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Season 8, Episode 19: Dr Kate Lister – Favourite Fragrances and Scented Scandals

22.10.2026
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We couldn’t do better than quote our brilliant guest Dr Kate Lister’s own bulging

bio: ‘a history sleuth with a passion for uncovering the wild tales of the past. You

might know me from my bestselling books, “A Curious History of Sex” and

“Harlots, Whores, and Hackabouts: A History of Sex for Sale,” where I spill the

tea on our ancestors’ sex lives.’ When she’s not ‘deep-diving into historical

hanky-panky’, Kate hosts the award-winning History Hit podcast, Betwixt the

Sheets, where she and her guests (including an episode with Suzy on historical

fragrances) ‘time-travel through the sauciest and most scandalous stories in

history.’

But there’s something else that Kate’s become passionate about – other than her

eternal quest for the best red lipstick in the world – which makes us love her

even more... In this episode we delve deeper into Kate’s burgeoning olfactory

obsession, which she fully admits was Suzy’s fault, as Kate purchased the

perfumes Suzy spoke about when she was a Betwixt guest – and as we all know,

it’s a slippery scented slope from there.

You can listen to that episode here: https://shows.acast.com/betwixt-the-

sheets/episodes/cleopatra-to-jane-austen-perfumes-of-powerful-women

From Kate’s early experiments with perfumes she and her peers dabbed and

dabbled with in their youth, through to expressing her personality, and finding

fragrances she’s now fallen madly in love with; of course, our conversations took

an historical turn. Among our discussions: what people in the past actually

smelled like (did they stink, as many people assume?), the cultural controls over

what women were supposed to smell of, why we have a deep longing to smell

like forest witches, and a disturbing revelation of how and why Lysol was first

marketed to women.

We think you’ll agree that Kate was an utterly fascinating guest, and we’re

determined to get her back for a Part Two! (Once she’s tried even more of the

fragrance recommendations Suzy is going to send her. Sorry in advance, Kate...

Dr Kate Lister’s Fragrance List:

Body shop Dewberry

Calvin Klein CK Be

Gap Grass (the original)

Gap Heaven (the original)

Rook Forest

Histoire de parfum Encens Roi

Histoire de Parfum 1968

Wales Perfumery Celtic Perfume Discovery Set

Le Labo Santal 33

Stora Skuggan Sylphium

Suzy suggested: Andrea Maack Coven (and has a whole list of other suggestions

to send Kate)

Kate’s favourite novel: Perfume: Story of a Murderer by Patrick Süskind

Suzy also suggested Kate read Smells: A Culturial History of Odours in Early

Modern Times by Robert Muchembled

And Suzy also insisted that Kate (and anyone equally fascinated by the science

and history of our sense of smell) attend next year’s IFRA Fragrance Forum,

which you can find out more about in a forthcoming blog feature at

https://www.onthescentmedia.com/

You can watch videos of previous IFRA lectures on their website:

https://www.ifrauk.org/fragrance-forum-2025

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