
Your Students Can't Explore If You Already Have the Answer
What if the worst thing you could bring to tomorrow's lesson is the answer?
For part one of my S6E9 Schoolutions conversation, I sat down with Dr. Annalies Corbin, an anthropologist and archaeologist who has spent her career excavating shipwrecks. Every dig starts the same way. Nobody knows for sure what's down there. Annalies believes every lesson should start that way too.
She founded the PAST Foundation, which has helped schools in 42 states connect classroom learning to real-world problem solving, and she hosts the Learning Unboxed podcast. In part one, she shows teachers and school leaders why walking in with the outcome already decided shuts down student engagement before the bell rings. Then she gives us one thing to try tomorrow.
In this episode:
➡️Why showing up with the answer takes away a student's chance to explore and question
➡️How studying mistakes in math class builds deeper thinking than chasing the right answer
➡️The difference between strategic instruction and real-world systems learning, and why systems thinkers matter more as technology speeds up
➡️How pre-K and kindergarten teachers can protect play and imagination while still building readiness
➡️The five instructional strategies every lasting school program shares, from her book Hacking School: student agency, culturally responsive teaching, mastery, transdisciplinary learning, and problem-based instruction
➡️Transdisciplinary vs. interdisciplinary, explained with biology, cell structure, and modern civics
➡️Why real-world problem solving isn't about projects
➡️The tiny Frozen Charlotte doll she found tucked inside a 19th-century woodworker's toolbox
➡️The one word teachers need permission for: explore
Three questions for your lesson planning:
1. Think about the last lesson you taught. Did you know how it would end before your students walked in?
2. Which of the five strategies is missing from your classroom right now?
3. What do you love doing on a Saturday, and how could it show up in next week's lesson?
Episode Mentions:
💫Hacking School by Dr. Annalies Corbin
💫Learning Unboxed podcast
💫PAST Foundation
💫Education Reimagined
💫Wild Design for Learning: Moving from a Factory Mindset to a Forest Model by Gwyneth Hagan
Chapters:
0:00 Three questions for you
1:00 Meet Dr. Annalies Corbin
2:05 What shipwrecks teach us about how kids learn
3:15 Let go of the outcome before the lesson starts
4:15 Math, mistakes, and the messy middle
4:50 Strategic vs. systems learning
7:15 Collaboration over competition
8:15 Curiosity and play with young learners
10:30 Five Hacking School strategies
12:45 Trans- vs. interdisciplinary
14:00 It's not about projects
15:45 After the Bell
16:30 Her favorite artifact: a Frozen Charlotte doll
17:40 Students' big ideas
18:35 Permission to explore
19:00 Teach your passion
20:00 Learning ecosystems
21:20 Coming in Part II
Coming in Part Two:
Dr. Corbin explains why scaling a great program is a mistake. She gives school administrators three questions to ask every teaching candidate. And she shows how to land an industry partner within one block of your school.
Partner with Me:
Letting go of the answer takes a teacher who trusts their own expertise. I build that trust with teachers, instructional coaches, and school leaders. If your team is tired of the same-lesson, same-day pacing calendar and wants learning built around real problems, let's talk. Book a teacher coaching or consulting call here.
Schoolutions is the podcast for educators and caregivers who are ready to grow alongside their children. Each episode delivers research-backed strategies rooted in the five practices of expert teachers from my upcoming book, Forever Getting Better: Five Essential Practices for Reclaiming Teacher Expertise, so every student finds their spark and receives the support they need to thrive.
When teachers, coaches, administrators, and families grow together, schools change. Students get engaged, get support, and get the chance to thrive.
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