Ep. 220: Eco-Spirituality in the 21st Century with Dana O'Driscoll

In this episode, AC & Isaac welcome natural healing practitioner and teacher Peter Jackson-Main to discuss Natural Healing, his background in the Dr. John Christopher lineage, founding The Natural Center in the UK, and his clinical approach using structured case-taking alongside tongue and pulse diagnosis and iridology. They focus on what detoxification is, why it matters in a toxic environment, and how he supports organ-by-organ elimination (bowel, kidney, liver, lymph), including a gentler polarity-based liver flush using apple juice, lemon, garlic, ginger, olive oil, and a dandelion-root detox tea, plus seasonal timing in spring and autumn. Peter contrasts herbs with supplements, emphasizes patient commitment in chronic illness, and shares views on fasting as spiritual and physical medicine. He previews his forthcoming book The Medicine of Plants on ecology, exchange with plants, and plant intelligence, and shares favorite allies like astragalus, burdock, nettle, artemisia, and horsetail.00:00 Podcast Welcome00:34 Guest Intro and Announcements03:01 Defining Natural Healing04:29 Origin Story and Training08:33 Building the Natural Centre10:25 Herbal Preparations and Teas12:51 Clinical Intake and Intuition20:56 Detox Basics and Rationale23:58 Organ by Organ Detox Strategy28:41 Liver Flush Protocol34:55 Seasonal Detox and Herb Choices36:16 Warming Detox Tea37:25 Fasting Basics and Benefits40:17 Fasting as Whole-Being Practice41:17 Handling Chronic Illness Cases46:01 Eclectic Herbal Lineage47:50 Rethinking Research and Reality51:45 Supplements Versus Living Herbs55:00 Plant Allies and Local Substitutes58:47 New Book The Medicine of Plants01:04:44 Closing and Where to Find Him

Find out all about Olga and her Greece trips at Smugtown MushroomsAC and Isaac welcome returning guest Olga Tzogas of Smugtown Mushrooms, calling in from California where she’s teaching frequent classes, connecting with mushroom and herbal communities, and harvesting no-spray citrus for an east-coast fruit share. They discuss shifts in mushroom education interest, regional and international mushroom diversity tied to trees and rainfall, and favorite Greece finds like shaggy parasols and almond-scented wild Agaricus, plus simple grilling methods with olive oil, oregano, and lemon. Olga explains truffles—trees they associate with, how quickly they can be found with trained dogs, why prices are high, preservation challenges, and ways to use them. Olga shares details on her Greece trips in May and October (including truffle hunting, medicine making, hydrosols, dyes, and food), early bird timing, and mentions the upcoming New Moon Mycology Summit in September.00:00 Podcast Welcome00:33 Guest Intro and Teasers01:50 Greece Trip Announcement03:33 Olga in California06:55 Teaching on the Road08:27 Mushroom Trend Talk10:09 Foraging Origins and Fungi Magic11:48 California Mushroom Season14:00 Mushrooms Around the World18:49 Greece Mushroom Favorites22:23 Citrus Share and Bitters25:51 Peels Oxymels and Aronia31:04 Sea Buckthorn and Ojas36:16 Thorns Hawthorn and Cornelian Cherry37:52 Wild Fruit and Wood38:47 Truffles and Host Trees39:46 Cultivating Truffles Fast41:30 Training Truffle Dogs43:24 Truffle Prices and Shelf Life44:43 Preserving Truffle Aroma47:09 Cooking With Truffles50:13 Greece Foraging Trips56:28 Trip Dates and Lodging01:00:15 Workshops and Slow Travel01:07:20 Why Greece Feels Free01:12:28 New Moon Summit Update01:16:35 Early Bird and Giving Back01:18:39 Final Thanks and Farewell

Find Dana at The Druid's Garden: Spirit Journeys in Healing the Land, Permaculture, Sustainable Living, and Creative ArtsFind out more about the Plant Cunning Conference at Plant Cunning Conference – Save the date – July 24-26, 2026Book a Vedic astrology reading with Isaac by emailing him at [email protected] and Isaac welcome back Dana O’Driscoll—Grand Archdruid of Ancient Order of Druids in America, co-director and founder of the Pennsylvania School of Herbalism, author, artist, and creator of the Druid’s Garden blog—to discuss her new book, "Eco Spirituality in the 21st Century," co-authored with Nate Summers. They talk about the book as a practical roadmap for difficult times, rooted in nature spirituality and community, and built around seven themes: reconnection, respect, rewilding, regeneration, resilience, re-enchantment, and revisioning. Dana explains how she and Nate collaborated (long conversations to develop the framework, then dividing chapters by strengths), how the book uses a Druid-inspired structure (Bard/ovate/druid as community/creative practice, nature-based practice, and cosmology/magical theory), and why storytelling and visioning are central as acts of magic that shape reality. The conversation explores animism and agency in the natural world, the role of gratitude and offerings in reciprocal relationships with land and plants, the need to pair magical work with practical action, and the importance of rebuilding local, in-person community through shared meals, fires, mutual aid, and tool shares as larger systems strain. Dana also shares details on upcoming events (Plant Cunning Conference July 24–26 in central New York; Hawthorn Botanical Gathering in June) and where to find her work, including the book via major booksellers, her site (thedruidsgarden.com), and the Pennsylvania School of Herbalism (paherbschool.com).01:10 Conference and Support Updates02:32 Seasonal Check In03:20 Why This Book Now08:01 Co Writing the Book11:34 Meeting Nate and Shared Druidry15:17 Seven Rs Framework22:18 Storytelling as Magic28:19 Agency Action and Enchantment33:52 Stories Shape Reality34:13 Deprogramming Cultural Beliefs35:28 Seven Rs Roadmap38:44 Enchantment Without Overload42:25 Respect Through Animism44:29 Offerings and Deep Gratitude52:15 Reindigenizing Daily Life54:09 Rebuilding Local Community59:01 Herb School and Book Links01:02:43 Final Thanks and Wrap

AC and Isaac welcome John Michael Greer back to the Plant Cunning Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation on mundane astrology and the Saturn–Neptune conjunction at 0° Aries on February 20. Greer explains mundane astrology as astrology applied to world events, emphasizing traditional tools like ingress charts for solstices and equinoxes, eclipse charts, and great conjunctions, and describing astrology as an empirical craft built from long historical observation. The episode explores why 0° Aries functions as a zodiac “reset button,” why Saturn (form, limits, structure) combining with Neptune (dissolution, unity, imagination, delusion) suggests major shifts. They discuss competing ways of timing the Age of Aquarius, including the 2020 Jupiter–Saturn conjunction in Aquarius as a possible “dawn” marker, and critique utopian 1960s portrayals of Aquarius, noting traditional rulership by Saturn and the difficult, disruptive qualities associated with Uranus (and Rahu as co-ruler in Vedic astrology). Greer ties Uranus-in-Gemini cycles to U.S. history and “elite replacement” periods, framing current politics as another transition that may include bureaucratic contraction and social conflict without necessarily implying “the end of everything.” Additional themes include long-term decline versus sudden collapse, climate volatility, ice-sheet destabilization, karmic causality as “action and consequence” rather than retribution, and esoteric ideas like Dion Fortune’s “initiation of the nadir” as a potential collective turning point amid peak global population. 02:53 Mundane Astrology101: The Oldest Branch of Astrology & How It Works04:26 Tools of Mundane Astrology: Ingresses, Eclipses, and Great Conjunctions06:29 Why 0° Aries Matters: The Zodiac ‘Reset Button’08:27 Saturn Meets Neptune: Form vs Dissolution—and Why This One’s Unprecedented11:50 Axial Age Echoes: Religion, Philosophy, and What Might Change Next15:50 Age of Aquarius: Uranus Energy, Myths of Utopia, and Saturn’s Reality Check21:07 Tech, AI, and Civilizational Fragility26:25 When Did the Age of Aquarius Begin?5:26 Wheels Within Wheels: Stacking Cycles and What We’ll Notice in Our Lifetimes36:42 Historical Parallel: Early Democracy, and How Big Shifts Start Small37:56 Athens’ Democratic Experiment & the Rise of a Cultural Powerhouse38:36 Thales and the Birth of Philosophy: Reason Replaces Myth39:34 Where the Next Breakthrough Comes From: Fringe Ideas That ‘Work’41:07 Screens, AI, and a Return to Being Human (in a New Way)42:46 The Star of Bethlehem, Magi as Magicians, and Modern ‘Messiah’ Speculation44:37 Aquarius vs Pisces: Why We Can’t Imagine a Truly New Age45:11 Reading Dead People: Ancient Epics as a Portal to Other Mindsets46:20 Kali Yuga vs Satya Yuga: Are We in the Spiritual Winter?48:43 26,000-Year Cycles, Ancient Dread, and ‘This Is as Bad as It Gets’52:33 Saturn’s Lesson: Endure, Do Your Dharma, and Get to Work54:34 Initiation of the Nadir: Hitting Rock Bottom and Rounding the Buoy58:48 Uranus in Gemini & America’s Elite Replacement Cycles (Revolution–Civil War–WWII)01:05:43 Mundane Astrology Methods: Updating Planetary Meanings for the Modern World01:09:06 Mars vs Mercury Masculinity—and What a Future Dark Age Might Look Like01:13:20 Post-Collapse Cities in ‘Star’s Reach’: A Byzantine-Style Future01:14:06 What Determines the Shape of a Dark Age? Printing, Farming, and Resilient Tech01:15:33 Amish & Appropriate Tech: Keeping Urban Life Alive After Collapse01:18:30 Collapse as Slow ‘Ragged Decline’: Gas Prices, Frogs, and the Long Slide01:21:48 Punctuated Shocks: Lockdowns, 9/11, and Climate Tipping Points01:24:05 Astrology as a Tactical Tool: Daily Transits, Timing, and Better Decisions01:29:29 Intuition, Past Lives, and Skill Carryover: From Mozart to Tarot01:33:33 Karma Explained: Action, Consequences, and What Charts Can Reveal01:37:03 Remedies & Magic: Planetary Charity, Talismans, and Natal Chart Mandalas

In this episode of the Plant Cunning Podcast, hosts AC and Isaac Hill are joined by Amelia South, known as "the No BS Herbalist." Amelia shares her journey into the world of plants and natural healing, inspired by the birth of her daughter and her early experiences with herbs. She delves into her practical approach to herbalism, emphasizing the importance of understanding the root causes of health issues, rather than just addressing symptoms with herbs. Amelia introduces her latest book, 'Think Like an Herbalist,' a practical guide aimed at those looking to deepen their understanding of herbalism and natural health practices without becoming professional herbalists. The conversation also touches on her upcoming book focused on mental health and subconscious healing, and the importance of mental wellbeing for both practitioners and clients. Tune in for a rich discussion on plant wisdom, personal healing journeys, and the intersection of physical, mental, and emotional health.00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast00:34 Meet Amelia South: The No BS Herbalist03:38 Amelia's Journey into Herbalism06:45 Teaching and Foraging Adventures12:24 Amelia's Cookbook and Bone Broth Tips33:10 Healing the Gut: Cabbage and Beyond40:10 Understanding the Root of Addiction41:23 The Role of the Subconscious Mind in Healing43:28 Client Consultations and Setting Boundaries44:29 The Importance of Willingness in Healing47:09 Addressing Deep-Seated Beliefs49:18 The Challenge of Helping Others01:07:28 Balancing Personal and Professional Life01:14:19 Streamlining Communication and Services01:17:48 Future Plans and Final Thoughts

In this episode, co-hosts Isaac and AC Hill sit down with Jamie Paul Lamb, a distinguished astrologer, magician, and author. Jamie dives deep into his new book, 'The Astrological Goetia,' which examines the ancient method of dividing the zodiac into five-degree sections known as the Quinaries. Together, they explore how this system brings a fascinating blend of traditional astrology and astrological magic to the forefront. Discover the historical and mystical roots of the Quinaria, delve into the attributes of angelic and demonic spirits associated with these divisions, and uncover the intricacies of chart delineation using this lesser-known technique. Whether you're an astrology enthusiast or a seasoned practitioner, this episode offers unique insights into the intersection of astrology, magic, and the platonic worldview. 00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast00:34 Guest Introduction: Jamie Paul Lamb01:48 Astrological Insights and Book Discussion04:34 Journey into Astrology and Magic11:09 Historical Figures and Esoteric Traditions17:20 Divisional Charts and Spiritual Entities, Devatas, Angels and Demons41:25 Astrological Rectifyication Techniques41:45 Exploring Profections and Dashas, and other Timing Techniques45:34 Western vs. Vedic Astrology Approaches56:33 Astrological Remediation and Talismans01:03:41 Philosophical Insights and Conclusion

In this episode, hosts AC and Isaac Hill welcome Brigit Anna McNeil. Bridget, a writer, eco psychotherapist, and herbalist, shares insights from her newly released book 'The Wild Within.' We explore her personal journey influenced by two incredible grandmothers, the importance of seasonal cycles, and the significance of telling and retelling stories that connect us back to nature. Additionally, Bridget discusses her beliefs on rewilding and how creative practices and rituals can be tools for personal transformation. Don't miss this thought-provoking episode that bridges the gap between the natural world and our inner selves.00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction01:44 Brigit's Journey to Herbalism06:45 Influential Teachers and Mentors07:55 The Concept of 'The Wild Within'09:25 Cultural Perceptions of Wildness18:46 Rewilding and Connection to Nature27:31 Seasonal Cycles and Beginnings37:24 Rituals and Personal Growth40:03 Winter Herbal Allies42:08 The Enigmatic Yew Tree46:15 Eco-Psychotherapy Explained50:48 The Healing Power of Creativity01:03:05 Imagination and Inner Child01:09:22 Imbolc Traditions and Reflections01:11:17 Conclusion

In this episode, we welcome Akiva Silver of Twisted Tree Farm. Our discussion wanders into the creation of lotus ponds, the selective use of nitrogen-fixing plants, and the importance of "hardening off" in the North. Akiva shares his journey from wilderness survival enthusiast to professional nurseryman, emphasizing the importance of having a 'conversation with the land.' He also touches on the philosophy behind his work, the benefits of diverse plantings, and the practicalities of building DIY ponds. Akiva's insightful perspective on managing land and fostering biodiversity is a must-listen for anyone interested in sustainable farming practices.00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast01:06 Upcoming Events and Announcements02:00 Akiva Silver's Journey and Philosophy03:12 The Art of Working with Land07:27 Planting Strategies and Observations15:34 Exploring Akiva's Farm and Plant Varieties22:11 Challenges and Learnings in Permaculture30:21 Balancing Experiments and Resilient Plants31:01 The Resilience and Early Production of Hazelnuts31:36 Chestnuts: A Versatile and Historical Nut35:36 Managing Abundance and Wildlife on the Farm37:59 Building and Maintaining Ponds Yourself39:53 The Benefits of Ponds for Wildlife and Recreation41:20 Specializing Ponds for Different Uses44:12 Renting Equipment and DIY Pond Construction48:38 The Importance of Taking Action and Learning by Doing49:47 Current Projects and Inspirations50:37 Books and Philosophies on Nature and Life53:14 Reflections on Modern Challenges and Resilience55:37 Conclusion and Farewell

In this episode we are joined by the esteemed astrologer, teacher, and author, Stormie Grace. We discuss everything from Stormie's personal journey into astrology at a young age, her career transition from radio to YouTube, and her unique approach to reading charts. Stormie elaborates on how she incorporates the natal and progressed lunar phases, the significance of the nodal story, and the intricate dance of the sun and the moon to guide her astrological readings. Stormie also talks about the challenges and opportunities in the YouTube astrology space, and the process and insights behind her new book on aspects. Tune in to hear Stormie's inspiring story and her wisdom on growing through life's cosmic cycles.00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast00:31 Meet Stormie Grace: Astrologer and Teacher01:32 Stormie's Journey into Astrology04:01 The Saturn Return: A Turning Point11:31 Stormie's Transition to YouTube20:14 Astrology Techniques and Insights22:34 Understanding Moon Phases in Astrology31:02 Introduction to Nodes in Astrology31:41 Understanding the South Node32:17 Balancing the North and South Nodes34:44 Nodes in Different Signs and Degrees37:14 The Role of Houses and Planets39:16 Lunar Phases and Life Seasons43:37 Winter Seasons and Personal Growth47:16 New Book on Aspects in Astrology47:32 Astrology as a Language49:38 Practical Applications of Aspects53:04 Writing the Book and Future Research58:30 Conclusion and Where to Find More

In this episode, hosts AC and Isaac Hill sit down with herbalist Kyle Denton. Kyle shares his journey from a bike accident to becoming an herbalist and teacher, diving deep into his passion for astrological herbalism and biofield tuning. Discover the story behind Kyle's herb shop, Tippecanoe Herbs, and its evolution from a farmer's market stall to a comprehensive healing space with a kitchen, cafe, and herbal clinic. Kyle also explains his unique approach to bio terrain vitalism and holistic health, incorporating the elements of nature with modern herbal practice. This episode is a treasure trove of insights for anyone interested in plant-based healing, natural medicine, and the intricate relationships between plants, astrology, and our biofields.00:00 Introduction to the Plant Cunning Podcast00:31 Meet Kyle Denton: Herbalist and Teacher01:14 The Journey of Tippecanoe Herbs01:58 Herbal Shop and Community Space04:32 The Connection Between Alcohol and Herbs06:15 Kyle's Path to Herbalism11:14 Ayurveda and Western Herbalism14:13 Understanding Bio Terrain Vitalism20:09 Exploring Biofield Tuning31:05 The Power of Naming Plants31:42 Biofield Tuning Techniques33:28 Integrating Healing with Herbs40:44 Astrology and Herbalism42:38 Aromatic Astrology and Incense Making49:21 The Role of Myths in Healing01:02:29 Concluding Thoughts and Resources