Shaun Monson (maker of ‘Earthlings’) Earthlings film (2005) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XrY2TP0ZyU   20th anniversary interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EGAFYWAwQE   Shaun’s TEDx talk (‘No Separation Based On Form) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7eopjN92c   Unity (2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4cMqtiTC6k   How do you get people to watch Earthlings (2 approaches) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Zh810bznk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8pdru1TOc   Ed Winters aka ‘Earthling Ed’ Land of Hope and Glory (the UK ‘Earthlings’, made by Surge in 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8&t=2s   Surge’s website https://www.surgeactivism.org/ourmission   Ed’s TED talk about veganism https://www.ted.com/talks/ed_winters_every_argument_against_veganism   An eye-opening speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58   Ed’s most recent published books https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58093554-this-is-vegan-propaganda https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124846667-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater   Ed debates (schools) a dairy farmer on the BBC https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124846667-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater   Jack Hancock Jack’s film ‘The Dying Trade’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qb-9Q0YhVA   Jack’s channel https://www.youtube.com/@HumaneHancock   The video that inspired this podcast series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4_fFjw3Ag   Slaughterhouse worker Tom talks to Jack (very disturbing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSbhLL2CF9o   Gail Eisnitz Gail’s books https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/220160974-out-of-sight https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31474.Slaughterhouse   Gail on the ‘Our Hen House’ podcast https://www.ourhenhouse.org/ep858   Joey Carbstrong Joey’s short film ‘Gaslit’ (what routinely happens to pigs in the UK) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql_L4JD0Fpc   Joey appears on the Jeremy Vine show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya76fJiAWU8   Joey Carbstrong exposes ‘premium turkey’ farming (please tell Jamie Oliver if you see him) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FMxd67zeXE   Hens in gas chambers (watch if you dare) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w81NRCt6Z2I   Other links 1 Vegan vs 20 Meat Eaters with Dr Jack Symes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsNBKKRXqI4   Jack talks to Joe Rogan about veganism and hunting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0mB_MStUsk   Chris Delforce’s films ‘Lucent’ and ‘Dominion’ (very graphic!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko   ‘Un-Australian’ activists shut down the Melbourne central business district, inspired by ‘Dominion’ https://veganrising.org.au/melbourne-city-centre-shut-down-for-animals/   Chris Delforce speaks at the Perth Vegan Expo 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydDkUNlewU   Humanemyth.org (deconstructing the myths of animal agriculture) https://humanemyth.org/   Roasting the Planet (2025 report on animal agriculture and the climate) https://foe.org/resources/heating-the-planet-big-meat-and-dairys-big-emissions/   Vegan TV ads (very effective!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdtyJ2aizI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6PMX30PViA   Recommended books ‘Dominion’ and ’ The Jungle’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7260.Dominion https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41681.The_Jungle   Simon Amstell’s ‘Carnage’ (2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUSdrSS4ms   Activist and ex-Slaughterhouse worker talks to ‘Vegan Gaze’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mRK1gQ_m8   The truth about supermarket eggs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUGRLaz-2s   ‘The Corporation’ film and previous LALO episode about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhixR6h5RSI https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com/e/episode-33-the-corporation/   The heartwarming story of Dolly (videos in reverse order on playlist, watch from bottom to top) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6VPBMQoGl0&list=PLKk60gBKlu0aYiHq_mKBw7ZflwCJDLUR-&index=4   The history and ending of public executions https://capitalpunishmentuk.org/the-ending-of-public-executions-in-the-19th-century/   TED talk about the bees disappearing https://www.ted.com/talks/marla_spivak_why_bees_are_disappearing  

Continuing with this most upsetting but vitally important topic, Antony completes his look at 'Land of Hope And Glory', discusses the big myth about tradition and change and then switches to a new documentary called 'The Dying Trade'.   This film was made by Jack Hancock, who gives the issue a new spin by exploring his relationship with his father, who just happens to be a man-and-boy slaughterhouse worker (Antony avoids euphemistic words like 'abattoir' throughout this series). Along the way, Jack meets a Holocaust survivor and such legends as Temple Grandin and Gail Eisnitz.   As Upton Sinclair famously said, 'it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it'.    This second part ends with testimonies from some rather brave slaughterhouse workers, who are largely victims themselves working in a stressful and terrifying environment which is, as Shaun Monson puts it, 'both a kitchen and a toilet'.   General series notes We all know it's happening. We all know it's horrific but try to tell ourselves it's not that bad and if we just buy free-range eggs we can square it with our conscience and sleep peacefully. However, research and just a small sample of the copious amounts of truly heartbreaking video footage available makes it clear that it is far, far worse than we think (note- the information in this podcast series is actually quite sanitised compared to other testimonies and footage out there).   Who is to blame? The consumer or the industry? It seems to be a chicken-and-egg situation that could be improved greatly by the average consumer deciding to invest time in discovering what is behind some of the shameful (and shameless) propaganda techniques employed by the food industry. As should be clear in the series, the animals are the biggest victims but not the only ones, which is obvious when you research the state of meat, eggs and dairy that is routinely passed as 'safe to consume'.   To gain a better industry of how and why this nasty business is allowed to happen, a recommended companion piece is the excellent documentary 'The Corporation' and indeed the previous LALO episode on it (see show notes for both). We really owe it to ourselves and the animals who largely live miserable, hellish lives before suffering painful and brutal deaths, to make the effort in the ultimate information age to inform ourselves of the real situation. Unfettered capitalism cannot be allowed to run riot without resistance.   Do I recommend watching the documentaries and other video footage available? I'm going to say yes but please proceed with caution and I would actively discourage viewing them if you feel in a vulnerable or depressive state because they have the power to make you question whether true humanity exists and how we can possibly behave in this kind of way to innocent, defenceless beings (once again, I would also include some humans in this).   As the saying goes, 'once you've seen it, you can't unsee it', and as Ed Winters aka Earthling Ed says at the end of 'Land of Hope And Glory', 'you can never again say you didn't know'. While listening, consider/research the following; normalisation, desensitisation, disassociation, cultural reinforcement, cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, power(lessness), exploitation, deception, isolation, (relative) value of life, respect, compassion, sympathy, mercy, humanity.   We hope you find this of interest Thanks for listening!   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   Series links Shaun Monson (maker of ‘Earthlings’) Earthlings film (2005) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XrY2TP0ZyU   20th anniversary interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EGAFYWAwQE   Shaun’s TEDx talk (‘No Separation Based On Form’) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7eopjN92c   Unity (2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4cMqtiTC6k   How do you get people to watch Earthlings (2 approaches) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Zh810bznk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8pdru1TOc   Ed Winters aka ‘Earthling Ed’ Land of Hope and Glory (the UK ‘Earthlings’, made by Surge in 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8&t=2s   Surge’s website https://www.surgeactivism.org/ourmission   Ed’s TED talk about veganism https://www.ted.com/talks/ed_winters_every_argument_against_veganism   An eye-opening speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58   Ed’s most recent published books https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58093554-this-is-vegan-propaganda https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124846667-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater   Ed debates (schools) a dairy farmer on the BBC https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124846667-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater   Jack Hancock Jack’s film ‘The Dying Trade’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qb-9Q0YhVA   Jack’s channel https://www.youtube.com/@HumaneHancock   The video that inspired this podcast series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4_fFjw3Ag   Slaughterhouse worker Tom talks to Jack (very disturbing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSbhLL2CF9o   Gail Eisnitz Gail’s books https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/220160974-out-of-sight https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31474.Slaughterhouse   Gail on the ‘Our Hen House’ podcast https://www.ourhenhouse.org/ep858   Joey Carbstrong Joey’s short film ‘Gaslit’ (what routinely happens to pigs in the UK) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql_L4JD0Fpc   Joey appears on the Jeremy Vine show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya76fJiAWU8   Joey Carbstrong exposes ‘premium turkey’ farming (please tell Jamie Oliver if you see him) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FMxd67zeXE   Hens in gas chambers (watch if you dare) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w81NRCt6Z2I   Other links 1 Vegan vs 20 Meat Eaters with Dr Jack Symes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsNBKKRXqI4   Jack talks to Joe Rogan about veganism and hunting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0mB_MStUsk   Chris Delforce’s films ‘Lucent’ and ‘Dominion’ (very graphic!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko   ‘Un-Australian’ activists shut down the Melbourne central business district, inspired by ‘Dominion’ https://veganrising.org.au/melbourne-city-centre-shut-down-for-animals/   Chris Delforce speaks at the Perth Vegan Expo 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydDkUNlewU   Humanemyth.org (deconstructing the myths of animal agriculture) https://humanemyth.org/   Roasting the Planet (2025 report on animal agriculture and the climate) https://foe.org/resources/heating-the-planet-big-meat-and-dairys-big-emissions/   Vegan TV ads (very effective!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdtyJ2aizI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6PMX30PViA   Recommended books ‘Dominion’ and ’ The Jungle’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7260.Dominion https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41681.The_Jungle   Simon Amstell’s ‘Carnage’ (2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUSdrSS4ms   Activist and ex-Slaughterhouse worker talks to ‘Vegan Gaze’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mRK1gQ_m8   The truth about supermarket eggs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUGRLaz-2s   ‘The Corporation’ film and previous LALO episode about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhixR6h5RSI https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com/e/episode-33-the-corporation/   The heartwarming story of Dolly (videos in reverse order on playlist, watch from bottom to top) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6VPBMQoGl0&list=PLKk60gBKlu0aYiHq_mKBw7ZflwCJDLUR-&index=4   The history and ending of public executions https://capitalpunishmentuk.org/the-ending-of-public-executions-in-the-19th-century/   TED talk about the bees disappearing https://www.ted.com/talks/marla_spivak_why_bees_are_disappearing  

This is the first part of a series on a topic which could be the most important and urgent ever covered on this podcast. There's no doubt that the research, including lots of video footage, has been the most upsetting and harrowing, but there has been a strangely cathartic quality to it as well.   In this part, Antony talks about his relationship with animals, the video that was the final trigger (or final straw) for these episodes, and then begins to go through the content of the film 'Land of Hope and Glory'. This documentary is known as a UK version of the well-known animal rights/use & abuse film 'Earthlings', which will be covered later in the series.   General series notes We all know it's happening. We all know it's horrific but try to tell ourselves it's not that bad and if we just buy free-range eggs we can square it with our conscience and sleep peacefully. However, research and just a small sample of the copious amounts of truly heartbreaking video footage available makes it clear that it is far, far worse than we think (note- the information in this podcast series is actually quite sanitised compared to other testimonies and footage out there).   Who is to blame? The consumer or the industry? It seems to be a chicken-and-egg situation that could be improved greatly by the average consumer deciding to invest time in discovering what is behind some of the shameful (and shameless) propaganda techniques employed by the food industry. As should be clear in the series, the animals are the biggest victims but not the only ones, which is obvious when you research the state of meat, eggs and dairy that is routinely passed as 'safe to consume'.   To gain a better industry of how and why this nasty business is allowed to happen, a recommended companion piece is the excellent documentary 'The Corporation' and indeed the previous LALO episode on it (see show notes for both). We really owe it to ourselves and the animals who largely live miserable, hellish lives before suffering painful and brutal deaths, to make the effort in the ultimate information age to inform ourselves of the real situation. Unfettered capitalism cannot be allowed to run riot without resistance.   Do I recommend watching the documentaries and other video footage available? I'm going to say yes but please proceed with caution and I would actively discourage viewing them if you feel in a vulnerable or depressive state because they have the power to make you question whether true humanity exists and how we can possibly behave in this kind of way to innocent, defenceless beings (once again, I would also include some humans in this).   As the saying goes, 'once you've seen it, you can't unsee it', and as Ed Winters aka Earthling Ed says at the end of 'Land of Hope And Glory', 'you can never again say you didn't know'. While listening, consider/research the following; normalisation, desensitisation, disassociation, cultural reinforcement, cognitive dissonance, confirmation bias, power(lessness), exploitation, deception, isolation, (relative) value of life, respect, compassion, sympathy, mercy, humanity.   We hope you find this of interest Thanks for listening!   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   Series links Shaun Monson (maker of ‘Earthlings’) Earthlings film (2005) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XrY2TP0ZyU   20th anniversary interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EGAFYWAwQE   Shaun’s TEDx talk (‘No Separation Based On Form’) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P7eopjN92c   Unity (2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4cMqtiTC6k   How do you get people to watch Earthlings (2 approaches) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Zh810bznk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8pdru1TOc   Ed Winters aka ‘Earthling Ed’ Land of Hope and Glory (the UK ‘Earthlings’, made by Surge in 2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvtVkNofcq8&t=2s   Surge’s website https://www.surgeactivism.org/ourmission   Ed’s TED talk about veganism https://www.ted.com/talks/ed_winters_every_argument_against_veganism   An eye-opening speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3u7hXpOm58   Ed’s most recent published books https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58093554-this-is-vegan-propaganda https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124846667-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater   Ed debates (schools) a dairy farmer on the BBC https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/124846667-how-to-argue-with-a-meat-eater   Jack Hancock Jack’s film ‘The Dying Trade’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qb-9Q0YhVA   Jack’s channel https://www.youtube.com/@HumaneHancock   The video that inspired this podcast series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX4_fFjw3Ag   Slaughterhouse worker Tom talks to Jack (very disturbing) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSbhLL2CF9o   Gail Eisnitz Gail’s books https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/220160974-out-of-sight https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31474.Slaughterhouse   Gail on the ‘Our Hen House’ podcast https://www.ourhenhouse.org/ep858   Joey Carbstrong Joey’s short film ‘Gaslit’ (what routinely happens to pigs in the UK) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql_L4JD0Fpc   Joey appears on the Jeremy Vine show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya76fJiAWU8   Joey Carbstrong exposes ‘premium turkey’ farming (please tell Jamie Oliver if you see him) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FMxd67zeXE   Hens in gas chambers (watch if you dare) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w81NRCt6Z2I   Other links 1 Vegan vs 20 Meat Eaters with Dr Jack Symes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsNBKKRXqI4   Jack talks to Joe Rogan about veganism and hunting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0mB_MStUsk   Chris Delforce’s films ‘Lucent’ and ‘Dominion’ (very graphic!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KArL5YjaL5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRAfJyEsko   ‘Un-Australian’ activists shut down the Melbourne central business district, inspired by ‘Dominion’ https://veganrising.org.au/melbourne-city-centre-shut-down-for-animals/   Chris Delforce speaks at the Perth Vegan Expo 2023 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ydDkUNlewU   Humanemyth.org (deconstructing the myths of animal agriculture) https://humanemyth.org/   Roasting the Planet (2025 report on animal agriculture and the climate) https://foe.org/resources/heating-the-planet-big-meat-and-dairys-big-emissions/   Vegan TV ads (very effective!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdtyJ2aizI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6PMX30PViA   Recommended books ‘Dominion’ and ’ The Jungle’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/7260.Dominion https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41681.The_Jungle   Simon Amstell’s ‘Carnage’ (2017) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfUSdrSS4ms   Activist and ex-Slaughterhouse worker talks to ‘Vegan Gaze’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mRK1gQ_m8   The truth about supermarket eggs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KUGRLaz-2s   ‘The Corporation’ film and previous LALO episode about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhixR6h5RSI https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com/e/episode-33-the-corporation/   The heartwarming story of Dolly (videos in reverse order on playlist, watch from bottom to top) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6VPBMQoGl0&list=PLKk60gBKlu0aYiHq_mKBw7ZflwCJDLUR-&index=4   The history and ending of public executions https://capitalpunishmentuk.org/the-ending-of-public-executions-in-the-19th-century/   TED talk about the bees disappearing https://www.ted.com/talks/marla_spivak_why_bees_are_disappearing

If we told you ‘Deathtrap’ was the poorer cousin of ‘Sleuth’ (see Episode 13), would that be a bad thing? It would certainly be a great double bill, and the film on the docket this time is full of surprises, deception and plot twists. It’s not on a par with Hitchcock's ‘Psycho’ but does follow a similar structure as the viewer is engaged in one story before the film becomes something else entirely   Film Gold regular Scott Phipps joins Antony for a fun moviewhose opening scene is ‘a movie of a play-within-a-play which takes place within the play on which the movie is based’. As well as Michael Caine and Christopher Reeve, we have the director with one of the greatest filmographiesever, Sidney Lumet, adapting a play by the legendary Ira Levin   What could go wrong?...   Enjoy!   'Film Gold' is on all the main podcast platforms.   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/filmgoldpod⁠ ⁠⁠  Twitter ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/FilmGold75⁠   Antony's website (blog, music, podcasts) ⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.antonyrotunno.com⁠   Antony’s John Lennon/Beatles and Psychology/Alt. Media podcasts⁠⁠ ⁠https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com⁠ ⁠https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com⁠   Support Antony’s podcast work (Film Gold, Glass Onion: On JohnLennon and Life And Life Only) at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ OR ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Scott’s podcasts ‘The Stinking Pause’, ‘Reel Britannia’ and ‘Rainbow Valley' ⁠https://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/stinkingpause⁠ https://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/reelbritannia https://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/rainbowvalley   episode links Deathtrap film pages and original trailer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathtrap_(film) https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083806/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AQ2GlTw7x4   That Kiss! (shock horror!!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd9ImWTVX8I   Michael Caine and Christopher Reeve interviews for the film https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFv0nVs_z7U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEPnsPtp3Pk&t=318s   Film Gold’s review of Sleuth (with Scott and his ReelBritannia co-host Steven https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/episode-13-sleuth-1972/id1544641271?i=1000542380256   Caine and Reeve reunited in ‘Noises Off’ (1992) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjkRw2GAxRo   What is Primal Therapy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_therapy   How to Better Understand the Rubik's Cube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK9XjwmseSk

Acting as a ‘gentle’ introduction to what will be a very challenging upcoming series of episodes, Antony offers some observations and questions on a sprawling range of topics, mostly focused on the harsh realities of this glorious world we inhabit.   How much do we want to know about what really goes on in our name, and what we inadvertently or actively support? What do, or should, we feel about the massive inequalities of power and resources that exist, and the exploitation of powerless humans and even more powerless animals?   This is a fairly ‘safe’ episode but the next ones could be extremely emotive and distressing to some. It must be stressed right off the bat that there is no guilt-tripping in this episode or the subsequent ones   We hope you find this of interest   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   episode links Global wealth distribution https://www.visualcapitalist.com/the-global-distribution-of-wealth-shown-in-one-pyramid/   Cultural reinforcement explained https://lifestyle.sustainability-directory.com/term/cultural-reinforcement/   Normalising the abnormal https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20240314-how-the-abnormal-gets-normalised-and-what-to-do-about-it   Brainwashing through television https://www.psychmechanics.com/how-tv-influences-your-mind-through/   Happy Egg Co, advert (this is so far from the truth you wouldn’t believe it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20B-4TYEajE   John Pilger- War By Other Means https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoPksGjLb7Y   Dutch historian offers truth bombs at Davos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paaen3b44XY&t=160s   Gabor Mate’s ‘The Myth of Normal’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58537332-the-myth-of-normal   ‘The Corporation’ (seminal documentary) https://thecorporation.com/   Douglas Valentine on this podcast (2021) https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com/e/episode-14-vietnam-the-cia-and-the-propaganda-war-with-douglas-valentine/   Chris Ryan’s ‘Tangentially Speaking’ podcast https://chrisryan.substack.com/podcast

The encounter between Piers Morgan and Russell Brand in April was, if nothing else, compelling and revealing. Despite their very different personae, they have had strangely similar journeys through some of the darker aspects of media and come out the other side, each now positioning himself as part of ‘alternative media’, whatever that exactly means, while still in contact with the mainstream.   Antony breaks down a quite bizarre conversation, with both protagonists wrestling for control and trying to direct things into the areas they would prepare to discuss. There are a few truth bombs detonated here, which many alt. media commentators seem to have missed as they focus only on a few moments of dead air.   Did Piers and Russell simply expose one another for who & what they are? How sincere are they, or is it all a grift from people well schooled in how to capture attention and often direct it? You decide (the full interview is in the show notes)   Following this, Antony offers a book recommendation, a couple of comments on a mental health shenanigans, and a few details of an amazing athletic achievement in London a few weeks ago   Enjoy!   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/lifeandlife75   Twitter https://twitter.com/lifeonly75   Support the show at: https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno OR https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno   Antony’s website (blog, music, podcasts, life coaching)  https://www.antonyrotunno.com   Antony’s John Lennon podcast https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com   If you are interested in very affordable Life Coaching, or know someone who might be, you can contact Antony on [email protected]   episode links Piers vs Russell in full https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv5tXkmEMyo&t=3s   Russell Brand: In Plain Sight (Channel 4 documentary) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR2bHA9lq1I&rco=1   Tom Secker on the allegations and the C4 doc https://www.spyculture.com/clandestime-special-the-russell-brand-allegations/   What would Prime Minister Brand do? (spoof) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKDKt0lh3Y0   George Carlin on who runs the world https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE3sYUJASLY   Chomsky schools Marr https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLcpcytUnWU   Bill Cooper predicts 9/11? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yuei07WHb0w   Dave Smith vs Douglas Murray (2025) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj9YcCOioZE   Gabor Mate’s ‘The Myth of Normal’ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58537332-the-myth-of-normal   Gabor with Russell on damaged leaders https://open.spotify.com/episode/2gTqgKRIwlpk1U0flTlSwx   A show about depression from the LALO archives https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com/e/episode-28-an-uplifting-conversation-about-depression/   The 2026 London Marathon in full https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIB3sS1fmS4&t=9709s   Sebastian Sawe’s achievement broken down (madness!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prwDzSGfdm8&t=273s   Club runners attempting to run at sub 2-hour marathon pace https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au5IVqD3Tmw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkBmYQucyMs&t=381s   Mark Lewis humiliates a 9-year-old park runner (not quite) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKkxiLf0flM

We round off our look at Rocky III by going through theremaining scenes of the film. Without issuing too many spoilers, Rocky comes a cropper and his life goes seriously south, motivation all but gone. However, just as Clarence the Angel came to rescue George Bailey in our very first filmreview on this show, Rocky’s old rival Apollo Creed swoops in with a two-word plan that could be said to be slightly Beatle-esque (a little something for Glass Onion fans there).   Mr T continues to shine as the menacing Clubber Lang, but thesecond half of the film certainly belongs to the burgeoning bromance between Rocky and Apollo. Adrian also plays her part with a stirring speech on the beach, and Burt Young’s Paulie emerges as wonderful comic relief.   Will Rocky ultimately prevail? Well, probably…   At some point in the conversation, Antony and Scott also takea tangential look at the movies of 1982 in general. We were truly spoiled in the days when films as incredible as ‘The Thing’ and ‘Blade Runner’ could drop on the same day!   Enjoy!   'Film Gold' is on all the main podcast platforms.   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/filmgoldpod⁠ ⁠⁠  Twitter ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/FilmGold75⁠   Antony's website (blog, music, podcasts) ⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.antonyrotunno.com⁠   Antony’s John Lennon/Beatles and Psychology/Alt. Mediapodcasts⁠⁠ ⁠https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com⁠ ⁠https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com⁠   Support Antony’s podcast work (Film Gold, Glass Onion: OnJohn Lennon and Life And Life Only) at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ OR ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Scott’s podcast ‘The Stinking Pause’ https://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/stinkingpause   episode links Rocky III film pages and official trailer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_III https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084602/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7vbDPUMWDc   ‘Rummy’s Corner’ on the Rocky sequels (guess which one helooks best) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_XcXWhtFT8   The start of a fine bromance! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXykRUEIchY   Adrian to the rescue (+ training montage) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIXia5HP9RI   ‘The Rocky Saga’ documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLlupHLXgvU   Tony Burton speech in ‘Rocky Balboa’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtjGvBnAxVE   Tony in ‘The Shining’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVo_LfK3B0k&t=1s   ‘Shining’ recut trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0   Travis is looking for love https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Avkk_Wxs0

Here’s part one of another swapcast with ‘The Stinking Pause’,hosted by Scott Phipps. This time round, Antony and Scott tackle the middle film of the original 5-film Rocky franchise (‘Rocky Balboa’ aka Rocky VI would eventuallyarrive after a long hiatus), a subject dear to both their hearts. After the gritty 1970s fairytale that was the original film,followed by Rocky’s redemptive rematch with Apollo Creed in Rocky II, the series enters a new decade and a new era. The man gatecrashing the Rocky and Apollo party is the unforgettable Clubber Lang, played by the utterly unique Mr T in the role that would soon after land him in ‘The A-Team’ and make him a household name. In this part, your humble hosts talk about their historieswith the series as a whole and discuss the other films in the franchise. They then start ploughing through Rocky III, including Rocky’s ‘friendly’ charity match with Hulk Hogan’s ‘Thunderlips’ and the lead-up to his defence of his titleagainst Clubber. Rocky Balboa is apparently now a ‘civilised’ champion. Oh dear…   Enjoy!   'Film Gold' is on all the main podcast platforms.   Feedback to [email protected]   Facebook⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.facebook.com/filmgoldpod⁠ ⁠⁠  Twitter ⁠⁠https://twitter.com/FilmGold75⁠   Antony's website (blog, music, podcasts) ⁠⁠ ⁠https://www.antonyrotunno.com⁠   Antony’s John Lennon/Beatles and Psychology/Alt. Mediapodcasts⁠⁠ ⁠https://glassoniononjohnlennon.com⁠ ⁠https://lifeandlifeonly.podbean.com⁠   Support Antony’s podcast work (Film Gold, Glass Onion: OnJohn Lennon and Life And Life Only) at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.paypal.com/paypalme/antonyrotunno⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ OR ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/antonyrotunno⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠   Scott’s podcast ‘The Stinking Pause’ https://directory.libsyn.com/shows/view/id/stinkingpause   episode links Rocky III film pages and official trailer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_III https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084602/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7vbDPUMWDc   Eye of the Tiger! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btPJPFnesV4   Opening montage with ‘Another One Bites The Dust’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lax4mSYaNJY   Mr. T’s ‘Treat Your Mother Right’ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RO6JiFztJdg   ‘The Rocky Saga’ documentary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLlupHLXgvU   Rocky IV Director’s Cut https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2GQedDhYuQ&list=PLsNNHvy7RZNSTHCSJjQAdkejD3EHMzPze