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Golf Genius: $53M ARR, $10M Self-Funded, Zero VC — Mike Zisman

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How do you build a $53M ARR software company, stay profitable for eight straight years, and give 60% of the cap table to your employees — without ever taking a venture check?

Mike Zisman is the founder and CEO of Golf Genius, the dominant tournament management and handicapping platform for golf clubs worldwide. He self-funded $10M of his own money as interest-free debt, did 10 acquisitions before hitting $60M in revenue, and today sits on $14M cash while printing 20% EBITDA margins with 300 employees across the US and Cluj, Romania.

You'll learn:

  • Why Mike structured his entire $10M founder investment as debt instead of equity — and how it created a tax shield that paid him back on the way out
  • How the USGA handicapping contract in 2019 transformed Golf Genius from a niche club tool into the infrastructure layer of global golf
  • How Golf Genius went from $0 to $1M ARR in 8 years, then from $1M to $53M in the next 8 — and what the USGA relationship had to do with the inflection point
  • Why 50% of his 300-person team are engineers based in Cluj, Romania — and how that structural cost advantage funds 20% EBITDA while competitors burn cash
  • The exact three-phase acquisition strategy: legacy desktop customer rollups, league expansion, then B2C mobile apps with 8M+ users
  • How Mike negotiated the GolfShot acquisition — and why he forced their entire cap table behind a single LLC before closing
  • Why employees own 60% of the cap table at $53M ARR and how that drives 6-7% annual attrition across the entire company including Romania
  • What Mike would say if a PE firm offered $400M all cash today — and why he says he's more excited about what's next than he's been in years
  • Why he thinks AI will make SaaS companies radically more productive, not obsolete — from a founder whose doctoral thesis in 1977 was already on artificial intelligence
  • The rule of 40 reality at $53M ARR: why growth slows as companies scale and what Mike does to stay above the 10% industry average

Connect:
YouTube: youtube.com/@NathanLatkawatch
Golf Genius: golfgenius.com
Founderpath: founderpath.com

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