406: How Did The Launch of the Super Premium Rosé Whispering Angel from Château D'esclans Change Provence?

How did Sacha Lichine's launch of Garrus and Whispering Angel from Château d'Esclans, which now exceeds 10 million bottles a year change Provence? What happens to a wine region when historic family estates are increasingly bought by wealthy outsiders and corporations? How can classifying wine by colour get in the way of understanding what's actually in the glass? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Liz Gabay and Ben Bernheim.   You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Two of you are going to win a copy of Liz Gabay and Ben Bernheim's terrific book, The Wines of Provence. To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected]. I'll choose two people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights How did Liz and Ben end up working on Kylie Minogue's Rosé? How involved are celebrities in the wines that carry their names? What happens to a wine region when historic family estates are increasingly bought by celebrities, corporations, and wealthy outsiders? How did Garrus and Whispering Angel prove that consumers would pay serious money for Provence Rosé? Why do Liz and Ben push back against the idea that expensive, oak-aged Rosé is not real Rosé? How can classifying wines by colour get in the way of understanding what is in the glass? Where is the line between dark Rosé, a chilled red, and the emerging category sometimes called blouge? Could Provence's future lie in fresh, chilled reds that blur the traditional boundaries between red and Rosé? Why should winemakers worry less about categories and focus more on making the best wine they can? Can fine Rosé really age for decades and what happens to its flavours as it gets older?   About Elizabeth Gabay MW & Ben Bernheim Elizabeth Gabay MW entered the wine trade in 1986, founding Elizabeth Gabay & Partners. She became a Master of Wine in 1998. She has lived in south-eastern France since 2002, and is currently based in the Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur region. Since 2020 she has been working with her son Ben Bernheim. They write for numerous magazines with a global readership, largely, but not only, about rosé and are regular speakers at wine fairs and competitions. Elizabeth is the author of Rosé: Understanding The Pink Wine Revolution in the Classic Wine Library series, and Rosés of Southern France, which she co-authored with Ben Bernheim. Gabay and Bernheim make their own wine in Slovakia, in partnership with Vladimir Magula and have consulted with other producers on rosé, including Kylie Minogue. Together they organise a rosé writing competition and trade events, including their Fine Rosé Day.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/406.

How is Provence far more diverse as a wine region than just Rosé? Why has Rosé struggled to be taken seriously by wine professionals despite its enormous popularity with consumers? Does Provence make the best Rosé in the world or simply the best Rosé in its style? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Liz Gabay and Ben Bernheim. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Two of you are going to win a copy of Liz Gabay and Ben Bernheim's terrific book, The Wines of Provence. To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected]. I'll choose two people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights What surprised Liz and Ben most when they started digging deeper into the wines of Provence? How do Provence's mountains, valleys, rainfall, and winds create dramatically different wine regions within a relatively small area? How have the wines of Provence changed since Liz first started visiting vineyards there 40 years ago? Why did Provence wineries once use unusual bottle shapes to distinguish their wines? What was the hardest part of becoming a Master of Wine for Liz? Why has Rosé historically struggled to be taken seriously by wine professionals despite its popularity with consumers? How did growing up around wine and competitive blind tasting shape Ben's approach to writing about it? What happens when a mother and son with very different writing styles collaborate on a wine book? Why do Liz and Ben disagree over whether Provence should focus so heavily on Rosé? Could some of Provence's best wines actually be reds rather than Rosés? Why does Liz believe Provence-style Rosé is not necessarily the best in the world?   About Elizabeth Gabay MW & Ben Bernheim Elizabeth Gabay MW entered the wine trade in 1986, founding Elizabeth Gabay & Partners. She became a Master of Wine in 1998. She has lived in south-eastern France since 2002, and is currently based in the Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur region. Since 2020 she has been working with her son Ben Bernheim. They write for numerous magazines with a global readership, largely, but not only, about rosé and are regular speakers at wine fairs and competitions. Elizabeth is the author of Rosé: Understanding The Pink Wine Revolution in the Classic Wine Library series, and Rosés of Southern France, which she co-authored with Ben Bernheim. Gabay and Bernheim make their own wine in Slovakia, in partnership with Vladimir Magula and have consulted with other producers on Rosé, including Kylie Minogue. Together they organise a rosé writing competition and trade events, including their Fine Rosé Day.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/405.

What's the difference between a wine that's lean and one that's thin? Why is asking for a "smooth" wine one of the least helpful ways to describe what you actually want? What's the fastest way to learn more about wine without feeling intimidated? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Maryse Chevriere, author of the terrific new book, How to Sound Wine Smart. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Three of you are going to win a copy of Maryse Chevriere's terrific book, How to Sound Wine Smart: An Illustrated Guide. To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected]. I'll choose three people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights Why does swirling completely change the personality of some wines? How can you use personal memories when describing wine? Why are wine professionals so obsessed with high-acid wines? What makes a wine lean rather than simply thin? Why does Maryse think asking for a "smooth" wine isn't enough to find the right bottle? When does Brettanomyces add character to a wine versus being a flaw? Can decanting Champagne actually improve it? How does Maryse convince lifelong Chardonnay skeptics to give the grape another chance? When does pairing red wine with fish work? Why should you drink outside your comfort zone rather than stick to familiar grapes? What's the fastest way to learn more about wine without feeling intimidated?   About Maryse Chevriere Maryse Chevriere is a writer, wine professional, and illustrator living in Boston, Massachusetts. A certified sommelier, her career in wine has spanned across New York City, San Francisco, and Boston, where she has enjoyed roles as a retail consultant, restaurant wine director, and distribution sales representative. Her witty, whimsical "drunk doodles" have been published in print and online in Bon Appétit, Food & Wine, Wine Enthusiast, and more. Her printed work has appeared in restaurants and wine bars in New York City, Washington, DC, Boston, and London. In 2016, her Instagram @FreshCutGardenHose was honored with a prestigious James Beard Award in the category of humor. In 2020, her account was nominated as a finalist for a IACP Digital Media Award. Maryse is a fervent proponent of living life glass (at least) half full and believes that learning and talking about wine should be as accessible and fun as drinking it is.     To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/404.

How can a hospitality disaster completely change your approach to wine and service? When do wine tasting notes become so over-the-top that they stop meaning anything? What makes natural wine like an unfiltered snapshot of a single moment? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Maryse Chevriere, author of the new book How to Sound Wine Smart. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Three of you are going to win a copy of Maryse Chevriere's terrific book, How to Sound Wine Smart: An Illustrated Guide. To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected]. I'll choose three people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights What was Maryse's most mortifying moment while working as a sommelier? Does wine education need more humour and plain language? What finally convinced Maryse to move from food writing into the wine world? How did working a harvest in Alsace shape the way Maryse thinks about natural wine? Why is working in a wine shop as much about listening as it is about recommending? Why are underdog grapes like Riesling and Chenin Blanc some of Maryse's favourites? How did a wine bar bathroom wallpaper eventually lead to Maryse's book deal? Why does Maryse describe a "loud" wine as one of her favourite tasting terms? What inspired the name Fresh Cut Garden Hose, and why has it become such a perfect fit for her illustrations? Why does Maryse think "sweet" is one of the most misunderstood words in wine? Why have tasting notes become so over-the-top?   About Maryse Chevriere Maryse Chevriere is a writer, wine professional, and illustrator living in Boston, Massachusetts. A certified sommelier, her career in wine has spanned across New York City, San Francisco, and Boston, where she has enjoyed roles as a retail consultant, restaurant wine director, and distribution sales representative. Her witty, whimsical "drunk doodles" have been published in print and online in Bon Appétit, Food & Wine, Wine Enthusiast, and more. Her printed work has appeared in restaurants and wine bars in New York City, Washington, DC, Boston, and London. In 2016, her Instagram @FreshCutGardenHose was honored with a prestigious James Beard Award in the category of humor. In 2020, her account was nominated as a finalist for a IACP Digital Media Award. Maryse is a fervent proponent of living life glass (at least) half full and believes that learning and talking about wine should be as accessible and fun as drinking it is.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/403.

How do our personal memories shape the aromas we recognize in wine? What incredible Argentine wines are people missing when they focus only on Malbec? Why do food and wines from the same region often pair beautifully even when they break the usual rules? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Marisol de la Fuente. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Highlights How did a student's memory of his grandmother help Marisol explain aroma in wine tasting? Why might an old wine remind someone of sushi? Why does Torrontés pair unexpectedly well with Argentine empanadas? How can molecular pairing create surprising matches like white chocolate with caviar? Why does Marisol say wine changes with age rather than automatically improving? What is the biggest misconception people have about aging wine? Why does Marisol believe Argentina is known too narrowly for Malbec? What does Argentina need to do better to show the world its full range of wines? How did winning Wine Communicator of the Year change Marisol's place in the global wine conversation? Why does Marisol believe wine communication should never feel too solemn? What childhood comfort food would Marisol pair with white wine today? Why does Marisol believe constant study and research matter most in wine communication?   About Marisol de la Fuente Marisol de la Fuente is an international sommelier, graduated from the Argentine School of Sommeliers, a bartender trained at the International Center of Cocktail Arts, and a journalist. She communicates about the world of wine and beverages to bring it closer to consumers. She is a columnist on Canal de la Ciudad, where she presents a different segment every week in a simple and entertaining manner. On Vinimos, her wine podcast, she answers the most common consumer questions alongside Ariel Torres, journalist at La Nación. She teaches her course "El vino, sin vueltas" in a live online format and also works as an instructor in the sommelier programs. Beyond her passion for wine, she has 25 years of experience in marketing, communication, and PR in multinational companies, and she is a Digital Marketing lecturer and consultant for companies in the wine and beverage industry.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/402.

How did Argentina help save Europe's vineyards during the devastating phylloxera crisis? Why is wine still treated as an exclusive product despite being more accessible than ever? How can vineyards that endure extreme temperatures still produce elegant, vibrant wines? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Marisol de la Fuente. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Highlights What made Marisol leave a successful corporate career to become a sommelier? Why did Marisol build her wine content around beginners instead of wine experts? How did identifying a single aroma in a wine tasting convince Marisol she belonged in the wine world? What wine myths does Marisol most want consumers to stop believing? Which modern wine trends are actually thousands of years old? Why is wine still treated as an exclusive product, despite being more accessible than ever? How did Argentina help save Europe's vineyards during the phylloxera crisis? Why do Argentina's southernmost vineyards produce such elegant, fresh wines despite their extreme climate? Why does Marisol believe making great white wine is even more difficult than making great red wine? What do the terms Brut, Extra Brut, and Demi-Sec on sparkling wines really mean? Which common sparkling wine misconception might surprise consumers the most?   About Marisol de la Fuente Marisol de la Fuente is an international sommelier, graduated from the Argentine School of Sommeliers, a bartender trained at the International Center of Cocktail Arts, and a journalist. She communicates about the world of wine and beverages to bring it closer to consumers. She is a columnist on Canal de la Ciudad, where she presents a different segment every week in a simple and entertaining manner. On Vinimos, her wine podcast, she answers the most common consumer questions alongside Ariel Torres, journalist at La Nación. She teaches her course "El vino, sin vueltas" in a live online format and also works as an instructor in the sommelier programs. Beyond her passion for wine, she has 25 years of experience in marketing, communication, and PR in multinational companies, and she is a Digital Marketing lecturer and consultant for companies in the wine and beverage industry.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/401.

Why is the Daiquiri with just rum, lime and sugar used as a litmus test to see if a bartender is capable of making a decent drink? What is oleo saccharum and why is it a gorgeous way to sweeten sophisticated cocktails? What is tepeche and why do fermenting pineapples make a delicious cocktail? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Kaitlyn Stewart, author of Three Cheers: Cocktails Three Ways: Classics, Riffs, and Zero-Proof Sips. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Three of you are going to win a copy of Kaitlyn Stewart's terrific new book, Three Cheers: Cocktails Three Ways: Classics, Riffs, and Zero-Proof Sips. To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected] and let me know that you've posted a review of the podcast. I'll choose two people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights Why did bartenders once spend 12 minutes shaking a single Ramos Gin Fizz? What's the most unusual vessel Kaitlyn has ever served a cocktail in? Why is the Hugo Spritz replacing the Aperol Spritz as one of today's hottest cocktails? What makes Vancouver's historic Hotel Georgia cocktail so distinctive? How did sailors accidentally create one of cocktail history's most useful ingredients? How can you turn pineapple scraps into a naturally fermented drink instead of throwing them away? What simple kitchen tool can replace the traditional dry shake for egg white cocktails? Why does Kaitlyn believe the classic Daiquiri is the ultimate test of a bartender's skill? How did Kaitlyn create a Negroni that even she enjoys drinking? What's the strangest drink request Kaitlyn has ever received, and why won't she judge anyone's order? Why is the Margarita still Kaitlyn's favourite cocktail after more than 20 years behind the bar? What questions should you ask when you don't know what cocktail to order? What are Kaitlyn's three biggest tips for making better cocktails at home?   About Kaitlyn Stewart Kaitlyn Stewart is an internationally recognized, global bartending champion with over 20 years of hospitality experience. In 2017, she became the first Canadian to win the prestigious title of Diageo's World Class Bartender of the Year. Beyond the bar, she is an author, recipe developer, consultant, and content creator with nearly a million followers across her Likeable Cocktails social platforms. Kaitlyn travels extensively to conduct seminars, judge cocktail competitions, and host guest shifts at some of the world's top bars. She was recently ranked #65 on the Drinks International Bar World 100 most influential people list and recognized as one of the Imbibe 75 "Ones to Watch." Additionally, she has been a multi-time nominee and short-list finalist for the Tales of the Cocktail Spirited Awards in the categories of International Bar Mentor and Best Broadcast, Podcast, or Social Media Channel.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/400.

How does it feel competing against the world's best bartenders making six cocktails in six minutes in front of a large audience? How can bartending become a form of storytelling instead of simply making drinks? How did the Mojito begin as a 16th-century medical remedy? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Kaitlyn Stewart, the first Canadian to win the prestigious title of World Class Bartender of the Year and author of the book, Three Cheers: Cocktails Three Ways: Classics, Riffs, and Zero-Proof Sips. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Three of you are going to win a copy of Kaitlyn Stewart's terrific new book, Three Cheers: Cocktails Three Ways: Classics, Riffs, and Zero-Proof Sips. To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected] and let me know that you've posted a review of the podcast. I'll choose two people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights How did growing up in her parents' restaurant shape Kaitlyn's career in hospitality? How did a mentor show Kaitlyn that bartending could combine storytelling, creativity, and performance? What was it like competing to make six cocktails in six minutes inside a Mexican wrestling ring? How did Kaitlyn become the first Canadian to win World Class Bartender of the Year? Why does Kaitlyn believe the world's greatest cocktails have stood the test of time? Why did Kaitlyn design her cocktail book with classic, modern, and alcohol-free versions of every drink? How does the Manhattan cocktail secretly contain New York City's 212 area code? Which classic cocktail has the strangest origin story? How did the Mojito begin as a medical remedy more than 400 years ago? What inspired the invention of the now-famous Espresso Martini?   About Kaitlyn Stewart Kaitlyn Stewart is an internationally recognized, global bartending champion with over 20 years of hospitality experience. In 2017, she became the first Canadian to win the prestigious title of Diageo's World Class Bartender of the Year. Beyond the bar, she is an author, recipe developer, consultant, and content creator with nearly a million followers across her Likeable Cocktails social platforms. Kaitlyn travels extensively to conduct seminars, judge cocktail competitions, and host guest shifts at some of the world's top bars. She was recently ranked #65 on the Drinks International Bar World 100 most influential people list and recognized as one of the Imbibe 75 "Ones to Watch." Additionally, she has been a multi-time nominee and short-list finalist for the Tales of the Cocktail Spirited Awards in the categories of International Bar Mentor and Best Broadcast, Podcast, or Social Media Channel.       To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/399.

How did a single decision trigger Sherry's decline from Britain's favourite drink? What would it take for Sherry to make a comeback after decades of decline? How can you make the most out of your trip to the Sherry region of Spain? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Ben Howkins, author of a new book on Sherry. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Two of you are going to win a copy of Ben Howkin's terrific book, Sherry: Maligned, Misunderstood, Magnificent! To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected] and let me know that you've posted a review of the podcast. I'll choose two people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights Why was Pedro Ximénez once considered too valuable to bottle on its own? Why did Shakespeare mention Sherry so often in his plays? How did Sherry become one of the world's most popular wines before its dramatic decline? How did one businessman almost single-handedly bring down the modern Sherry industry? Why did people in Jerez say José María Ruiz-Mateos had turned wine back into water? How has the collapse in Sherry sales unexpectedly created a rare opportunity for wine lovers? Why does Ben believe the world's finest old Sherries remain one of wine's greatest bargains? What would it take for Sherry to become fashionable again? Why are small independent bodegas giving Ben renewed hope for the future of Sherry? What makes a visit to Jerez unlike any other wine region in the world? How did Ben help revive one of Europe's oldest and most celebrated sweet wines after the fall of the Iron Curtain? Why did Hungary insist on calling it the Royal Tokaji Wine Company instead of the Imperial Tokaji Wine Company? What does "five puttonyos" actually mean on a bottle of Tokaji? After a lifetime in wine, what advice does Ben have for anyone looking to enjoy wine more?   About Ben Howkins Ben Howkins is widely regarded as the UK's leading writer and expert on port and sherry. In 1963, he became the youngest recipient of the Vintners Scholarship, an experience that took him across Europe's vineyards and helped shape his lifelong passion for wine education, particularly fortified and dessert wines. A prolific author, he has written extensively for both consumer and trade publications. His books include Rich, Rare & Red, Real Men Drink Port… and Ladies Do Too!, Sherry and Adventures in the Wine Trade. He is a member of the Vintners' Company and has lectured for the Wine & Spirit Education Trust, where he also served as a Trustee. An international wine judge and public speaker, he has led vineyard tours across Europe and South America and promoted wine globally, including in the USA and China. He is co-founder of the Royal Tokaji Wine Company and a key figure in reviving Tokaji Aszú's global reputation.         To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/398.

How does the Solera system give every glass of sherry centuries of history? How does Sherry's "second terroir" shape the wine just as much as the vineyard itself? Why should every great wine cellar have mature, dry Sherry? In this episode of the Unreserved Wine Talk podcast, I'm chatting with Ben Howkins, who has just published a new book on Sherry. You can find the wines we discussed at https://www.nataliemaclean.com/winepicks.   Giveaway Two of you are going to win a copy of Ben Howkin's terrific book, Sherry: Maligned, Misunderstood, Magnificent! To qualify, all you have to do is email me at [email protected] and let me know that you've posted a review of the podcast. I'll choose two people randomly from those who contact me. Good luck!   Highlights How did Ben win one of the wine world's most prestigious scholarships with a single word? Why does Ben still remember his very first glass of Fino Sherry more than 60 years later? What makes the Solera system one of the most remarkable ageing methods in the wine world? How can every bottle of Sherry contain traces of wines made generations ago? Can the position of a single barrel inside a bodega really change the taste of the wine? What makes old Amontillado sherry such a thrilling wine to taste? Why do the chalky white soils of Jerez have so much in common with Champagne and southern England? What are the key differences between the fortified wines Port and Sherry? How did the aftermath of the Spanish Civil War shape Ben's first impressions of Jerez? What might you be surprised to discover about the world's greatest Sherries? What does "en rama" mean, and why are Sherry lovers so excited whenever they see it on a bottle? Why is Palo Cortado considered the most mysterious style of Sherry?   About Ben Howkins Ben Howkins is widely regarded as the UK's leading writer and expert on port and sherry. In 1963, he became the youngest recipient of the Vintners Scholarship, an experience that took him across Europe's vineyards and helped shape his lifelong passion for wine education, particularly fortified and dessert wines. A prolific author, he has written extensively for both consumer and trade publications. His books include Rich, Rare & Red, Real Men Drink Port… and Ladies Do Too!, Sherry and Adventures in the Wine Trade. He is a member of the Vintners' Company and has lectured for the Wine & Spirit Education Trust, where he also served as a Trustee. An international wine judge and public speaker, he has led vineyard tours across Europe and South America and promoted wine globally, including in the USA and China. He is co-founder of the Royal Tokaji Wine Company and a key figure in reviving Tokaji Aszú's global reputation.         To learn more, visit https://www.nataliemaclean.com/397.