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#010 - How could a Navy SEAL benefit from meditation. Hack your potential to achieve anything. (With Mark Divine Navy SEAL legend, SEAL trainer, and spiritual warrior)

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Mark Divine is a former United States Navy SEAL. He is the founder of the Divine SEAL training system, which focuses on getting people to their goals in life by focusing on the journey, not the destination.


Mark's story began when he was just 14 years old. He had already been taking martial arts since he was 7 years old and had started training in karate and tae kwon do at a young age. He became interested in the world of martial arts because he saw how it could help him achieve his goals in life. He also attended Colgate University, where he earned a bachelor's degree in economics and competed on the men's swim and crew teams. [4] Divine joined PricewaterhouseCoopers (formerly Coopers & Lybrand) as a senior consultant after graduation, while studying for a Master of Business Administration at New York University Stern School of Business (graduated 1989) to become a Certified Public Accountant. [5] Divine began a parallel journey into zen meditation and Seido karate under the instruction of Grandmaster Tadashi Nakamura, where he chose to shift tracks and seek a career as a US Navy SEAL Officer. 


His military career spanned 20 years (1989-2011), during which he led missions in Asia Pacific, Africa, Bahrain, and Iraq[3]. In 2011, he retired with the rank of Commander. He now mainly focuses on helping other people reach their ultimate potential, through programs such as the SEAL fit, or books like “Unbeatable Mind”.


In today’s episode:


(1:05) Our guest Mark Divine Military leader, and distinctive mentor for SEAL trainees through SEAL fit.

(4:15) Mark’s childhood, his interest in meditation and endurance sports, and how he became a military leader.

(9:00) Mark’s decision to break the white-collar cycle and build his health.

(11:30) Mark’s interest in the ZEN culture and martial arts.

(16:00)  The benefits one can reap off meditation.

(18:10) Mark Divine’s search for purpose.

(21:15) Mark joins the navy SEAL.

(25:00) How to deal with codependency conditioning in families.

(28:20) The power of visualization.

(32:00) Mark’s leadership changes how Navy Seals train.

(35:00) The ego trap on the road to success.

(38:16) The learning curve in meditation.

(42:30) Definition of box breathing meditation and how it works.

(45:30) The witness state of consciousness is achieved by meditation.

(47:15) The way Mark implemented what he learned in SEAL training.

(48:10) Growing up in trauma can make you a Navy SEAL.

(50:00) The importance of presence Durant Mark’s combat experience.

(53:03) A key moment when endurance proved to have made Mark superhuman.

(56:30) The inspiration that pushed Mark to become the Cyborg.

(01:02) Mark Divine’s book ‘Unbeatable Mind’

(01:05:00) The Cyborg’s advice for everybody.

(1:08:00) The teachings of practising Kokoro.





“What I found is things are happening through us, not by us. Consciousness makes us alive, flows through us, and is us…We’re wired to develop an ego through all these layers of conditioning and then to think that we’re the doer.”


“ When it’s the fuck up we berate ourselves and judge ourselves which does no good whatsoever. And when it’s the glorious success our ego is super inflated and we become arrogant and pretend to be humble about it which makes it worse.”


“Meditation alone won’t get you there, this is why some of the great meditation teachers said that after enlightenment, you have got to take out the trash”.


“Concentration is the ability to harness your mind to be able to focus on just one thing is a prerequisite for meditation. In fact, Zen training is the concentration path.”


“Meditation is turning the light of your attention inward, looking for that pure awareness that is beyond ego constructs.”


“It’s a state of mind that is radically present, where time becomes almost under your control…These 4 skills that I talked about if trained can help develop the flow state where everything slows down and get a sense of everything around you.”


“Any endurance athlete can use their sports to train their mind, that’s why I’m not a fan of listening to music or e-books or anything. You should be managing your breath, your mind, and working on your mantra, visualising victory until you can activate flow on demand.”


“ Slow down and stop doing so much. Decommit, declutter, slow down and begin the practice of box breathing and your life will change.”



Links selected from this episode


  • Unbeatable Mind is a comprehensive online training program that teaches you step-by-step tactics for improving your mental clarity, attention, physical fitness, and awareness. 
  • Unbeatable Mind Book
  • Box breathing is a strong yet easy relaxation method that tries to restore regular breathing rhythms following a stressful encounter. It may aid in the clearing of the mind, relaxation of the body, and improvement of attention.


Box breathing consists of four fundamental stages, each lasting four seconds: breathing in

  1. holding the breath
  2. breathing out
  3. holding the breath
  4. breathing in


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