L&O: She didn't die on 9/11. She was MURDERED!

Briscoe and Green investigate a skeleton with a diamond ring on her right hand and her left one missing. The detectives are shocked to learn it's Kelly Sommers, whose left hand and purse were discovered years earlier at Ground Zero. The detectives trace the ring to a Senator's son who'd been having an affair with Kelly. Lenny and Ed learn Bradley Hagen took his mistress to dinner on the night of September 10th. McCoy prosecutes the son of Branch's biggest campaign contributor. Kelly's fiancé identifies the handbag she took to work on September 11th, but Southerlyn realizes it's a night-on-the-town bag and not a go-to-work bag. They realize it was the fiancé who killed Kelly, left her hand at the World Trade Center, and collected a fortune in 9/11 reparations.   We're talking about Law & Order season 13 episode 5 "The Ring." Our guest from our July 29, 2020 episode is the author of the Shadow and Bone and Six of Crows series Leigh Bardugo. The episode is based on the ripped-from-the-headlines story of Sneha Anne Philip.   New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Elliot Stabler and his new partner/work crush Dani Beck look for whoever fled after trying to kidnap two children. Eden (played by a young Elle Fanning) says her sister is still missing and Marc stabs Stabler with a pen. Fin and Munch think this a part of a child smuggling operation connected to a sketchy adoption agency. The detectives recover an audiotape of a child being smothered in a "rebirthing" ceremony. Stabler and Beck then arrest some foster parents who've been keeping their children in cages. Novak can't get a conviction because the kids won't testify against the abusive adults. To help Eden feel safe, Dani agrees to let the child sleep at her place. She awakes after Eden (who clearly has some issues to work through) tries to burn the room down. Burned out herself, Dani tells Elliot she's not cut out for SVU. And despite their smoldering longing for each other, she walks out of his life forever. We’re looking at Special Victims Unit season 8 episode 8 “Cage.” Our guest from our November 21, 2018 episode is Vaya Pashos from the Buddywatch podcast. This episode is inspired by the rebirthing death of Candace Newmaker. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

While performing a rape fantasy sequence during her livestream, cam girl Zoe is attacked by an intruder. Captain Benson discovers the assailant is one of her fans. "ShyGabe" tells Fin he believes Zoe is in love with him and he thought she was inviting him over to role play. The victim tells Kat she does not want her double life exposed. ADA Carisi believes a jury may not convict Gabe if they think the performer consented to the violent sex.  Gabe represents himself at trial, using the opportunity to get Zoe to admit she said "I love you" to him in private chat rooms. Carisi counters by putting Zoe's other fans on the stand, all of whom say the cam girl said the same things to them. Gabe becomes jealous and has an outburst in court, pulling the COVID-era Plexiglas right off the witness stand.   We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 22 episode 5 "Turn Me On Take Me Private." Our guest is Ronald Young Jr. from the Weight For It podcast. This episode takes some inspiration from the 2018 case of Grant Amato. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Detectives Lenny Briscoe and Ed Green track down a young family that skipped town, leaving behind a bloody crib. Each parent claims the other fled with the baby. When the detectives find the infant’s body buried in a backyard, Dr. Rogers determines he starved to death. A lactation specialist tells ADA Abbie Carmichael the mom refused to breastfeed, so EADA Jack McCoy assigns Carmichael to go solo and prosecute the mother for manslaughter. The defense argues the child starved because the father refused to help and the specialist pressured her to not use formula. Carmichael counters that if a woman chooses to have a baby, she must take responsibility for that child. We're talking about Law & Order season 10 episode 12 "Mother's Milk." Our guest is Thaddeus Danquah from the "Happy Media" podcast. This episode takes some inspiration from the 1999 case of Tabitha Walrond.     New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Detectives Benson and Stabler are called in when an infant dies after drinking baby formula mixed with cocaine. When more tainted formula is found in the home of Derek Pfeiffer, Fin and Munch suspect he's been smuggling in the liquid coke from Mexico. But things take a turn when IAB takes over the investigation and Pfeiffer is murdered. Cragen strong-arms Tucker to let Elliot go undercover and infiltrate the drug ring. It's managed by a dirty cop, and when a sting goes sideways, Stabler is forced to shoot him in self-defense.  Still looking for the kingpin, Benson and Cragen learn Pfeiffer never had a baby. His wife had been taking her infant nephew to Mexico as a cover to smuggle the formula.  Now the kingpin is tying up loose ends by killing Mrs. Pfeiffer and all the other mothers who rented their babies as drug mules.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 4 episode 12 "Risk." Our guest is Mel Barrett from the "Something's Off" and "The Inbetween" podcasts.Some inspiration for this episode comes from the 1992 case of NYPD officer Michael Dowd. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A retired cop tells Detective Elliot Stabler the perp he's looking for is Ray Schenkel (played by Robert Patrick), who got out of jail the morning a girl was raped. Schenkel had kidnapped victims with the help of his cousin, and Huang predicts he'll seek a new partner. Stabler poses as a sex offender, befriends Schenkel, and joins his therapy group to monitor his actions. They set up a sting, but he resists attacking their decoy. Captain Cragen thinks Schenkel might be sincere in his effort to change his ways, but Detective Olivia Benson thinks it's just a matter of time. Even undercover, Stabler cannot hide his anger issues from the therapist. Schenkel finally gives into his urges. He kidnaps a girl and drives to an abandoned factory where he orders Elliot to rape her. The girl escapes, but Stabler and Schenkel are left to confront one another...and confront their own demons.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 7 episode 1 "Demons." Our guest is Chris Farrah from the Vanity Farrah podcast.This episode takes some cues from the Hillside Strangler case. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Three young boys are killed by a car bomb, their mother Doreen and older brother in the front seat are the only survivors. Detectives Goren and Eames learn Paul Whitlock developed a new kind of land mine and his wife had spotted some threatening-looking Middle Eastern men before the blast.  But there are indications the pipe bomb was built in their garage and someone swept it up. Bobby and Alex suspect the depressed Doreen blew up the car in a murder/suicide attempt.ADA Ron Carver insists the overbearing husband is their best suspect. The detectives find a space heater Doreen tampered with to leak carbon monoxide. The overwhelmed mother confesses she wanted to take the children to heaven with her, where she could be a better parent. But Goren and Eames discover the cold-blooded Whitlock knew Doreen wanted to die and was fine if she did - he just didn’t know the children would get hurt. Enraged at his cruelty, the detectives insist Carver hold him legally responsible, but he says there’s no crime in not stopping your wife from killing herself and her family.We’re talking about Law & Order: Criminal Intent season 4 episode 7 “Magnificat.” Our returning guest is Katie from the A Date with Dateline podcast.Plot points in this episode are inspired by the 2001 case of Andrea Yates. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lt Olivia Benson helps a victim who can't remember the details of her attack the previous day. Laurel Linwood is spiraling emotionally. She says after her father's funeral she wound up in a bar, met a man with the same after-shave and expensive watch as her father, and now has vague memories of a pair of scissors. The SVU investigation shifts after Detectives Fin Tutuola and Sonny Carisi find the suspect dead. Laurel tries to bond with Olivia over emotionally distant fathers who never loved them. Laurel says her dad had sex with her as a child, but the details aren't adding up. Olivia realizes she's describing events that only happened to her younger sister, and that actually Laurel is jealous of the attention she got. The suspect admits she killed the man because he reminded him of her father, someone who never loved her enough.We're talking about the very dark Special Victims Unit season 19 episode seven "Something Happened." Our returning guest is Roberta Blevins from the "Life After MLM" podcast.We were told this episode has parallels to the life of Crystal Mangum, but if it does, we don't know what they are. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

After a health insurance executive is gunned down on the sidewalk by a vigilante, Det. Vincent Riley chases the suspect all over Manhattan. Lt. Jessica Brady discovers, not only are citizens unwilling to help them find the fugitive, people start dressing like him to disrupt their manhunt. ADA Samantha Maroun says Ethan Weller targeted OptiShield's CEO because the company denied his late mother's claim for an experimental drug. DA Nicholas Baxter worries the jury will not convict a defendant who's gained folk hero status for killing a man who represents the worst kind of corporate greed. EADA Nolan Price thinks it's a slam dunk murder conviction, but an activist judge seems eager to see Weller go free.We're talking about Law & Order season 24 episode 16 "Folk Hero." Our returning guest is Ellyn Marsh from the "I Think Not" podcast.This episode is inspired by the case of Luigi Mangione. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Det. Stabler and Cpt. Cragen investigate what they think is a botched kidnapping at a playground that left a toddler in a coma. They give up the hunt for a creepy guy with a camera when doctors determine little Lucy's injuries occurred days earlier when she was violently shaken. Though suspicion falls on the nanny, Stabler homes in on Lucy's widowed mother, Evelyn. After ADA Novak puts the mom on trial, the child's condition worsens. If Evelyn keeps Lucy on life support, her daughter will suffer immense pain. If she takes her off the respirator, the charges will be upgraded to murder. Stabler appeals directly to DA Branch to get the court to end the child's suffering. In court, Evelyn admits she shook Lucy because she didn't want the child to interrupt a night of romance. Later, Stabler confides in Cragen about a time he took out his frustrations on his own baby daughter.We're talking about Special Victims Unit season 5 episode 10 "Shaken." Our guest is Jessica Spawn from the Gal on the Prowl podcast.This episode takes its inspiration from the 1997 case of Louise Woodward. New episodes of These Are Their Stories will return July 8! For exclusive content from Kevin and Rebecca, sign up on Patreon.This show was recorded in The Caitlin Rogers Project Studio. Click to find out more. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.