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Ep. 60: Quantifying Nonhuman Charisma, Slow Journalism, and Nat Geo's Out of Eden Project with Andrea Vale

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In this episode, Manasi and Sualeha sit down with Andrea Vale, a scientific expedition videographer and photographer and current staff writer at Freethink. Andrea has served as an ocean exploration filmmaker for organizations like the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and Oxford Anthroposea Expedition and has worked in remote, off-the-grid locations across the world. Previously, Andrea served on National Geographic’s Science and Exploration Team and as a Human Story Specialist on National Geographic’s Out of Eden Project—a 24,000-mile journalistic endeavor to create a global record of human life at the start of a new millennium as told by villagers, nomads, traders, farmers, soldiers, and artists who rarely make the news.

We kick off the episode by diving into Andrea’s experience at Oxford’s Biodiversity Program and her work in quantifying non-human charisma in landscapes, as well as her thoughts on how corporeal charisma applies to ecological conservation. Andrea also dives into her experience taking part in the Madrasa Discourses Project, through which she engaged in dialogue with Indian and Pakistani Islamic scholars to discuss the intersection of traditional Islamic thought and contemporary scientific and philosophical worldviews.

Andrea also elaborates on her work at the Out of Eden Project, and the role that slow journalism played in being able to dissect unknown stories, especially when working on-ground in a remote region of Punjab, India. Andrea also discusses her work managing the Out of Eden Walk Translation Community, and the impact that the linguistic nuance of culturally-dependent stories had on her understanding of translation and on the stories she was sharing. We wrap up this episode by discussing how Andrea approaches her current work as a cinematic storyteller when capturing aspects of nature and biodiversity—what is the line between cinema and reality, and how do storytellers balance it when seeking to highlight universal truths?

Andrea’s Portfolio: https://www.andreavale.com/

Out of Eden Project (still ongoing!): https://outofedenwalk.nationalgeographic.org/

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