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The only KPI a retention marketer should be thinking about..

15.9.2026
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This is the the most Important number in Retention Marketing nobody tracks


Every brand celebrates new customer count. On this week’s episode, Jimmy Kim and Chase Dimond argue that’s the wrong number to be proud of, and that the real moment that determines a customer’s lifetime value is the second purchase, not the first.


They break down why a first-time buyer isn’t really a customer yet, just someone willing to give you a chance, and why the shift from trial to identity is the actual psychological threshold every retention program should be built around.


What we cover:

→ Why repeat purchase probability compounds after the second order, and what that means for your acquisition budget

→ The psychological difference between a first purchase (trial) and a second purchase (identity)

→ Why discounting the second purchase trains the exact behavior you don’t want

→ How to find your product’s natural reorder window instead of guessing

→ 5 concrete playbooks for the post-purchase window: post-purchase sequence, replenishment nudge, cross-sell, bounce-back offer, and subscription conversion

→ The two numbers almost no brand tracks: cohort-based repeat purchase rate and median time to second order


If you’ve ever wondered why your acquisition numbers look great but revenue feels flat, this episode explains where the leak actually is.


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00:00 Intro

01:12 New Customers Aren’t Loyal

03:29 Why Second Purchase Matters

07:03 Trial to Identity Shift

08:49 Omnisend Migration Sponsor

10:57 Post Purchase Builds Trust

13:25 Timing by Category

16:19 Retention.com BFCM Sponsor

17:29 Email vs SMS Phases

19:16 Five Second Purchase Playbooks

24:03 Ecom Email Certified Plug

25:13 Measure Cohorts and Timing

28:10 Wrap Up and Homework


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Send It! is the podcast where Jimmy Kim and Chase Dimond break down everything retention marketing — email, SMS, and ecommerce growth.


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