S3 E30 The Reluctant Apostate: In Conversation with Lloyd Evans

In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Wendy Baker, a former member of the Source Family and daughter-in-law to the leader, about her experiences growing up in the counterculture movement of the 1960s, her relationship with the charismatic leader Jim Baker, and her life in the Source Family commune. Wendy shares insights from her memoir, 'My Name Was Mushroom,' detailing her transition from a typical teenager to a member of a spiritual community, the dynamics of communal living, and the impact of their beliefs on their daily lives. The conversation explores themes of identity, spirituality, and the complexities of life within a cult-like environment. My Name Was Mushroom: My Life as a Teenage Runaway in The Source Family Commune: https://amzn.eu/d/hZgKSkxGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with author Beth Granger, a cult survivor and representative plaintiff in a landmark class action lawsuit against her abusers. Beth shares her experiences growing up in Grenville Christian College, a cult disguised as a school, and discusses the challenges of recovery and the importance of sharing stories of those born and raised in cults. The conversation delves into the impact of cult life on identity, the challenges of publishing a memoir, connections to the troubled teen industry, coercive control tactics, purity culture, family dynamics, and the journey of healing.Beth's Book: Amazon.com: Born and Razed : Surviving the Cult Was Only Half the Battle eBook : Granger, Beth: BooksGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Lloyd Evans, a former Jehovah's Witness and current activist, about his journey out of the organisation and the complexities of Jehovah's Witness beliefs. They discuss the history of the Jehovah's Witnesses, the impact of indoctrination on children, and the challenges faced by those who leave the faith, including rapture anxiety. Lloyd shares insights on how to support children from different belief systems and the importance of compassion and understanding. The discussion also touches on the dynamics within survivor communities and the importance of constructive dialogue in healing and understanding.Lloyd's Books, Websites and YouTube:The Reluctant Apostate: Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses Comes at a Price: https://amzn.eu/d/4BEY6JjHow to Escape From Jehovah's Witnesses: https://amzn.eu/d/g4gaJ9Gwww.jwwatch.orgwww.youtube.com/@LloydEvansGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode, Shannon Payton AKA Shanny Pants shares her journey of growing up in a high-control religious cult, her experiences navigating life outside of it, and the challenges of parenting while healing from past trauma. She discusses the impact of her upbringing on her identity, relationships, and mental health, as well as the importance of psychoeducation in her recovery process. In this conversation, Shanny Payton shares her journey of healing from trauma, navigating relationships post-cult, and the challenges of marriage and parenthood. She emphasises the importance of humor in her healing process and discusses the support she has found in her community. Shanny also reflects on her experiences with social media and the impact of negative comments, while offering wisdom for those recovering from trauma.Shanny's Show - ShannyPantsShowWebsiteGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Don Johnson, who shares his journey from being a follower of Prem Rawat to becoming an instructor within the suspected cult. Don discusses his initial attraction to the teachings, the experiences that led him deeper into the organisation, and the cognitive dissonance he faced as he began to question the integrity of his leader. He reflects on his eventual disengagement from the suspected cult, the healing process, and the importance of critical thinking. Don also offers advice for others who may be navigating similar experiences and emphasises the need for support and resources.Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Kari Bunn, a survivor of the troubled teen industry, specifically the CEDU reform school. They discuss the historical context of CEDU, its connections to the cult Synanon, and the broader troubled teen industry. Kari shares her experiences and insights into the psychological manipulation and abuse that can occur in these institutions, as well as the importance of raising awareness through media and survivor stories. The conversation also touches on the complexities of distinguishing between non-abusive and abusive schools, the impact of influential figures like Liam Scheff, and the ongoing struggle for survivors to find closure and advocate for change. In this conversation, Kari Bunn shares her personal experiences with troubled teen programs, particularly CEDU, and discusses the complexities of survivor narratives. She reflects on the impact of unrecognized pain and the importance of accountability in the troubled teen industry. Kari also talks about her documentary project, the challenges of engaging with the survivor community, and the need for a comprehensive understanding of the issues at hand. The conversation highlights the ongoing struggles of survivors and the importance of raising awareness about the troubled teen industry.Kari's other media appearances:Straight Outta BS Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=reIUF2VxmMk8A2ZU&v=bnpIgc2Qa9k&feature=youtu.beAnne L. Peterson's Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=ZAc4eXcxtDYG7n_p&v=Z1U3EHIh5po&feature=youtu.beKari's Website - http://www.cedudocumentary.com Get in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

*TRIGGER WARNING THIS EPISODE CONTAINS THEMES OF CHILD ABUSE. LISTEN WITH CAUTION!!!*In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Brenda Blais, who shares her harrowing experiences of childhood sexual abuse within the cult-like environment of the Students of Light. Brenda recounts her introduction to the group at a young age, the manipulative tactics employed by its leader, Don Kollmar, and the profound impact of the abuse on her life. The conversation delves into themes of control, isolation, and the resilience of the human spirit in the face of trauma.http://chasingenlightenment.netBrenda Blais (@riseupsurvivor) • Instagram photos and videosGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode of the Cult Vault Podcast, host Kacey speaks with Zacch Comfort, creator of the Boiled Frogs podcast, which explores the cult he grew up in. They discuss the origins of the cult, the abusive dynamics within it, and the impact on children raised in such an environment.Zacch shares personal stories about his family's involvement, the control exerted by the cult leader, and the harsh realities of life in the commune, including labor expectations and limited education. The conversation delves into the psychological manipulation and isolation tactics used to maintain control over members, as well as the long-lasting effects of such experiences.Boiled Frogs Podcast - Apple PodcastsGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Madison McGhee, the creator of the Ice Cold Case podcast, which investigates her father's unsolved murder. Madison shares her journey from a background in film and television to the world of podcasting, discussing the challenges and unique aspects of audio storytelling. The conversation delves into her upbringing in a religious environment, the complexities of family relationships, and the impact of community dynamics on crime and justice. Madison reflects on the ethical considerations of true crime storytelling, the importance of diverse narratives, and her personal coping mechanisms for dealing with trauma. Throughout the episode, she emphasises the need for community support and the ongoing quest for truth in her father's case.Ice Cold Case - Ice Cold CaseSnitch Ass Daddy (SAD) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KeWVsorNzEGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]

Anna has kindly gifted some free ebook versions of her book for UK listeners. Contact me if you are interested in receiving one!In this episode of the Cult Vault podcast, host Kacey speaks with Anna Sonoda, a licensed clinical social worker, about the critical issue of grooming and child sexual abuse. Anna shares her insights on how grooming is a precursor to most child sexual abuse cases and emphasises the importance of educating adults and children about recognizing grooming behaviors. The conversation explores the role of vulnerability in child exploitation, the parallels between grooming and cult dynamics, and the proactive measures parents and communities can take to protect children. Anna also discusses her book, 'Duck Duck Groom,' which aims to change the narrative around child sexual abuse and empower parents to be prepared rather than fearful.In this conversation, Anna discusses the importance of community awareness and open communication in preventing child sexual abuse. She emphasises the need for adults to be vigilant and proactive in recognising grooming behaviours and creating safe environments for children.The discussion also touches on the role of gender in perceptions of safety, the significance of family dynamics, and the collective responsibility of adults to protect vulnerable children. Anna shares strategies for fostering open dialogue within families and highlights the importance of community involvement in safeguarding children.Duck Duck Groom: Understanding How a Child Becomes a Target - https://amzn.eu/d/2sxTecwDuck Duck Groom Guided Journal: https://amzn.eu/d/2s4HvRiGet in Touch or Support: Patreon - patreon.com/thecultvaultCrimecon UK 2025 https://www.crimecon.co.uk - use code CULT for 10% off tickets!Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cultvaultpod/Twitter: https://twitter.com/CultVaultPodReddit: https://www.reddit.com/user/Cult-VaultGmail: [email protected]